From masonjd@y12.doe.gov Fri May 25 08:30:37 2007 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 11:28:04 -0400 From: "Mason, James David (MXM)" Subject: RE: Proposal for the Location of the 2-day Face-to-Face meeting In-reply-to: <003701c79d82$485d93b0$d918bb10$@com> To: Rex Jaeschke , jon.bosak@sun.com, patrick@durusau.net, dave.welsh@microsoft.com, Doug.Mahugh@microsoft.com, frank@farance.com, jerry.smith@disa.mil, Leonard.Levine@disa.mil, ndw@nwalsh.com, lprice@txstruct.com, Richard.Barber@mindjet.com, robert_weir@us.ibm.com, steve.carton@retrievalsystems.com, timothy@schoechle.org, ktrainor@ligent.net X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Thread-topic: Proposal for the Location of the 2-day Face-to-Face meeting Thread-index: AcedYUBU7mrx+Wg2Th2y1XiaB6NaYQAG1gIwAFh+j4A= X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 May 2007 15:28:07.0211 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B560FB0:01C79EE1] I've been in V1 since the committee was founded, so I've seen plenty of contentious issues. (When I was Secretary of the committee, I even had a case when two members objected to being mentioned in the same paragraph of the minutes.) As for a home-court advantage, so far as I'm concerned, there ain't no such animal. Even in the extremes of contention, parties to the argument took their turns at hosting meetings. We've been all over the place: IBM hosted in Dallas, Austin, and Boulder; Xerox in El Segundo; Adobe in Los Gatos. Most meetings were hosted in hotels or conference facilities; few hosts had room for the 40 to 50 people who attended in the old days. A few were held at the host's site, particularly at NIST. I've hosted a few meetings on-site here in Oak Ridge, but I can't do that since 9/11 (though my wife offers to let you meet in the dungeon at home). As I've observed recently, V1 has a history of being open about its meetings. And hosts have often taken advantage of proximity to their facilities to send more observers to sit in on discussions. But extra participants have generally had the courtesy to be observers and not attempt to overwhelm the discussion. The chairman always has the option of ejecting troublemakers. So I don't think it matters where the committee meets, so long as the group agrees to a place. Pick a place, any place you can get to. (For the record, it doesn't matter to me where the meeting is because family business prevents my attending in the proposed time frame, unless it's in my dungeon.) Jim Mason