From: Kevin Cauley (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Thu Mar 28 2002 - 10:28:14 EST
So it is. Yes. My mistake. Thanks for the correction, Steven.
I do, however, have lingering questions about the two words for the list.
If there are no referents, what does "Comparing spiritual to spiritual"
mean? Spiritual what? Why the plural? Why neuter?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Lo Vullo [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:02 AM
> To: Biblical Greek
> Subject: [b-greek] Re: 1 Corinthians 2:13,14
> on 3/27/02 11:42 PM, Kevin Cauley at firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> > So you would understand PNEUMATIKOIS as being in the neuter gender?
> > Assuming this is the case, then why the change from a neuter
> singular to a
> > neuter plural? "Comparing a spiritual thing to spiritual things" (?).
> > Maybe I am not understanding something, but this doesn't make a
> lot of sense
> > to me.
> Both substantival adjectives are plural. PNEUMATIKA is neuter plural
> accusative. PNEUMATIKOIS may be either neuter plural dative or masculine
> plural dative.
> Steven Lo Vullo
> Madison, WI
> > Thank you,
> > Kevin Cauley
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Polycarp66@aol.com [mailto:Polycarp66@aol.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 10:12 PM
> > To: Biblical Greek
> > Subject: [b-greek] Re: 1 Corinthians 2:13,14
> > In a message dated 3/27/2002 10:03:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > email@example.com writes:
> > hA KAI LALOUMEN OUK EN DIDAKTOIS ANQRWPINHS SOFIAS LOGOIS ALL
> > EN DIDAKTOIS
> > PNEUMATOS hAGIOU PNEUMATIKOIS PNEUMATIKA SUGKRINONTES YUCIKOS
> DE ANQPWPOS
> > .
> > . .
> > Does the adjective PNEUMATIKOIS refer back to the noun LOGOIS or to a
> > non-stated noun ANQPRWPOIS as possibly alluded to in the context? Or is
> > PNEUMATIKOIS functioning in some other way not mentioned? I am inclined
> > to
> > think that it is referring to LOGOIS, but I would like to hear the
> > evidence
> > for other opinions here.
> > _______________________
> > Neither. I'm trying to think of a comparison. Suppose I were to say
> > "We speak regarding music to the musical - comparing baroque to
> > It's perhaps not a very good comparison - sorry. Maybe it will
> > nevertheless convey the structure of the passage. PNEUMATIKA
> is the direct
> > object of the participle SUGKRINONTES and PNEUMATIKOIS are the
> things with
> > which they are SUGKRINONTES. Think of "comparing apples to
> apples" (or if
> > you wish to use Platonic terms "appleness"). The
> **participle**, however,
> > is nom. pl. which would therefore reflect the action of the subject
> > (included in LALOUMEN).
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