EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 14, Number 5 Today's Topics: Request for synth recommendations (4 messages) MIDI to CV conversion Roland Juno-60 (3 messages) MIDI switching (3 messages) Standalone filters? (2 messages) Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 90 10:33:25 BST From: Nick Rothwell Subject: What synth to buy: Roland U-20, Korg A1? 28 Mar 90 16:59:11 EST <24972.9003282333@lfcs.ed.ac.uk >In testing keyboards over the last few weeks the Roland U-20 >keyboard had a nice touch to it and the vanilla sine-wave sound had >some depth/thickness to it. I'm confused: how can a sine wave have depth and thickness? I believe the U-machines have chorus/reverb, which may be what you mean. The U-20 is a wonderful machine, if all you're after is a library of good preset sounds. Of course, you're at the mercy of Roland regarding any new sets of ROM cards. Metlay's law applies here. Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 90 09:22:15 EST From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: What synth to buy: Roland U-20, Korg A1? The Korg M1/T1/T2/T3 sounds very good, and has one of the best keyboards I've ever played in a non-weighted keyboard... then again, I like the VFX's keyboard, so take it with a grain (or shaker) of salt... Anyway, if you want nice clean sounds, the ability to combine them in a fairly nice manner, on-board processing, and (in the case of the T-series) a fairly nice sequencer (or a fairly poor on on the M1), this might be a box to look at. If you're going to use an external sequencer, the M1 is lots cheaper, and can be upgraded to T3-equivalent (except for the sequencer - more sounds) for $300-400. --- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 90 23:50:22 MEZ From: Christian Teuscher Subject: Re: What synth to buy: Roland U-20, Korg A1? Nick, I guess you are working on a Mac.(Thanks for the Lib, I'll try to mail a program to you). If you happen to have a Mac II - watch out for NuBus preset samplers. There's a rumor of Emu-Proteus Card just about leaving the factory. --Christian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 90 10:02:45 BST From: Nick Rothwell Subject: What synth to buy: Roland U-20, Korg A1? 29 Mar 90 23:50:22 MEZ <6909.9003292204@lfcs.ed.ac.uk >Nick, I guess you are working on a Mac.(Thanks for the Lib, I'll try to mail >a program to you). If you happen to have a Mac II - watch out for NuBus >preset samplers. There's a rumor of Emu-Proteus Card Mac II? I had enough problems scraping together the money for a Mac+. For the price difference I could probably buy a couple of Proteuses anyway. Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 90 10:25:06 EST From: Lorne <051796@UOTTAWA.BITNET> Subject: MIDI to CV conversion boxes Hi. I would like to hear from anyone with experience using MIDI to analogue control voltage converters for driving older analogue synths. I am, despite what the trade magazines say, unable to find a Roland MPU- 101. Technicians are telling me they have never seen one, let alone the Cooper rack unit. I do know Cision, Philip Rees and Groove Electronics in Britain make them for the "ACID House" crowd, but there is the problem of servicing, parts, and power supplies. PAIA make kit/boards for about $100+, but they involve chopping and hacking, and I had a bad experience with one of their kits 5 years ago. (Granted, times change.) There is also a rumor of an outfit called MIDICO or MIDI Co., but no address. They have some kind of unit. Also rumored, that Akai produced one, once. I am willing to put up an info package for the archive if you can help out. What works for you? Do they convert both ways, ie, can I load a live analog sequence jam? How much are they going for when, if, they surface? Also, seen any Sequential Programmers around? Thanks Replies to: 051796 AT UOTTAWA.CA (Bitnet) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 90 19:18:42 GMT From: Duy-Minh NHIEU Subject: Roland Juno 60 I am looking for the Juno60's factory build in patches, can anyone send me one? (Either by email (if you want to type it in!) or by mail). I don't have a Roland Juno 60 but I have access to one, unfortunately the manual is gone! I like the build in settings, and I have a Korg poly61. The Korg poly61 is quite like the Juno 60 (although it doesn't have chorus and noise..). I would like to put the Juno's patch in the Korg and try it out! reply to: dmnhieu@daisy.waterloo.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 90 10:06:50 BST From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Roland Juno 60 29 Mar 90 19:18:42 GMT <7362.9003300032@lfcs.ed.ac.uk I have the Juno-106 factory patches in a MIDI library form. The '60 doesn't have MIDI to my knowledge. Manually converting Juno patches for a Korg would almost certainly result in something which sounds rather different. Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 90 15:31:22 GMT From: Duy-Minh NHIEU Subject: Re: Roland Juno 60 Unfortunately, the Korg poly61 doesn't have midi either. So the only way is by manual. Certainly it will be different. I wonder if the Korg poly61 (2 oscilator per voice like the Juno 60) can generate a church organ sound. If you have the Yamaha DX21, I am talking about the tease <6> patche. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 90 09:55:00 EST From: JWK%OPUS@MCOIARC.BITNET Subject: MIDI Router for two computers. Could anyone suggest a MIDI device for switching control of a studio between two computers (a Mac and an Amiga in this case). I'm in a lab situation where librarians for some synths are on the Mac and others on the Amiga, and a variety of sequencers are used on both machines. This is a mutually exclusive situation where only one computer is used at a time, but switching easily between them is highly desirable. Thanks, joe k. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 90 10:25:00 EDT From: General Delivery Subject: midi routers/switchers joe - there are several midi router/switcher units available on the market - price ranging from $100 - ??? I use a 360 Systems MIDI Patcher. It's a programable 8 x 8 matrix MIDI switcher. JL Cooper also has a similar product, along with several other manufacturers. Some models are more programmable than other, some have merging and/or filtering capabilities. It sounds like all you need is a switcher - the 360 Systems Patcher might be all you need - it cost around $250. |-----------------------------------||-----------------------------------------| | Danny Weiss || Synthetic Softworks - authors of OBIEX | | Senior Systems Analyst || Oberheim Matrix-6/1000 Editor/Librarian | | Stevens Institute of Technology || for MS-DOS Computers | | Hoboken, NJ || 201-433-0802 | | WEISS_D@STEVENS.BITNET ||-----------------------------------------| | WEISS_D@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU || |-----------------------------------|| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 90 11:18:00 EDT From: MIWU@VASSAR.BITNET Subject: Re: MIDI Router for two computers. Joe, I think Casio sells an A/B MIDI switcher for about $40.00. Yamaha also sells one, but I think it's around $70. mike Date: Fri, 30 Mar 90 13:26:00 EST From: "b.klassen" Subject: Stand alone analog filters ...? Is there such a thing? I was reading an article in Electronic Musician which refered to a device called an "Envelope Follower" which is (was?) supposedly a filter and envelope generator in a stomp-box. The article was recommending this device as a way to add to sample-playback-unit sound (if you don't own a Minimoog or some other piece of gear that lets you patch audio into its filter section). Sounded like an intriguing experiment, if nothing else. Also, I was wondering if Nick Rothwell would enlighten us IBM users regarding his Mac setup. I found out just this morning that I may be able to get a used Mac for a good price, and I could use that to solve my live-performance dilema. brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 90 18:13:00 EST From: METLAY@PITTVMS.BITNET Subject: Re: Stand alone analog filters ...? Oh, damn. Did you hear that? Another grey hair on my poor head! Ouch! Brian, time was, the ONLY analog filters were "standalone." They were modules from modular synths that could be patched to any sort of audio input, and controlled by envelopes-in-a-box, LFOs-in-a-box, and so on. The Envelope Follower (or "auto-wah") is a dynamic filter that opens in proportion to signal amplitude. It's used by funk bassists and reggae guitarists mostly, these days, but has to be used sparingly, as the effect is pronounced and can be REALLY annoying after a half hour or so. |-> metlay ------------------------------ ---------------------- End of EMUSIC-L Digest **********************