EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 14, Number 4 Today's Topics: Request for MIDI file spec (3 messages) Mirage and Mac MIDI programming on the Mac Music01 at ITEARN?? (2 messages) Matrix-1000 sys-ex (7 messages) MIDI Time Piece Hardware sequencers (10 messages) Competition announcement (2 messages) TR-909 (4 messages) More than 16 MIDI channels (3 messages) What synth to buy? Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 90 10:49:07 EST From: Bill Ermey Subject: MIDI file spec wanted If anyone has a copy of the latest MIDI file spec, would they please forward it to me at the above address. The latest I have been able to find is 0.06. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 90 11:32:04 MEZ From: Christian Teuscher Subject: Re: MIDI file spec wanted If you happen to receive the latest MIDI File Specs - could you forward it to me. Would be much appreciated. thanks --Christian Teuscher Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 90 22:12:00 EDT From: MIWU@VASSAR.BITNET Subject: Re: MIDI file spec wanted The International MIDI Association distributes the specs for standard MIDI Files. Their address is 5316 W. 57th Street, Los Angeles, CA, 90056. I think they want $3.00 to cover printing costs. mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 90 13:04:04 EST From: "B. Kirsch" Subject: Mirage-SoundProcess-Mac Hello, Is there anyone out there running Sound Process on their Mirage, and also uses a Mac? I am looking for beta testers for a visual editor that I am writing. Barry Kirsch MAIL: 2500 Skyview Ave. Langhorne PA, 19047 PHONE: (215) 441-1886 (W) (215) 322-7074 (H) ARPA: bkirsch@nadc.arpa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 90 16:01:00 EDT From: MIWU@VASSAR.BITNET Subject: MIDI programming on the Mac I would like to get in touch with people doing MIDI programming on the Mac or any other computer. Mike Wu MIWU@vaxsar ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 90 12:02:31 MEZ From: Christian Teuscher Subject: music01 at itearn?? Andrea Provaglio if you happen to read this please try to contact me directly, I had problems (your system refused to accept mail) --Christian Teuscher Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 90 15:08:26 EST From: JOAQUIM RAMOS CARVALHO CN.PT> Subject: re: MUSIC01 at ITEARN?? regarding the LISTSERV message stating that I could not be located on the list here is the address from which I receive mail from this list: .................. >From: Joe McMahon >Subject: EMUSIC-L LOG9003B >To: BSMTP best regards Joaquim Carvalho Instituto de Historia e Teoria das Ideias Faculdade de Letras 3049 COIMBRA CODEX PORTUGAL EARNET/BITNET: UC_JC at PTIFM or LEJRC at CIUC2.UC.RCCN.PT ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 90 11:15:00 CET From: "C.Fuhrhop" Subject: Matrix-1000 and SysEx Some time ago (8.Aug.89) Nick Rothwell complained that 'Oberheim is dreadfully secretive' about SysEx data of the Matrix-1000. In February Kurt A. Geisel mentioned that 'a XUG member hacked out the sysex-spec (Oberheim won't give you one!)'. Ignoring this I bought me a Matrix-1000 last Saturday. And the Oberheim Owner's Manual lists the 'Matrix-1000 System Exclusive Data Format' and the 'Matrix-1000 Single Patch Data Format'. So where's the problem with optaining the data? It's right in the manual! So are we talking about different SysEX data or has there been a policy change at Oberheim or is there a special 'European market manual' or what happened? Anyone able to enlighten me? (The full title of my manual is Oberheim Matrix-1000 Analog Sound Module Owner's Manual Second-Edition - July, 1988) Another question: Is there any PD-Sound Editor available for the Matrix? Once again confused by reality Christian Fuhrhop ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 90 10:04:14 EST From: "Kurt A. Geisel" Subject: Re: Matrix-1000 and SysEx >In February Kurt A. Geisel mentioned that 'a XUG member hacked out the >sysex-spec (Oberheim won't give you one!)' I'm not sure how my message got mixed up in that thread, but I was undoubtedly referring to the Xpander/Matrix-12 sysex spec, to which that statement applies. XUG stands for Xpander User's Group. The Xpander/Matrix-12 and Matrix-1000/6 are two ENTIRELY different ball games. If Oberheim hadn't given the sysex spec to the Matrix-1000, they would have been fantastically stupid because it doesn't have a FRONT PANEL!!! Not giving the sysex spec for the Xpander/Matrix-12 was only monstrously stupid... - Kurt Kurt Geisel SNAIL : Carnegie Mellon University 65 Lambeth Dr. ARPA : kg19+@andrew.cmu.edu Pittsburgh, PA 15241 UUCP : uunet!nfsun!kgeisel "We just need to short-circuit the continuum on a BIX : kgeisel 5 or 6 parsec level." - Forbidden Planet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 09:59:21 BST From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Matrix-1000 and SysEx >Some time ago (8.Aug.89) Nick Rothwell complained that 'Oberheim is >dreadfully secretive' about SysEx data of the Matrix-1000. Nope, I reckoned they were being secretive about the Matrix-6 and Cyclone. >And the Oberheim Owner's Manual lists the 'Matrix-1000 System Exclusive >Data Format' and the 'Matrix-1000 Single Patch Data Format'. >So where's the problem with optaining the data? It's right in the manual! I was referring to the Matrix-6, not the '1000. >Another question: Is there any PD-Sound Editor available for the Matrix? Yes, I've written one, but it's incomplete because I DON'T HAVE THE FULL SYSEX INFORMATION! Kurt writes: >If Oberheim hadn't given the sysex spec to the Matrix-1000, they would have >been fantastically stupid because it doesn't have a FRONT PANEL!!! The TX7 has no front panel, and there is no SysEx spec. in the manual (but, it's pretty well identical to the DX7/I). Holding onto the data would lock would-be programmers into software packages put together by pet companies; of course, this is a nice industry where such despicable things don't happen... Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 23:30:48 EST From: "Kurt A. Geisel" Subject: Re: Matrix-1000 and SysEx >The TX7 has no front panel, and there is no SysEx spec. in the manual >(but, it's pretty well identical to the DX7/I). Here it is months later and people still don't understand my original comment. I guess I'm that bad at communicating via E-mail. I don't mean that the Xpander sysex spec. just isn't in the manual. I mean it just isn't! They won't even give you one if you beg and plead and bleed on their door. Or even if you start your own massive user's group. (Just ask Metaly- he did. And they didn't.) Maybe the new Oberheim will change that policy. The ONLY WAY we ever got something of a sysex spec is by a couple of guys hacking around, pushing buttons and watching MIDIscopes and trying to send it back at the thing... For something of the Xpander's complexity, you would think this is pretty stupid. - Kurt Kurt Geisel SNAIL : Carnegie Mellon University 65 Lambeth Dr. ARPA : kg19+@andrew.cmu.edu Pittsburgh, PA 15241 UUCP : uunet!nfsun!kgeisel "We just need to short-circuit the continuum on a BIX : kgeisel 5 or 6 parsec level." - Forbidden Planet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 90 11:00:47 BST From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Matrix-1000 and SysEx 27 Mar 90 23:30:48 EST <15235.9003280915@lfcs.ed.ac.uk >The ONLY WAY we ever got something of a sysex spec is by a couple of >guys hacking around, pushing buttons and watching MIDIscopes and >trying to send it back at the thing... You want a real challenge, try reverse engineering the SysEx spec of a Cyclone. MIDI SysEx message comes out, you send it back, and the Cyclone crashes... Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 90 10:27:46 CST From: Philip Galanter Subject: Re: Matrix-1000 and SysEx In fact Oberheim has distributed a full sys-ex document for the Xpander and Matrix-12, but only to a few people. I forwarded a copy of mine to Mike Metlay to share with the world via the User's Group. I will soon have a Xpander/Matrix-12 editor implemented using GenEdit, a wonderful Generic editor from hybrid Arts. Unlike some others, such as X-Or, GenEdit editors can be made to look and feel like (ie as good as) dedicated editors...fancy graphics, various types of controllers, and the other tools you need to design a good user interface. And if you want to make changes to it, fine, GenEdit lets you the user do that too. Yes, I have been paid by Hybrid Arts on a consulting basis, but trust me anyway... I haven't figured out how I will distribute the editor yet, but even using the GenEdit tools, it takes a fair amount of work...so I would like to recover some of my effort... By the way, GenEdit runs now on the Atari ST/Mega series...a Mac version has been announced but is not yet shipping...Phil || Philip Galanter, Manager \\ 627 Dartmouth Place // AppleLink: A42 \\ || Advanced Technology Group \\ Evanston IL 60208 // Compuserve: 76474,154 \\ || Northwestern Univ. - ACNS \\ (708)-491-4050 // galanter@acns.nwu.edu \\ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 90 20:33:00 EST From: METLAY@PITTVMS.BITNET Subject: Re: Matrix-1000 and SysEx GenEdit. *sigh* Looks like I'm buying a Mac, folx. I wonder how hard it'd be to hack up a VS editor? |-> metlayu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 90 10:39:17 BST From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Midi Time Piece Has MOTU's Midi Time Piece been reviewed in any of the US rags yet? (I get Keyboard shipped surface-mail, so I'm rather behind the times.) Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 90 11:54:00 EST From: "b.klassen" Subject: hardware sequencers ... Has anyone has any experience with the (new?) Brother 30, 40 model sequencers? I'm looking for something relatively inexpensive to use live so I can leave my IBM PC at home (where it belongs). The Brother units are two-track, can recor on multilple MIDI channels at once, and have a nice 3.5" disk-drive. I've gathered from sales-types that the unit can also store patch data on its drive which would be nice. I can pick up a unit for around $450 Cdn, which is much cheaper that trying to roadify my XT. Any comments? Thanks, brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 08:51:37 BST From: Tony Jewell Subject: Re: hardware sequencers ... As an alternative to using a sequencer, have you thought of using one of the direct-to-disk data filers. Alesis and Elka make one, and I think Yamaha do as well. These things aren't sequencers as such, as they offer no editing facilties or anything, but what they do do is store all incoming Midi data on disk, and then spew it out later at the same rate. The idea would be to hook one up to your sequencer, record the output for your song, and then take the machine with you live, and replay the information. These things are considerably cheaper than hardware sequncers, and are usually pretty small. They seem ideal for live work, where you don't want to lug a computer around with you, and a hardware sequencer offers a lot of functions that you wouldn't need. The Alesis costs 290 pounds - I think the Elka is cheaper, but I can't find a price for it. Tony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony J Jewell Systems Officer City Of London Polytechnic ___ . ___ JANET: tonyj@uk.ac.clp.unixa / \ / / \ EARN/BitNet: tonyj@unixa.clp.ac.uk / / /___ / EAN: tonyj%clp.unixa@ean-relay.ac.uk <____/ <___ / ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 11:33:33 BST From: Nick Rothwell Subject: hardware sequencers ... 27 Mar 90 08:51:37 BST <7931.9003270909@lfcs.ed.ac.uk >As an alternative to using a sequencer, have you thought of using one of the >direct-to-disk data filers. Alesis and Elka make one, and I think Yamaha do >as well. These things aren't sequencers as such, as they offer no editing >facilties or anything, but what they do do is store all incoming Midi data >on disk, and then spew it out later at the same rate. Nope, the Alesis doesn't do this, but only stores SysEx dumps. I don't know of any Yamaha realtime MIDI recorder either. There's the Elka, and Brother make one as well. These things do stuff like overdubbing and merging, but no editing. >They seem ideal for live work, where you don't want to lug a computer around >with you, and a hardware sequencer offers a lot of functions that you wouldn' >need. None of the dedicated units I've seen can drive more than 16 channels on one port. I think I'm going to be buying the MOTU MIDI Timepiece (8 separate inputs & outputs, 128 addressable MIDI channels) and drive it from the Mac (Macs aren't too unportable), and use the Mac/Performer live, rather than try to shoehorn everything into a little black box. >The Alesis costs 290 pounds - I think the Elka is cheaper, but I can't find a >price for it. Both list for #299. The Elka can record MIDI performance info (notes etc.) in realtime and play them back. The Alesis can't. The only benefit of the Alesis is that you can use the LCD display to name the dumps; the Elka only has LED digits. The Elka has more functionality, but less marketing clout. Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 14:26:49 BST From: Tony Jewell Subject: Re: hardware sequencers ... > Nope, the Alesis doesn't do this, but only stores SysEx dumps. I don't > know of any Yamaha realtime MIDI recorder either. There's the Elka, > and Brother make one as well. These things do stuff like overdubbing and > merging, but no editing. I stand corrected - I must admit I didn't pay too much attention to the review in Music Technology. If you want a full review of the Elka, its in May '89 of MT. As for Yamaha - didn't they have some little unit thats was a sibling of the EMT10 - don't know if it was realtime however. > None of the dedicated units I've seen can drive more than 16 channels on > one port. I think I'm going to be buying the MOTU MIDI Timepiece > (8 separate inputs & outputs, 128 addressable MIDI channels) and drive it > >from the Mac (Macs aren't too unportable), and use the Mac/Performer > live, rather than try to shoehorn everything into a little black box. However, its fine if, like me, you use an atari, which has only one output - I could record just from that (I dream of the day when I have enough equipment to use up all sixteen midi channels). I must admit I wouldn't even like to take a Mac live - I used my atari live once, and it was a horrible experience. The other advantage of one of these little boxes that I could see is the reduction in loading time. When I used the atari, I had to load in each song - about 1 minute, which caused annoying gaps. With the Elka, it would just be a case of swapping disks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony J Jewell Systems Officer City Of London Polytechnic ___ . ___ JANET: tonyj@uk.ac.clp.unixa / \ / / \ EARN/BitNet: tonyj@unixa.clp.ac.uk / / /___ / EAN: tonyj%clp.unixa@ean-relay.ac.uk <____/ <___ / ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 16:01:57 BST From: Nick Rothwell Subject: hardware sequencers ... 27 Mar 90 14:26:49 BST <11024.9003271434@lfcs.ed.ac.uk >As for Yamaha - didn't they have some little unit thats was a sibling of >the EMT10 - don't know if it was realtime however. There's the MDF-1, a small SysEx recorder that takes (acht... ptui!) Quick Disks. Maybe there are others. >However, its fine if, like me, you use an atari, which has only one output - >I could record just from that (I dream of the day when I have enough equipmen >to use up all sixteen midi channels). It doesn't take that much, actually; a D-110 can eat 10 channels on its own, and a VFX will eat 12. I currently run around 25 channels (rarely all at once, I admit), although I could merge some of these if necessary. But, there will be two of us, and my colleague is shoehorned into the 16 channel limit himself (with an Atari). Hence, the interest in the Timepiece hardware. (Who could run over a limit of 128 MIDI channels? Bon Jovi?) >I must admit I wouldn't even like to >take a Mac live - I used my atari live once, and it was a horrible experience Could you explain why? I'm quite keen to hear such experiences. Regarding loading time, song cueing and the like, a Mac+ with HD shouldn't be any problem (and Performer lets you build entire sets, pulling the sequence data off the HD into memory as/when required). Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 11:17:44 EST From: "ISA-HRDD Robert N. Muth" Subject: Re: hardware sequencers ... >> ... (I dream of the day when I have enough equipment to use up all >> sixteen midi channels). As do I!! > .. I currently run around 25 channels.. How exactly is one able to run more than the 16 midi channels availible??? I was under the ignorant impression that a max of 16 channels is available to midi. Is there a way to assign several 'virtual' channels to a specific midi channel? Wouldn't this cause extensive midi choke?? Am I totally clueless??? (rhetorical question, need not be answered!) > .. who could out run 128 midi channels, Bon Jovi? Ha, it if was available. Yes might also get it a try. |------------------------------==| | | | Robert N. Muth INTERNET: rmuth@cor1.pica.army.mil | | Coop Engineering Student U91_RMUTH@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU | | BITNET: U91_RMUTH@SITVXC | | | | Stevens Institute of Technology/Picatinny Arsenal | | | | "The best cure for insomnia is a Monday morning" - Sandy Cooley | | | |------------------------------==| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 14:52:00 EST From: "b.klassen" Subject: more questions about buildings and sequencers ... Interesting concept, using a storage device instead of a sequencer, but I'm no sure how it would work. I guess it's like "typing" out the contents of a file ...? I'll have to check out the area for availability/price. (I'm getting more than a little fed up with music stores in the area ... I may start to mail-order from the States ... another story, however.) My preference would b to stick with an IBM machine and the software I know and love -- Texture. An upgrade (Texture Live) has been recently released which looks promising for live performing. It lets you have sets of up to 50 songs, and allows you to modify various song parameters during playback. The problem being my 5-year-old XT clone, held together with bits of string, tape, and bubble gum. Does anyone have any suggestions for stage-proofing a standard PC? I've thought of spraying the inside with foam ...;-) I too would like to hear about any horror stories relating to performing with computer. I've been playing with a band for about 2 and a half years using an MC500 with virtually no problems, other than the odd operator error ... (unfortunately I can't use the MC500 in my upcoming gig due to the fact it isn't mine and the owner won't let it out of his sight). Hmmm ... more than 16 MIDI channels. That'd be nice. Hopefully the latest version of Texture will support that, although the MPU-401 probably won't. I' making due with 16, but it gets to be a mess sometimes remembering where everything is. If my Xk ever dies and takes all its patch-change data with it ... suppose I should put that sort of stuff on the computer as well. While I'm at it, can anyone tell me about the Roland JX-8P and the JX-3P, and any corresponding rack units. There's been some great prices in the Buy&Sell lately that have got me to thinking ... brian --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Klassen 1200 Main St. West Data Comm Engineer Hamilton, Ontario Chedoke-McMaster Hospitals L8N 3Z5 (416)521-9800 x5153 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Mar 90 10:37:17 BST From: Nick Rothwell Subject: hardware sequencers ... 27 Mar 90 11:17:44 EST <13003.9003272306@lfcs.ed.ac.uk >How exactly is one able to run more than the 16 midi channels availible??? Each MIDI "buss" can only address 16 channels (although you can get the effect of more by doing nasty things like keyboard splits). But, there's no reason why you can't have more than one separate MIDI buss. I have two, coming out of the Mac's two serial ports. Hence, 32 channels. The MIDI Timepiece from MOTU allows 8 separate MIDI output busses to be addressed from a single RS422 port using some magic protocol, hence 128 channels. >Wouldn't this cause extensive midi choke?? At full bandwidth, yes, but some outboard units do their own buffering and timestamping (like the MTP above), so this should be less of a problem. Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 18:54:00 EST From: Dean Swan Subject: Re: hardware sequencers ... Tony's statement about MIDI data filers such as the Alesis disk drive is not accurate. True, they will record anything coming in to a file on disk. *NOT* True is that when recalled from disk, the data is not sent out at the same rate it came in. It is simply spewed out, as fast as MIDI will allow. These drives are basically sys-ex recorders. They aren't really meant to act like the (defunct?) MIDI Dj, which does do what Tony says. Maybe the Elka unit is like the MIDI Dj. Anyway, at today's rates, I would think that $450 Canadian, and 290 pounds sterling are about the same amount of money. -Dean Swan dean@sun.soe.clarkson.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 90 20:21:00 EST From: METLAY@PITTVMS.BITNET Subject: Re: more questions about buildings and sequencers ... The JX3P is a great little box with a two-DCO analog architecture, MIDI and a tiny littel sequencer on board. It has velocity receive capability but its keybd doesn't sense velocioty.It can be programmed from the front pane , but there's also a knob'n'swith box (The PG200, I think)The MKS 30 Planet-S the rack version. The JX8P has vel and pressure, and more powerful architectur but no sequencer, I think. The MKS 70 is two JX8ps or a JX10 in a rakc. They all sound very good, and are nice and cheap these days. metlay ps. Sorry for typos; telnet echo is about 15 seconds. pfui! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 18:22:15 MEZ From: Christian Teuscher Subject: Competition To the interactive community: This year Ars Electronica has a new entry:Interactive Art Of course, there is something to win: $12,578 for the first Watch the deadline: 15.May.1990 - so you should have plenty time... The adress: Prix Ars Electronica - Bureau Franckstr. 2a A-4010 LINZ Austria Europe --Christian T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 18:28:55 MEZ From: Christian Teuscher Subject: Re: Competition I just saw that there is a contacts person in the US Rachel Carpenter, 82 Queva Vista, Novato, CA 2100 (415) 892-8254 --Christian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 15:30:17 -0600 From: James Scott Subject: roland tr-909 can somebody enlighten me regarding the merit (or disadvantages) of the tr-909 9 drum synth? also, at the risk of decreasing the net's SNR, what could i expec to pay for one of these machines? thanks in advance ... james jscott@PEMRAC.space.swri.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 23:52:14 EST From: Andy Silverman Subject: Re: roland tr-909 I don't think they make the TR-909 anymore, do they? Roland's pushing the R-5 and R-8 right now (bought an R-5 myself!). The 909 had that nice old "rubbery" digital sound (Phil Collins' Take Me Home intro as an example...) I'm not sure what sort of bit resolution the thing had, but I'm fairly sure the sound base wasn't expandable. Please prove me wrong. Also, I don't think it had any sophisticated LCD display or anything, just those 16 light-up buttons and a few others. The tuning and parameter control was all by knobs on the front panel, a couple for each sound if I remember correctly. Anybody got any more info? The R-5's real nice, if you're looking for a new machine 68 sounds (non-expandable, unfortunately), 16-bit 44.1KHz samples, and unlike the Alesis HR-16 ALL 68 of the sounds are accessible simultaneously through MIDI, not just the 16 programmed to the pads. Also has some really nice human feel features... Andy +-----------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | Andy Silverman | Internet: silver@eniac.seas.upenn.edu | | "All stressed out and | Compu$erve: 72261,531 | | nobody to choke." | | +-----------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 90 10:58:14 BST From: Nick Rothwell Subject: roland tr-909 27 Mar 90 23:52:14 EST <15050.9003280841@lfcs.ed.ac.uk >Also, I don't think >it had any sophisticated LCD display or anything, just those 16 light-up >buttons and a few others. The tuning and parameter control was all by knobs We're going to rackmount a TR-909 for our live set. Not for the sounds, you understand, but just to get that wonderful Tangerine Dream-style bouncing sequencer LED display, by locking the '909 to Performer and ignoring its sounds. Maybe we'll cover the Roland name, or paint the entire unit black, to make it look like a Palm Electronic custom sequencer job... :-) Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 90 20:24:00 EST From: METLAY@PITTVMS.BITNET Subject: Re: roland tr-909 The TR-909 was Roland's first MIDI drum box. It has analog as well as digital o unds on board. It is cuyrrently in demand for house and rap music, and costs a forune for those who cant get TR808s. In Chicago they casll it the Juice Machine, I h a r. metlay ----------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Mar 90 16:44:00 EDT From: General Delivery Subject: using 16+ midi channels There are several hardware/software packages that allow more than 16 midi channels. The MQX-32 MIDI interface by Music Quest is an MPU-401 compatable interface that allows two distinct sets of 16 midi channels - total of 32 channels. I know that the latest version of Texture (Magnetic Music), 3.5 I believe, will allow you to assign both a channel and a port if using the MQX-32. I believe Cakewalk can do this as well. |-----------------------------------||---------------------------------------- | | Danny Weiss || Synthetic Softworks | | Senior Systems Analyst || Oberheim Matrix-6/1000 Editor/Librarian | | Stevens Institute of Technology || for MS-DOS Computers | | Hoboken, NJ || 201-433-0802 | | WEISS_D@STEVENS.BITNET ||---------------------------------------- | | WEISS_D@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU || |-----------------------------------|| Date: Wed, 28 Mar 90 10:46:55 BST From: Nick Rothwell Subject: using 16+ midi channels 27 Mar 90 16:44:00 EDT <13397.9003280142@lfcs.ed.ac.uk >There are several hardware/software packages that allow more than 16 midi >channels. The MQX-32 MIDI interface by Music Quest is an MPU-401 compatable Sorry, I have an allergic reaction to PC/MS-DOS technology... :-( I'll go for the Mac/Performer/MTP setup, I think. Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 90 13:04:00 EST From: "b.klassen" Subject: RE: using 16+ midi channels >Sorry, I have an allergic reaction to PC/MS-DOS technology... :-( > >I'll go for the Mac/Performer/MTP setup, I think. > > Nick. I get the same reaction when I think about what my wife will do when I tell he how much money I just spent upgrading my system to a Mac! It's on the horizon out there with Xpanders, Fairlights, ... brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 90 16:59:11 EST From: Tom Southall Subject: What synth to buy: Roland U-20, Korg A1? Hi all, I am a guitar/bass player just getting into home studio work and would like to get a MIDI keyboard for primarily masking sounds and sequensing parts that I can not play up to tempo. I like "clean and natural" sounds rather than the obviously synthetic ones and would expect to use the factory preset sounds with minimum alterations. In testing keyboards over the last few weeks the Roland U-20 keyboard had a nice touch to it and the vanilla sine-wave sound had some depth/thickness to it. The salesperson was pushing the Korg as a more versitile (and expensive) machine in the long run. Can anybody give me some feedback on their use of these keyboards, or suggest others I should be looking at? Thanks for any help, Tom BitNet: SOUTHALL@AUVM End of EMUSIC-L Digest **********************