From owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org Mon Jul 16 09:47:26 2007 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 09:44:21 -0700 From: Doug Mahugh Subject: RE: INCITS-V1: Conditional approval (disapproval with comments) In-reply-to: <200707161513.l6GFDxl0437298@jurassic-x4600.sfbay.sun.com> Sender: owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org To: "incits-v1@incits-v1.org" Reply-to: incits-v1@incits-v1.org X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by midtown.nycx.com id l6GGjEfN029723 Content-language: en-US Accept-Language: en-US Thread-topic: INCITS-V1: Conditional approval (disapproval with comments) Thread-index: AcfHvANkZGq1p6IbR7az2EXQJD3WWAADFdDQ acceptlanguage: en-US X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.264296 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Regarding Stephen and Jon's requests for corrections to the minutes, it would be useful for us all to have an understanding of what types of corrections are appropriate. Patrick, is that something you can provide? Regards, Doug -----Original Message----- From: owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org [mailto:owner-incits-v1@incits-v1.org] On Behalf Of jon.bosak@sun.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 8:14 AM To: incits-v1@incits-v1.org Subject: INCITS-V1: Conditional approval (disapproval with comments) Correction to the minutes of 13 July 2007: Sun Microsystems specifically requested several times during the meeting that the option recorded in the draft minutes as "Disapproval with comments" be recorded as "Conditional approval (disapproval with comments)." We observed that the language of 9.8 in the JTC1 Directives explicitly equates these two forms. That request was accepted with no objection. This change is important to Sun in ensuring that our position is correctly represented. We wish to make it completely clear that we support DIS 29500 becoming an ISO Standard and are in complete agreement with its stated purposes of enabling interoperability among different implementations and providing interoperable access to the legacy of Microsoft Office documents. Sun voted No on Approval because it is our expert finding, based on the analysis so far accomplished in V1, that DIS 29500 as presently written is technically incapable of achieving those goals, not because we disagree with the goals or are opposed to an ISO Standard that would enable them. Sun voted Yes on Conditional approval (disapproval with comments) because this is the only one of the options we were given that would guarantee that the specific changes already agreed upon by consensus in V1 would actually be implemented. We observed during the meeting that according to 9.8, the option sometimes described as "No with comments" actually contains an explicit promise of approval once "the changes that would make the document acceptable" have been implemented. We voted in the expectation that those changes will be made and that a version of DIS 29500 capable of achieving its objectives would be approved as an ISO Standard. We welcome the opportunity to work with others during the resolution phase to bring DIS 29500 to a level of specification that would enable its approval, and we request that our vote for conditional approval be correctly represented in the minutes. Jon ====================================================== Jon Bosak, Distinguished Engineer, Corporate Standards Office of Global Government Strategy, Sun Microsystems Chair, Universal Business Language Technical Committee Member, INCITS V1 and ISO/IEC JTC1 SC34 jon.bosak@sun.com http://www.sun.com/standards ======================================================