EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 29, Number 4 This issue's topics: Mu-major chords? (7 messages) M1/MAC Problem midimod Terminology (4 messages) Microphone recommendation: Crown SASS-P Playing by ear or Sight-reading. Your EMUSIC-D moderator is Joe McMahon. Please send articles to emusic-L@auvm.american.edu (or EMUSIC-L@AUVM.BITNET). Administrative mail should be directed to xrjdm@scfvm.nasa.gov. Digests will be distributed semi-monthly to monthly. For faster response to questions, subscribe to EMUSIC-L@AUVM.BITNET (or emusic-l@auvm.american.edu). The EMUSIC-L discussion group can alo be accessed via bit.listserv.emusic-l on Usenet. Subscribers to this list may send articles to EMUSIC-D@AUVM.BITNET (or emusic-d@auvm.american.edu); they will be reviewed and forwarded to EMUSIC-L. Back issues are available from xrjdm@scfvm.gsfc.nasa.gov. This is a manual operation, so requests for things like "all back issues" will take a long time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 09:04:00 EDT From: "William R(ay) Brohinsky" Subject: Mu-major chords? What is the Steely-Dan-ish mu-major form? Is this an important part of theory that I've missed? (It's what I get for believing that you can learn music theory from the likes of Hindemuth, Stravinski, Piston, and Gotteschalk.) raybro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 10:00:19 EDT From: Jeffrey R Kell Subject: Re: Alternative Music Notation Systems? On Wed, 5 Jun 91 09:04:00 EDT William R(ay) Brohinsky said: >What is the Steely-Dan-ish mu-major form? Is this an important part >of theory that I've missed? (It's what I get for believing that you >can learn music theory from the likes of Hindemuth, Stravinski, Piston, >and Gotteschalk.) I guess you could call it "street theory" :-) As it was shown to me, it is peculiar bar chord that is sort of a major-9 with an imbedded 9th (or would you prefer, an added sus2?). For example, a G-mu is G-D-A-B-D-G. A similar chord to the opening "rrrringggg" in Prince's Purple Rain, but that's more like Bb-D-F-Bb-C-F. Steely Dan "glossy sheet music" usually has "Peg" starting I-I-V with straight cords, but the 'I's are 'mu's and it DOES make a difference :-) There is probably a more technical term for it (feel free to post it) but again, this is from local working musicians and not Music grad students. /Jeff/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 10:39:29 EDT From: David Van Allen Subject: Re: Alternative Music Notation Systems? In article <65633532C67F00F891@utrcgw.utc.com>, "William R(ay) Brohinsky" says: > >What is the Steely-Dan-ish mu-major form? Is this an important part >of theory that I've missed? (It's what I get for believing that you >can learn music theory from the likes of Hindemuth, Stravinski, Piston, >and Gotteschalk.) > >raybro The definition "Mu major" was delineated by TheDan themselves in the introduction to their published sheet music book for _The Royal Scam_ material.. they also said they would be coming around to local clubs to make sure that we were using it correctly, when covering their tunes.... It is as defined in another message; kinda stacked fourths, and fits almost anywhere(ha!) ;-} --- *-----------------------------*-------------------------------------* | David Van Allen | | | American University Library | "THE DAVE-INATOR, | | Access Services Department | MAKIN' COPIES!!" | | Copy Center Manager | | *-----------------------------*-------------------------------------* | CompuServe 72627,526 | "You and I may have nothing else in | | MooseMuseMusicInternational | common...." - Ray Scott, B.A.S.S. | | MIDI/Steel Guitar/Tunesmythe| {õ/~~oõo | | | {/õ_{_() Support catch & release!| *-----------------------------*-------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 13:26:00 EDT From: "William R(ay) Brohinsky" Subject: Re: Alternative Music Notation Systems? /Jeff/, in re: Steely-Danish muisms: I am a guitarist, but I can't imagine fingering that G-mu. Does he use a detune (scordatura, for those who speak the lingo)? If so, what is it, and what are the chord-fingering-shapes that go with it? If you can pseudo-tab the answer, good, if not, the scordatura and a few spelled out chords should do, at least for me. raybro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 14:07:14 EDT From: Russ Gelinas Subject: Re: Alternative Music Notation Systems? raybro, If I remember correctly, that G-mu was GDABDG. So play a 6th root bar on the 3rd fret (G), but move your little finger from the 5th fret 4th string (G) to the 7th fret 4th string (A). It's a stretch, but not too bad. Russ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 14:57:52 EDT From: Jeffrey R Kell Subject: Re: Alternative Music Notation Systems? On Wed, 5 Jun 91 13:26:00 EDT William R(ay) Brohinsky said: >/Jeff/, in re: Steely-Danish muisms: >I am a guitarist, but I can't imagine fingering that G-mu. Does he >use a detune (scordatura, for those who speak the lingo)? If so, what >is it, and what are the chord-fingering-shapes that go with it? I'll try to remember to ask Rob next time I see him exactly what it is on guitar; I probably added a note or two for the keyboard (after drawing a bit of a fretboard, I can see what you mean :-) ). But the position of the ninth in the middle is the signature. Seems it is also a "plucked" chord (no fingers left to mute a leftover). The sequence I gave was the one I use on keyboard. (Anybody got a chart for Black Cow? I'm lost after the opening C13 :-) Will trade opening of Deacon Blues :-) /Jeff/ "In the corner of my eye I saw you at Rudy's, you were very high" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 15:20:46 EDT From: Jeffrey R Kell Subject: Re: Alternative Music Notation Systems? On Wed, 5 Jun 91 14:07:14 EDT Russ Gelinas said: >raybro, > If I remember correctly, that G-mu was GDABDG. So play a 6th root >bar on the 3rd fret (G), but move your little finger from the 5th fret >4th string (G) to the 7th fret 4th string (A). It's a stretch, but not >too bad. OK, if that fits, that should fly; the C/D versions later would be higher on the neck (and not such a stretch). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 16:57:00 EDT From: bwg@SESCENT.ATT.COM >What is the Steely-Dan-ish mu-major form? > For example, a G-mu is G-D-A-B-D-G. I believe this is called a "G add 9" chord. It differs from the G major 9 chord in that it has NO seventh, which radically alters the complexion of the chord. Brian + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Brian W. Gardner att!sescent!bwg + + Analysts International Corp. brian@sescent.att.com + + AT&T Network Systems, Columbus Ohio voice: 614-860-4681 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 14:54:00 EDT From: rg8 Subject: M1/MAC Problem I am writing in hopes that someone has found a solution to or reason for a problem I'm having using my Korg M1R with Opcode's Galaxy or the M1 Editor/Librarian. Specifically, I am only rarely able to get a bank from the M1 using either program. The usual message is "An expected MIDI message was not received. Check your cables and connections,etc." I have checked all possible connections and have even had the software in my M1 replaced (version 06 for the R). My interface and Galaxy work fine with my other sound modules, so it points to the M1. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 16:28:08 EDT From: ronin Subject: midimod ok, so i'm just lazy and don't feel like scanning back issues of EM... who here knows what about retrofitting the emu drumulator for midi? --------------------------< Eschew Obfuscation >------------------------- Eric Harnden (Ronin) The American University Physics Dept. Washington, D.C ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 08:17:00 EDT From: wbf@CBEMA.ATT.COM Subject: Terminology Common (popular) practice seems to use the term "electronic music" in a much broader sense than what I learned in college. I learned "electronic music" as that avant garde portion of classical music that grew out of music concrete and employs electronics to generate sound. Popular culture seems to include pop, rock, jazz, etc. merely because electronics is used. Am I brainwashed and/or narrow minded? Sentences ending in prepositions bother me, too! Bill Fox Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 10:00:12 EDT From: Andy Moore Subject: Terminology After thinking about what I said, I realize the problem: When someone asks what kind of music you like, what do you say? All of the following options seem inadequate: (a) "Sort of electronic/new age/rock/jazz"; (b) list representative examples of artists, which rapidly grows as you try to touch all the different styles and maintain a general balance; (c) "A lot of different kinds of stuff..." Any brilliant solutions to The Name Game? ;-P ________________________________________________________________________ Andy Moore ZMATM@SCFVM.GSFC.NASA.GOV | [ with heavy Ital. accent ] -----------------------------------------| "Laugh while you can, ST Systems Corp | | Monkey Boy!" 4400 Forbes Blvd | 24015 Santa Anita Ct | - Dr Lizardo, Lanham, MD 20706 | Damascus, MD 20872 | Buckaroo Bonzai Across 301-794-5355 | 301-253-2080 | the 8th Dimension ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 11:40:00 EDT From: Mark Simon Subject: Terminology Bill Fox-- You could think of electronics as a medium rather than a musical genre. Whitney Houston and Placido Domingo both produce vocal music, right? Chick Corea and Claudio Arrau both play piano music, right? Like singing and piano playing, electronic music cuts across stylistic boundaries. Judging by the messages posted in this network, I'd say electronic music is right now much more the domain of the pop musicians than the classical avant-gardists. --Mark Simon. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 19:35:34 GMT From: Robert H Tarr Subject: Re: Terminology When someone asks me what type of music I like, I just say "Flim and the BB's" and they say "Huh?" and I smile. - harris@wpi.wpi.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 91 15:54:37 -0500 From: UUCJEFF@BOGECNVE.BITNET Subject: Microphone recommendation: Crown SASS-P OEC: I bought a Crown SASS-P stereo PZM microphone for doing locations recordings of gigs/rehearsals. In a nutshell, it is a very good mic at producing high-quality recordings. The stereo image is also very well defined, I can practically point to the location of the different drums in the drummer's set. Being omni-direction however is both an advantage and disadvantage. The advantage is not needing such a critical placement of the mics which you need for cardiods. The disadvantage is the same, if you are in a lousy room, it records the lousy room. Therefore, they will work better in rooms which are deader, and you also have to be careful of resonances. I recording in a room with a lot of bass resonances, but I should have tried it with the bass cut enabled. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 12:58:00 EDT From: TUTTEROW@UNCG.BITNET Subject: Playing by ear or Sight-reading. I am one of the unfortunant musicians who plays by music but not by ear. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Emerson, Lake, and Palmer arrangement of Aaron Copland's "Fanfare for the Common Man" The music stores here in Greensboro, NC look at me funny when I ask for music other than the current top 40. Help. Kirk. Tutterow@uncg.bitnet ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************