Subject: [compost_tea] Re: flowforms

From: "Steve Diver" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:43:31 -0000

Hi -

A previous post found my "Vibrational Water" resource
list on the National Water Center's web page.  

http://www.nationalwatercenter.org/vibrational_water.htm

NWC is a grass-roots non-profit organization with
volunteer staff.  NWC has advocated ecological
water treatment, rainwater harvesting, and water
quality issues for over two decades (e.g., composting 
toilets, constructed wetlands, flow forms, permaculture,
bioregional to international delivery, etc.) 
It is located in nearby Eureka Springs, AR, where
I also volunteer my time to support bioregional
water issues. NWC puts on a few workshop each year,
publishes, and takes a Zen approach to web delivery
and water themes as an alternative to activist 
burn-out typical of the 1970s and 80s era.

The resource list is also on my farmstead home
page, with a format you may find easier to read. 

Vibrational Water 
http://www.ipa.net/~steved/vibrational-water.html

In the resource list you can access the books
by Viktor Schauberger and Theodore Schwenk, you
can see water quality images based on qualitative 
assessment techniques -- following energization
treatments, etc. 

Perhaps that is sufficient.  You can explore
this topic yourself.  Get the books "Living Water" 
by Olaf Alexandersson and "Living Energy" by 
Callum Coats for a fascinating in-depth review
of Viktor Schauberger's work.  John Wilkes, inventor
of flow forms, drew inspiration from Theodore 
Schwenk's work.  

When you add up all the different concepts and practices 
with vibrational water, you can better understand why 
I suggest there is room for exploration integrating 
water quality treatments with compost teas in 
relation to the microbial environment in an aqueous 
solution. 

Can you share if your name is David Loring or 
Dave Sotilo 50... and what your farming and 
gardening involvement is, to get a quick idea
what scale and cropping systems you're working with. 

Steve Diver
Fayetteville, AR

Agriculural specialist with ATTRA; gardener on 
quarter acre, 12 acre farmstead.   

P.S. There is an excellent book on Goethe, actually
a collection of essays exploring his ideas on nature
and phenomenology, with a chapter on John Wilkes and 
flow forms.

Chap. 10. Flowforms and the Language of Water 
by Mark Riegner & John Wilkes
In:
Goethe's Way of Science: A Phenomenology of Nature
David Seamon & Arthur Zajonc, Editors
Albany, NY: State University of New York Press, 1998

Excerpt from:

Goethe, Nature, and Phenomenology (Introduction to Book)
By David Seamon
http://www.arch.ksu.edu/seamon/book%20chapters/goethe_intro.htm
 
"In the last essay of Part II, Mark Riegner and sculptor 
John Wilkes present Wilkes' efforts to design what he 
calls Flowforms  -- fountainlike vessels through which 
water flows in rhythmic motion. In creating Flowforms, 
Wilkes was greatly affected by the Goethean studies of 
water done by German hydrologist Theodor Schwenk, who 
concluded that the essence of water's movement is found 
in the tension between the linear tug of gravity and 
water's inherent tendency to draw itself into a sphere. 
Schwenk demonstrated that water reconciles this tension 
in three characteristic ways: the meander, the wave, and 
the vortex."

"In his Flowform research, Wilkes asks how these essential 
patterns of water can be incorporated in built form so 
that humanmade channels and vessels can support and enhance 
the basic movements of water rather than force them into 
unnatural surroundings as, for example, in channelized 
rivers with straight banks that interfere with the need 
of water to meander. Instead of forcing water to do what 
we human beings want, why not help it to maintain its own 
natural patterns and move the best it can? Riegner and 
Wilkes demonstrate that this kind of thinking leads to 
designed environments that work better both ecologically 
and aesthetically."

--- In [email-masked], "David Loring" <dloring3@c...> wrote:
> Steve - I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say water
can be energized, transformed and cleansed by water movement.  I
looked at the article you pointed to on water movement and a catalyst
and followed it to the original article which stated that movement
(they used a stirring movement in this case but it could just as
easily have been a plunging motion) was capable of imparting energy to
a straight forward catalytic system involving water and I think it was
Cupric oxide.  
> 
> Please break down what you're referring to on transforming,
energizing and cleansing of water.
> Dave Sotillo 50

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From: "Steve Diver" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:43:31 -0000

Hi -

Vibrational Water 

Steve Diver
Fayetteville, AR

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From: "David Loring" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:07:44 -0700

The water vortex theories seem to have come from people watching falling water and the coreolis effect which causes it to spin into a vortex due to the rotation of the earth.  Is that right?

Dave
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  From: Steve Diver 
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  Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:43 AM
  Subject: [compost_tea] Re: flowforms

  Hi -

  Vibrational Water 

  Steve Diver
  Fayetteville, AR

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  > Dave Sotillo 50

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From: "tomjasz" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:50:10 -0000

www.google.com
 "flowforms energized water"

this simple yields documents supporting the importance of flowforms 
and ACT

Vibrational Water Introduction
by Steve Diver
Vibrational water is a term we are using to encompass a broad range 
of concepts
and technologies related to energetic water themes.  Vibrational 
energy is an
emerging field in medicine, physics, and agriculture.  Thus, related 
terms include
vibrational medicine, vibrational physics, and vibrational 
agriculture.
One collaboration we are involved with uses the term quantum 
agriculture.
Technologies and practices associated with vibrational water include:
Reiki vibrated water, Sosei water, messages from water by Masaru 
Emoto, sai
sanjeevini enhanced water, flow forms, microbially remediated water, 
etc. 

Perhaps you will notice that some of these practices deal with subtle 
energy (e.g.,
Reiki, sai sanjeevini), while others are grounded in mechanical-
biological (e.g., flow
forms, Effective Microorganisms).  We take a liberal approach and 
include all of
these practices and concepts under this large umbrella known as 
vibrational water. 

Water is an essential and critical component of life on planet 
earth.  We feel
vibrational water is an emerging field that offers another tool, 
another approach,
as a solution to worldwide pollution of this precious resource.  The 
National Water
 Center invites you to explore this topic. 

Vibrational Water:// Emerging Themes; Alternative Theories & 
Technologies

--- In [email-masked], "David Loring" <dloring3@c...> 
can be energized, transformed and cleansed by water movement.  I 
looked at the article you pointed to on water movement and a catalyst 
and followed it to the original article which stated that movement 
(they used a stirring movement in this case but it could just as 
easily have been a plunging motion) was capable of imparting energy 
to a straight forward catalytic system involving water and I think it 
was Cupric oxide.  

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From: "tomjasz" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:50:10 -0000

www.google.com

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From: "Steve Diver" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:43:31 -0000

Hi -

Vibrational Water 

Steve Diver
Fayetteville, AR

Excerpt from:

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From: "David Loring" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:07:44 -0700

Dave
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Diver 
  To: [email-masked] 
  Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:43 AM
  Subject: [compost_tea] Re: flowforms

  Hi -

  Vibrational Water 

  Steve Diver
  Fayetteville, AR

  Excerpt from:

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