EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 31, Number 1 This issue's topics: Did anybody listen about this 'Peter & the Wolf' version ? (3 messages) Re: Mclaughlin/Gertu (3 messages) The Well Tempered Object? (3 messages) Re: Pocket Pedal (3 messages) Trying to find Casio FZ-1 (2 messages) MIDI to CV (3 messages) Director-S (2 messages) Sampler mailing list hey dan Y & yer mixer .SOU sounding files Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1991 09:10:00 GMT From: "Yaacov Slizak - ICTEHOL - Tel. 03-5028956" Subject: Did anybody listen about this 'Peter & the Wolf' version ? Can anyone help me ? Many years ago I listened to a Prokofieff's 'Peter and the Wolf' pop version. Among the musicians appeared Jon Anderson, Phil Collins, Ian Gillan and Klaus Voorman. I'd like to know what recording co. released it and whether it is still available. Since I'm not taking part in the list, please send any suggestions to my private Bitnet address. Thanks for your help Yaacov Slizak Center for Technological Education Holon 52 Golomb St. 58102 - Holon - Israel Bitnet : YAACOV@ILCTEHOL Tel : 972-3-5028956 Fax : 972-3-5028967 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1991 10:11:00 EDT From: SSLATER@DREW.BITNET Subject: Re: Did anybody listen about this 'Peter & the Wolf' version ? In article , "Yaacov Slizak - ICTEHOL - Tel. 03-5028956" writes: > Many years ago I listened to a Prokofieff's 'Peter and the Wolf' pop > version. Among the musicians appeared Jon Anderson, Phil Collins, Ian Gillan > and Klaus Voorman. > > I'd like to know what recording co. released it and whether it is still > available. > > Since I'm not taking part in the list, please send any suggestions to my > private Bitnet address. Actually, if anyone knows about it, please DO post it to the list! Thanx, ******************************************************************************** * Scott Slater, '93 * Genesis, Rush, Marillion, Yes, Beatles, Gabriel * * Drew U, CM 1604, POB 802 ***************************************************** * Madison, NJ 07940 * "Like the dust that settles all around me, * * SSLATER@DREW.BITNET * I must find a new home" -- Genesis, "Afterglow" * ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1991 21:45:29 GMT From: David Thomas Subject: Re: Did anybody listen about this 'Peter & the Wolf' version ? >> Many years ago I listened to a Prokofieff's 'Peter and the Wolf' pop >> version. Among the musicians appeared Jon Anderson, Phil Collins, Ian Gillan >> and Klaus Voorman. >> >Actually, if anyone knows about it, please DO post it to the list! >Thanx, I do remember a version with Phil Collins on it, but not the others you mention. The version I have features the folks who made up Brand X, plus lots of other folks. And damn I can't remember what the label is, tho I know the Bee Gees also recorded on it. There's some great stuff on this version...good fusiony/prog rock music. -David T. Champaign IL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1991 07:34:12 EDT From: "D. Yuen" Subject: Re: Mclaughlin/Gertu Johnny Mclaughlin was a great album. Wish I still had it. I lent it to a friend, who kept it forever, then when he finally returned it it was scratched beyond belief. I told him to keep it. I can still remeber the I can still remember parts of the John-Bill Cobham duo piece...ahh well. I was wondering what had happened to JM. I think I'll look for that trio album. Thanks! Dan Yuen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1991 09:03:31 GMT From: Michael Traub Subject: Re: Mclaughlin/Gertu In article <4578941@Mac.Dartmouth.EDU> Norwich.School@DARTMOUTH.EDU writes: >My cousin sent me this great tape: John McLaughlin Trio...Live at Royal >Festival Hall. Recorded in November '89. > Yes it was a good concert though our seats weren't close enough. >Great tape. Kai Eckhardt on bass, and Trilok Gurtu on percussion. I gather >he's Indian, and plays traps sitting down, bass drum with his sticks. A >friend says he was in Shakti with Mclaughlin, and is now the drummer with >Oregon, after the late Colin Wolcott. Is this true? > No, he was never in Shakti to my knowledge though he is now a regular member of Oregon. I saw him with Oregon last year, he gets just as much exposure with them as he does with McLaughlin. Oregon also do a number composed by him called Bombay something or other, forget the full name. >For my money, Mclaughlin's the best guitarist today. Speed if he needs it, >great harmonic sense, great composerm, improviser, etc. > Absolutely, reminds me of a joke I once heard. It went something along the lines of: "Eric Clapton is the greatest guitarist in the world". >On the album, he plays acoustic, and something called the Photon guitar >synthesizer...great sounds, but very natural sounding, if you know what I >mean. > We kept trying to spot the keyboard player at the concert! Brilliant sound isn't it? >Another great Mclaughlin acoustic album, of course is My Goal's Beyond when he >was in his Sri Chinmoy phase, and for electric, try Inner Mounting Flame and >Birds of Fire. I also like Johnny Mclaughlin, of about 10 years ago. > I think the best JM acoustic album is Shakti's Natural Elements, while for electric I'd recommend Visions of the Emerald Beyond as the best all time John Mclaughlin Heavy Metal Jazz album. Michael Traub BT Customer Systems, Brighton Systems Centre. traub@rtf.bt.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1991 17:48:24 -0500 From: UUCJEFF@BOGECNVE.BITNET Subject: Reply to Re: Mclaughlin/Gertu Don't forget the Tony WIlliams Lifetime (EMERGENCY) while you talk about Mac. He smokes on that. He also shows how much he is good at playing behind a soloist on Jack Johnson. Him and Miles are really good at playing together. He always knows what to play behind Miles. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1991 18:04:01 PDT From: Yon Spigot of Destiny awaits! Subject: The Well Tempered Object? Hi Folks - Has anyone read this book? Recently published by MIT press? Allegedly an overview of the application of OOP/OOA techniques to the composition of music and the manufacture of sound. casey ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1991 18:56:02 GMT From: Alden Hackmann Subject: Re: The Well Tempered Object? DUNN@INTELLICORP.COM (Yon Spigot of Destiny awaits!) writes: >Hi Folks - > Has anyone read this book? > Recently published by MIT press? > Allegedly an overview of the application of OOP/OOA techniques >to the composition of music and the manufacture of sound. >casey >------- I confess ignorance: what is OOP/OOA? A ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1991 15:36:37 PDT From: Yon Spigot of Destiny awaits! Subject: Re: The Well Tempered Object? > > >I confess ignorance: what is OOP/OOA? > >A A, OOP = Object Oriented Programming OOA = Object Oriented Analysis treating things like notes as complex data structures, ie: a note object will have some descriptive information, like pitch, as well as some functions associated with it, like 'Play'... casey ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1991 17:31:11 GMT From: GS-11 SCOTT SMITH Subject: Re: Pocket Pedal What is a pocket pedal? I'm a guitarist whose last purchase was a Rockman Sustainor to keep me happy until I buy a new TUBE amp. No, I don't midi. So please forgive my lack of knowledge on the use of computers. Please feel free to email but I would rather see this on the net to possibly save any other uninformed axmen this embarrassment. :-) Scotty ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1991 07:24:13 LCL From: Norwich.School@DARTMOUTH.EDU Subject: Re: Pocket Pedal --- Forwarded Message from GS-11 SCOTT SMITH --- What is a pocket pedal? I'm a guitarist whose last purchase was a Rockman Sustainor to keep me happy until I buy a new TUBE amp. No, I don't midi. So please forgive my lack of knowledge on the use of computers. Please feel free to email but I would rather see this on the net to possibly save any other uninformed axmen this embarrassment. :-) Scotty Scotty... I recently bought a BOSS SE-50 multieffects unit. This is a great unit that has all sorts (128) of effects, with a lot of them very useful for guitar. My main purpose in buying it was to replace my tangled, antiquated home-made pedal board that had a volume pedal, tuner, compressor, delay, and chorus. It does that very well. I can also use a simple footswitch ( I'm using the HOLD pedal from a keyboard) to cycle through differents settings, say from a REVERB+CHORUS preset, to an OVERDRIVE + DELAY. So far no MIDI. BUT...it also has the capapility of changing some of the settings as you play via MIDI control, like getting the exact delay or chorus time, simulating wah-wah, etc. What the pocket pedal can do is take the voltage from a Control Voltage (CV) pedal, a simple $25 pedal that looks like a volume pedal, and convert it toMIDI data, so that you can control any MIDI device, in this case the SE-50. I've decided to wait a bit before I buy the pocket pedal so I can learn the SE-50 itself first. Hope this is a help. Here's a bit more on the SE-50 I wrote up for someone else. Well I've had the SE-50 for about a week now, and love it. I used it at a gig Friday night and was more than happy, although I didn't use more than two or three of the settings. It has 28 "algorithms" of effects, that is different combinations of effects for different purposes. Some reverbs, delays, choruses, and some keyboard and guitar Multi effects, which are strings of effects all on one preset. The guitar Multi has a bunch, including delay, chorus, distortion, reverb, compression, and more. These 28 memory slots can not be written over. They can all be changed till you get what you want, and then saved into one of 100 other memory locations. 1-28 are just copies of the presets, so when I mess around with one of the presets and change it to something I want to keep, I just save it to one of those locations. All this and more. I got mine for $450 at my local music store. Sam Ash in New York(1-800- 472-6274) will ship you one for $430 plus shipping. As for footswitching, you have two options. You can but Roland's or another MIDI footswitch, which would give you access to all 128 memory slots, or you can just hook up a simple keyboard "hold" pedal or something similiar, and just cycle through whichever patches you might need. You can adjust the range of this switch so that you can cycle through just a few presets if you want. I recommend this unit a lot. Much more than I will ever use at the cost of a few cheap pedals. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1991 08:23:00 EDT From: RAY BROHINSKY Subject: Re: Pocket Pedal Scotty, The pocket Pedal is a small box (like real small) that allows inserting MIDI controller events into a midi stream. This means that you have to have a midi stream: a midi controller, connected by a midi cable to another midi device, which is being controlled. An example useful to an axeman would be a Yamaha G10 midi guitar controller connected to a Yamaha Tx81Z rack-mount synth. The cable is removed from one device, plugged into the pocket pedal, and another cable goes from the pedal to the device just unplugged. Then, you can plug an on-off pedal and a voltage-control (kinda like a volume pedal, and some volume pedals will also make voltage) pedal into the pocket pedal, and set the pocket pedal to choose what those pedals will control. Thus, if you don't have a sustain (I know, the G10 does, but just say you don't) and you want the mod wheel to change while your hands are busy, you can set the on-off pedal to the controller number for sustain, and set the voltage pedal to the controller number for Mod Wheel (which on synths, usually controlls the amount of low frequency oscillator that is applied to simulate vibrato, but may be programmed for other uses!). This allows controlling things with pedals that might require a third and fourth hand. It only works for midi, though, so until you get into midi, you might just want to file the info. Midi stuff that guitarists might be interested in (other than guitar controllers and synths) are effects boxes like the QuadraVerb. Special effects like Leslie can have the rotation speed controlled by ModWheel. Hope that helps. Keep picking! raybro *** Nieder mit den Tueten! Freiheit fuer Gummibaerchen! *** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1991 17:10:00 EDT From: DJB85@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Subject: Trying to find Casio FZ-1 I heard that some mail order hardware supplier has bought up the stock of discontinued Casio FZ-1s. Can anyone give me information about this? Need address, phone number, etc. You might reply directly to me, in order not to clutter up the list with matters otherwise irrelevant. My address is DJB85@ALBNYVMS.BITNET. THANKS IN ADVANCE. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1991 13:44:41 EDT From: Philip Galanter Subject: Re: Trying to find Casio FZ-1 I too would be interested in this...could you forward any info you get? Thanks, Phil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1991 12:31:00 EDT From: wbf@CBEMA.ATT.COM Subject: MIDI to CV Has anybody heard about the Retro, made by Clarity in Garrison, New York? I have two micromoogs (I own one) and a multimoog in my studio which I'd like to put under sequencer control. Does Clarity have any competition? Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1991 14:48:13 EDT From: "D. Yuen" Subject: Clarity Bill I know the Serge Modular Synth people reccomend clarity for interfacing their CV stuff to MIDI, but I was never able to get any more info than that. If you could post any info you get it would be appreciated. Dan Yuen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1991 08:28:00 EDT From: wbf@CBEMA.ATT.COM Subject: Re: MIDI to CV Hi All, Per Dan Yuen's request, here's what I know so far... The Clarity Retro has eight outputs; four do 0 to 10 volts and four do 0 to 7 volts "for optimal tracking/octave" according to Greg at Clarity. It costs $595.00 and is only available directly from the factory. Clarity claims to be the most sophisticated device of its type in terms of how robust it is with controller numbers. It has 32 programs and a table to map them to specific program change commands. Each program holds 16 patches, although I'm not sure exactly what this means. Clarity's policy is a two week full refund for any reason. (The sky had a cloud in it today - send it back!) It is descended from the Clarity XLV which was reviewed in the May 1987 MIX and in KEYBOARD (anybody know what issue?). Their phones are (914) 424-4071 voice and (914) 424-3467 FAX. Bill Fox ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1991 14:39:00 CST From: Jason Keeler Subject: Director-S Well people, it seems I'm off to Calgary for 4 months on a work-term and unfortunately, I won't be able to take my computer (along with Master Tracks Pro) with me. I've been pondering a few sequencing solutions for some time now. One idea I came up with was purchasing the Director-S software for my S-330. Does anyone have any experience with this? All I need it for is to drive my M1 and S-330. I mostly do commercial dance/hip hop style music and therefore a pattern-based approach is fine with me. Thanx, Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1991 09:03:00 EDT From: wbf@CBEMA.ATT.COM Subject: Director-S > From: Jason Keeler > > Well people, it seems I'm off to Calgary for 4 months on a work-term and > unfortunately, I won't be able to take my computer (along with Master > Tracks Pro) with me. I've been pondering a few sequencing solutions for > some time now. One idea I came up with was purchasing the Director-S > software for my S-330. Does anyone have any experience with this? All > I need it for is to drive my M1 and S-330. I mostly do commercial dance/hip > hop style music and therefore a pattern-based approach is fine with me. > > Thanx, Jason. Hi Jason, I use Director-S on my S-550 which, as you already know, is a pattern based sequencer. For portability sake, I do ALL of my sequencing on it so I don't have to drag a computer to gigs. (The sampler is already in a road case.) The only limitation it has that bothers me is that you are limited to 300 events per pattern. To get around it, you have to make rather short patterns of two to four measures whenever the orchestration starts getting thicker than drums, bass, and piano. When I have pitch bend or other data in a pattern, I have to manually thin it by deleting events to conserve space within that pattern. But on the whole, I do some pretty good work using Director-S. If you want to throw in a 9/8 measure in the middle of a 4/4 piece, no problem. (Sure helps when doing Beatles! I've got a kick-*** "Here Comes the Sun." And for Pink Floyd's "Money," not only is it in 7/4 (most of the time) but I even have the cash register loop in STEREO! (Neat trick on a MONO sampler.) Have you joined the sgroup mailing list? It's for Roland sampler users by Roland sampler users. We even have a librarian (in NJ) who has my stereo sample. By the way, you definitely need a monitor to use Director-S. Do you have one connected to your S-330? Bill Fox ----------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1991 13:03:18 EDT From: Brian Adamson Subject: Sampler mailing list Bill, You mentioned the Roland sampler users group. How can I find out more about it. Although I don't have a Roland sampler, I do have a KORG sampler, Digidesign SoundTools, and I think I'm going to buy an Ensoniq sampler any day now. I would be interested in exchanging samples in the SoundTools file format or AIFF or whatever a sampler mailing list might use for a sample file format (If you have heard of a list not limited to a single brand of samplers, that would be interesting). Thanks, Brian Adamson adamson@itd.nrl.navy.mil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1991 12:51:36 PDT From: Yon Spigot of Destiny awaits! Subject: hey dan Y & yer mixer Dan Y: could you be a bit more specific about 'tied'? I've a problem with my setup that somthing like what you described would fixem up. in in in out jack jack jack jack res res res somthing like this? I can solder... casey ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1991 23:23:41 C From: Humberto Jose' Bortolossi Subject: .SOU sounding files First of all, excuse-me if you're receiving two or more copies of this mail. I found in the subdirectory /msdos/sound/ of MSDOS.ARCHIVE.UMICH.EDU (anonymous FTP) a lot of .SOU files. I would like to know if there is a public domain program to play these files. Could you help me, please? Thanks a lot, in advance. Humberto Jose' Bortolossi BITNET: HJBORTOL at BRFUEM ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************