EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 32, Number 6 This issue's topics: Radio series available inquiry about ROLAND Studio-M (3 messages) M1 upgrade question... (3 messages) ZETA INSTRUMENTS Software synthesis (3 messages) Cakewalk help needed (4 messages) Kurzweil K2000 (3 messages) Roland Sound Canvas: Comments? Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1991 09:13:03 CDT From: Joseph Fosco Subject: Radio series available For anyone who might be looking for new music to broadcast on the radio. The Experimental Sound Studio in Chicago has produced a series of 23 half hour radio programs of experimental music by Chicago artists (most of the music involves electronics in some way). The series is entitled "Sounds From Chicago", and is available FREE to any radio station wishing to air it. If you are interested, please email me and I will make sure further information is sent to you. In addition to your email address be sure to include your regular postal address. By the way, broadcast rights for all the music in the series have been secured. Joseph Fosco Internet:b38669@anlvm.ctd.anl.gov Bitnet: b38669@anlvm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1991 21:38:00 EDT From: Johnny Gunn - Aviator To Be Subject: inquiry about ROLAND Studio-M All, I saw an advertisement in the latest issue for a new Roland product called 'STUDIO M'. Has anyone seen, played, or bought this new piece of equipment? Also, does anyone have any knowledge about the Roland MC-50 Micro- composer, and the Alesis Midiverb III? Please respond either directly or thru the Digest. Thanks!! John Gunson S3LMJMG@SAE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1991 10:59:00 EDT From: RAY BROHINSKY Subject: Re: inquiry about ROLAND Studio-M >...Midiverb III? ***warning: the following contains personal bias!*** I recently was asked about the MidiverbIII by a friend who's keyboard teacher had told her that, although her Korg M1 sounded fine, she needed a MVIII for her roland piano. I heighed mysel' to the local music store, and checked it out. I own a QuadraVerb+, which I use on my guitar, and I'd wanted to get a reverb box for the general rest-of-the-mix. I like Alesis' stuff, and have used a micro-limiter on both of my guitars (one through each channel) for as long as I've had the QV. It was my determination that both she and I would profit more from the MicroVerbII, for the following reasons: Unless you need to change the reverb level drastically in a live setting, MIDI control of a reverb box is just too much hassle. Especially taken that she didn't have a sequencer that would control the reverb seperately, and I just wanted something for Ambience. Secondly, the microverbII gives 5db more headroom from noise (-85DB vs -80dB). I do mostly acoustic/folk and a little rock, so I need noise as low as possible. She does everything in her living-room. We both record, so low noise is also a factor. Third, the 256 choices in the midiverbIII were too much and not enough. The 16 choices in the microverbII were more general-purpose. I've programmed the QV by hand, and it's a lot to do for a minimal return--- the presets are pretty good for a lot of purposes. She will never learn to program the MV... to a level that would justify getting a machine with all those settings. (She has a life time to face the M1, fer heaven's sakes!) Fourth, the cost. The MVIII is pretty close in cost to the QV where I looked at it. The QV has more functionality, is on a parity with noise levels, and suffers the same cutoff of effect when you change channels as the MVIII, so if I were gonna dump that much $$ on a reverb box, I'd go with the QV. Sad Prolog to the story: I told her this information, and she told me to get her a microverbII if I could get it for under 200 bucks. I went back to the store and bought two for $175 each. When I called her and told her about it, she told me that she'd `forgot' to talk to her husband about it, and was on her way to her local store to trade in her old korg and ensonique stuff, and to see what she could get. She later called me back, and told me that she'd dumped lots more money on a midiverbIII (``because that's what my teacher has'') and also had dumped twice the money on a roland drum machine that she'd have spent on an SR16. The long and short of it was and is, you'll get what you want, whether it's (hopefully) because you like the sound and can put up with the interface, or `because that's what my teacher has'. raybro *** Nieder mit den Tueten! Freiheit fuer Gummibaerchen! *** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1991 09:46:03 PDT From: "camadm::morley"@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA Subject: Re: inquiry about ROLAND Studio-M Hello John... I recently purchased the Roland MV-30 (Studio M) and boy, is it a blast! For those that don't know, the Studio M is a multi-timbral sound module and 16 track sequencer/mixer all rolled in to one. The first eight tracks of the sequencer are used to control eight internal sound sources, while the other eight tracks can be used to control external sources. The sequencer also allows you to record real-time panning and mixing through its bank of faders. There is also an effects unit built in (reverb, chorus, and flange effects) The sounds that this thing can produce are excellent (It comes stock with 8 loadable banks of sounds, 128 sounds per bank (some dupes)). It takes up to two cards at a time, both its own MV series cards and the U series cards. The machine is very similar to the D-70 in the sounds that it produces. If you ever get a chance to see one, ask to hear the awesome demo songs that it comes with - you'll be blown away. The sequencer allows up to 50,000 events of data (notes, patch changes, etc) per song, but with a memory upgrade, it can handle 150,000 events (I think). It has a 3 1/2" disk drive that is capable of reading and writing standard MIDI files from/to Atari, IBM PC, Macintosh, etc. formatted disks. There is a "chain play" mode where you can create a list of up to 99 songs and have the machine load and play each one in sequence - great for background music or live sets. One of the neatest features that it has is called RPS or Real Time Phrasing. This feature allows you to create up to 20 sequenced "segments" (of any length) and assign each segment to any key on your keyboard. Then the sequence can be played back at the touch of single key! The demo for RPS that comes with the unit is fantastic! The only thing that some people might really object to is that the operating system must be loaded from a floppy disk each time the unit is powered on (as opposed to having the OS in ROM). This means that it takes about 1-2 minutes before it's ready to play, but on the other hand, it allows Roland to easily upgrade the OS... There are many more features, subtle and otherwise, but I'm starting to sound like a Roland salesman, so I think I'll stop now... Mark Morley Victoria, BC, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1991 13:33:00 EDT From: "John Young, Southern CT State Univ" Subject: M1 upgrade question... Does anyone know exactly what the M1 upgrade does for it? Does it just upgrade the number of samples or does it also increase the number of programs/combinations you can have also? Has anyone had this done? Any idea how much it costs? Thanks in advance... John Young Southern CT State University bitnet%"YOUNG@CTSTATEU" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1991 14:03:28 EDT From: Patrick Robinson Subject: Re: M1 upgrade question... >Does anyone know exactly what the M1 upgrade does for it? Does it >just upgrade the number of samples or does it also increase the number >of programs/combinations you can have also? Has anyone had this done? I understood that it just added the additional ROM of the T-series. No Op-Sys changes. >Any idea how much it costs? nope... sorry. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1991 14:40:00 EDT From: Mario Vergona Subject: Re: M1 upgrade question... hi, In addition to adding more sounds, I believe that it also upgrades/ corrects a number of things people complained about when using the sequencer. It makes it an M1rex. Give a music store a call, or call the korg 800 info line for all the details. m ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 07:18:12 EDT From: "Schmidt,Rodney" Subject: ZETA INSTRUMENTS Has anyone had any experience with ZETA string controllors? They offer a string quartet. Also, what is the best way to get in touch with them? I only have an old phone number that doesn't seem to work. Thanks for the help! *Please respond to me directly.* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1991 20:20:00 -0300 From: UEBRU@BRFAPESP.BITNET Subject: Software synthesis I study synthesis of musical tones, I desired know address eletronic of software public this area (synthesis of musical tones). Thank you very much. Nando Marar Depto Computer Science UNESP-SAO PAULO - BRASIL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 08:17:49 -0700 From: Tom Erbe Try bv@ems.media.mit.edu (Barry Vercoe). He has written a software package called Csound, which should address your needs. It runs on UNIX machines and on the macintosh. If you have ftp, you can retreive the software directly from ems.media.mit.edu (anonymous login). good luck, Tom Erbe * Technical Director * Center for Contemporary Music * Mills College tom@mills.edu * Mills College, Oakland, CA 94613 * (510) 430-2191 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 12:42:14 EDT From: David Rosenbaum Subject: Re: I need... Also check out cmix, available by anonymous ftp from princeton.edu. DR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 09:44:50 PDT From: Douglas Scott Subject: Re: I need... Concerning the reference to grabbing cmix to use for research: Be aware that cmix, though it is an incredible collection of software, and can be extremely useful, is not for the faint-of-heart in terms of programming. I would not recommend it unless you have a strong background in Unix and some knowledge of C. Douglas Scott (805)893-8352 Center for Computer Music Research and Composition University of California, Santa Barbara Internet: (NeXTMail ok) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 11:49:47 EDT From: Daniel Dion Subject: Cakewalk help needed I need help with cakewalk. Let's say I have a track (melody) and I want a hit of snare on every note without changing the name of the note by hand(one by one). Any suggestions I read the doc but can't find any thing. I have to send the track through channel 10. If I had the possibility of sending the melody on chan 1 and assign a snare drum to that channel, I would not have to ask that question. Thanks =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Daniel Dion University of Ottawa / Universite d'Ottawa (613) 564-5903 DXD0N@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1991 08:40:30 CDT From: Kevin Remde subject: Re: HELP ME! (Cakewalk) Dan Dion writes: > > Let's say I have a track (melody) and I want a hit of snare on every note > without changing the name of the note by hand(one by one). Any suggestions The Edit/Interpolate function is what you want. Select the track and/or range you want to change, and start the interpolate. You get the 'search criteria' screen. You can leave the first one alone, or else simply leave "[X] Note" checked with the complete range of notes (c0 to c9) as the min and max. When you hit Okay (or Enter), you get a second 'replacements' screen. Now, change the range of notes to be the ONE note value you want (the drum note value) as both the Min and Max. Hit Okay (or Enter), and that'll do it. Oh, you may want to copy the track first, of course, if you wanted to keep the melody track playing. You can also change the channel during the same two above steps, just by changing the values in the two "Y:Chan" boxes. Good luck. ______________________________________________________________________________ Kevin A. Remde remde@ncrons.StPaul.NCR.COM NCR Network Products Group St. Paul, Minnesota USA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1991 21:34:25 GMT From: John Benfield Subject: Re: HELP ME! In article , DXD0N@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA (Daniel Dion) writes: > I need help with cakewalk. > > Let's say I have a track (melody) and I want a hit of snare on every note > without changing the name of the note by hand(one by one). Any suggestions > I read the doc but can't find any thing. I have to send the track through > channel 10. If I had the possibility of sending the melody on chan 1 and > assign a snare drum to that channel, I would not have to ask that question. If I understand your question properly, all you have to do is do a global transposition on the track assigned to channel 10. I'm pretty sure that even the 'low-end' version of Cakewalk allows you to do that. Also, you can assign a snare to channel 1 if your synth supports a good keyboard split. Just assign the snare to the lowest note on the keyboard, transpose your drum track and merge it with the track for channel 1. I'm assuming that you're using a Roland if you're feeling forced into the 'channel 10' blues, but that can be easily changed at the synth module. (I have a feeling that I may be missing the true problem. This is pretty basic stuff which is all documented in the manuals.) Feel free to email or call directly if I can help. > > Thanks > Daniel Dion ______Opinions stated are my own. Transcripts available by request______ === =--==== AT&T Canada Inc. John Benfield =----==== 3650 Victoria Park Ave. Network Support Analyst (MIS) =----==== Suite 800 ==--===== Willowdale, Ontario attmail : ~jbenfield ======= M2H-3P7 email : uunet!attcan!john === (416) 756-5221 Compu$erve: 72137,722 ____Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines._____ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 11:32:38 CST From: Bernardino Torres Subject: Help me ! Hello, i am a student in Computer Sciences in the Instituto Tecnologico y de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey in San Luis Potosi, S.L.P., Mexico and i like electronic music, but i don't have any equipment for composing music, i have a IBM personal computer and i need you to recommend me about different option for buying software and hardware. Thanks you. Bernardino Torres. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 14:26:32 EDT From: "Joseph D. McMahon" Subject: Re: Help me ! > > Hello, i am a student in Computer Sciences in the Instituto Tecnologico > y de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey in San Luis Potosi, S.L.P., Mexico and > i like electronic music, but i don't have any equipment for composing > music, i have a IBM personal computer and i need you to recommend me about > different option for buying software and hardware. > Bernardino, what kind of music do you want to do? are you planning to perform live, or only record at home? Do you want to write your own music or perform from scores/ Do you want to play at all, or just hand-enter the music? Do you want to imitate existing instruments, or synthesize your own sounds? How much can you afford to spend? --- Joe M. > > Thanks you. > > Bernardino Torres. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 15:00:59 EST From: Jon Crystal Subject: Kurzweil K2000 Does anyone have the inside scoop on the K2000? Certainly sounds impressive on the cover, and the price ($3,000) is lower than I would have thought. Is it as revolutionary as the ads pretend? Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 19:47:00 GMT From: Eric McCormick <0004775674@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: (Forwarded) Kurzweil K2000 It sounds impressive indeed. 8MB of onboard RAM, 24 voices (with up to 3 oscillators per voice.) As I understand it, you can use 1 to 3 oscillators per voice and that does not effect the number of output voices (24). There is an optional board that allows digital ins/outs. Imagine grabbing samples from a CD player with digital outs with no signal loss whatsoever. Also onboard are digital effects (I don't know the specifics) and several ways to create sounds (synthesis) without using samples. This is all from memory so please don't take this all as gospel. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | |\/\/\/| | | | | Eric McCormick | | | | Programmer/Analyst | | | (*)(-) MCI Telecommunications | | C _) (703) 415-6424 | | | ,___|____. . | | | / . | | /____\ . | | / \ . | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1991 11:31:07 +0000 From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: (Forwarded) Kurzweil K2000 >It sounds impressive indeed. 8MB of onboard RAM, 24 voices (with up to 3 >oscillators per voice.) As I understand it, you can use 1 to 3 oscillators >per voice and that does not effect the number of output voices (24). Unfortunately, this doesn't say anything about the voice architecture, programming versatility, and so on. I'm not a fan of sample players, although thr K-series machines did sound pretty impressive. If I owned one, I'd get bored with it pretty quickly. >Also onboard are digital effects (I don't know the specifics) and several ways >to create sounds (synthesis) without using samples. Ah, OK. This is the potentially interesting stuff. Only potentially, mind you. I wonder if this machine will ever appear on this side of the Atlantic? Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1991 21:51:57 GMT From: John Benfield Subject: Roland Sound Canvas: Comments? Is anybody out there doing any 'real' work with the new Roland Sound Canvas? I had my first exposure to one at a local computer show and though it lacked a lot of flexibility, it did have the redeeming feature of being cheap as dirt (relatively speaking) for pretty decent sound quality. Any comments/experiences? ______Opinions stated are my own. Transcripts available by request______ === =--==== AT&T Canada Inc. John Benfield =----==== 3650 Victoria Park Ave. Network Support Analyst (MIS) =----==== Suite 800 ==--===== Willowdale, Ontario attmail : ~jbenfield ======= M2H-3P7 email : uunet!attcan!john === (416) 756-5221 Compu$erve: 72137,722 ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************