>> >> John 3:3 - GENNHQH ANWQEV - commonly translated "born again," but >> sometimes >> "born from above." It looks to me like "born from above" retaing the >> meaning >> of the root and is "more full equivalent" of ANWQEV, but I am puzzled >> by >> Nicodemus' response. Why would "born from above" make him think a >> person >> would have to enter a second time into his mother's womb? I suspect >> this is >> why "born again" is a popular translation of this word, but is that >> what the >> word is really saying? If your answer is theological, I would >> appreciate your >> thought's off line, but my question for the GREEKS is, am I missing >> something >> in the word "ANWQEN" that would imply repetition? Or am I hearing >> something >> that isn't there when I hear "born from above?" >> >> William Boyd (The little bitty Greek) >> Royal Palm Beach, Florida >> In each of these places John uses ANWTHEN to mean "from above" or "from top to bottom" GenevaJoh 3:31Geneva, Joh 19:11, Joh 19:23 Every other NT usage seems to be a directional usage as well, Luke's usage in Luke1:3 is very interesting. There are some relevant usages of ANWTHEN in the LXX in the phrases OURANOU ANWTHEN Ge 27:39OLB_Greek , GenevaGe 49:25OLB_Greek, GenevaIsa 45:8OLB_Greek, GenevaJer 4:28OLB_Greek and Job 3:4; hO KYRIOS ANWTHEN and in Ezekial 1:26; ANTHROPOU ANWTHEN. The LXX also contains more mundane directional usages as well. I don't have any classical or koine contemporary usages at my disposal, but the LXX and NT usage does not seem to have a clear contextual usage of 'again'. Does anyone know of any other instances that ANWTHEN could contextually be translated 'again'? Steve ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Long president Allegro Graphics, Inc., Allegro Digital Media, Inc. 4132 Industrial Drive, Saint Peters, Missouri 63376 1-888-819-8166 toll-free steve@websrv.com, steve@allegrographics.com http://www.websrv.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- b-greek home page: http://sunsite.unc.edu/bgreek To post a message to the list, mailto:b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu To subscribe, mailto:subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu To unsubscribe, mailto:unsubscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu?subject=[cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu]