From owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org Tue Jun 12 09:05:03 2007 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_SsGJ9QbBgjGKQ5DPrpBelw)" Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:04:45 -0400 From: robert_weir@us.ibm.com Subject: RE: INCITS-V1: Discussing comments In-reply-to: <00f501c7ad06$3dbacd90$b93068b0$@com> Sender: owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org To: incits-v1@incits-v1.org Reply-to: incits-v1@incits-v1.org X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WTFMAIL03/WTF/M/Lotus(Release 6.5.6FP1|April 24, 2007) at 06/12/2007 12:04:48 PM, Serialize complete at 06/12/2007 12:04:48 PM X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_SsGJ9QbBgjGKQ5DPrpBelw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'd just note that at the previous call we were able to process around 40 technical comments in 2 1/2 hours, and in this last call were barely able to process 2, and along the way had some lengthy discussions about whether we should word a request as, "We request that Ecma do..." versus "Ecma should please consider...". So when we compare our accomplishment in the last meeting with the level of technical review being accomplished by the BSI, I think yes, we should be embarrassed. We're not effectively performing our TAG duties for INCITS or JTC1. That's my opinion. I'll reply in more detail to your concerns, Stephen, in an email. Regards, -Rob ___________________________ Rob Weir Software Architect Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software IBM Software Group email: robert_weir@us.ibm.com phone: 1-978-399-7122 blog: http://www.robweir.com/blog/ owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org wrote on 06/12/2007 11:27:49 AM: > Hi Team... > > I'm very happy to be a part of the committee; I worked at Lotus and teamed > up with IBM And Sun to contribute to the architecture and standardization of > certain aspects of Java. PDF, ODF and OOXML represent a very powerful set of > standards for the US, and I am glad to be here to contribute. This time > spent is a sacrifice of our personal time and effort for each of us... > > Speaking of which, I noticed the following comment out in the blog sphere: > "I think we in the US should be ashamed at the stonewalling going on in V1" > (pasted from > http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/06/hemidemisemiquavers.html#links). > > Does everyone agree that we should be ashamed of our contribution yesterday? > > I realize this was my first meeting, but I was impressed with the level of > insight shared from each differing opinion and thought we made great > progress. I also agree with Patrick's suggestion to "make better use of this > reflector to discuss the various comments before we get into meetings, > thereby speeding up our consideration of each comment." > > I look forward to offering my contribution to make the USA proud of our > contribution! > > Have an awesome day! > > Cheers, > -Stephen > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org [mailto:owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org] > On Behalf Of Mason, James David (MXM) > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:24 AM > To: incits-v1@incits-v1.org > Subject: RE: INCITS-V1: Discussing comments > > Sorry I had to drop out before the end, but the guys who pay the bills > were hollering for me from across the hall. > > Jim > > > --Boundary_(ID_SsGJ9QbBgjGKQ5DPrpBelw) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
I'd just note that at the previous call we were able to process around 40 technical comments in 2 1/2 hours, and in this last call were barely able to process 2, and along the way had some lengthy discussions about whether we should word a request as, "We request that Ecma do..." versus "Ecma should please consider...".  

So when we compare our accomplishment in the last meeting with the level of technical review being accomplished by the BSI, I think yes, we should be embarrassed.  We're not effectively performing our TAG duties for INCITS or JTC1.  That's my opinion.

I'll reply in more detail to your concerns, Stephen, in an email.

Regards,


-Rob

___________________________

Rob Weir
Software Architect
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Software Group

email: robert_weir@us.ibm.com
phone: 1-978-399-7122
blog: http://www.robweir.com/blog/


owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org wrote on 06/12/2007 11:27:49 AM:

> Hi Team...
>
> I'm very happy to be a part of the committee; I worked at Lotus and teamed
> up with IBM And Sun to contribute to the architecture and standardization of
> certain aspects of Java. PDF, ODF and OOXML represent a very powerful set of
> standards for the US, and I am glad to be here to contribute. This time
> spent is a sacrifice of our personal time and effort for each of us...
>
> Speaking of which, I noticed the following comment out in the blog sphere:
> "I think we in the US should be ashamed at the stonewalling going on in V1"
> (pasted from
> http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/06/hemidemisemiquavers.html#links).
>
> Does everyone agree that we should be ashamed of our contribution yesterday?
>
> I realize this was my first meeting, but I was impressed with the level of
> insight shared from each differing opinion and thought we made great
> progress. I also agree with Patrick's suggestion to "make better use of this
> reflector to discuss the various comments before we get into meetings,
> thereby speeding up our consideration of each comment."
>
> I look forward to offering my contribution to make the USA proud of our
> contribution!
>
> Have an awesome day!
>
> Cheers,
> -Stephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org [mailto:owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org]
> On Behalf Of Mason, James David (MXM)
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:24 AM
> To: incits-v1@incits-v1.org
> Subject: RE: INCITS-V1: Discussing comments
>
> Sorry I had to drop out before the end, but the guys who pay the bills
> were hollering for me from across the hall.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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