EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 34, Issue 12 This issue's topics: Miscellaneous Classical Music EMUSIC-L Rules Nick got published (3 messages) Some humor (was: Creating, then composing.) WAKEMAN (4 messages) Software and Hardware Problems... (3 messages) Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1991 18:31:00 GMT From: Eric McCormick <0004775674@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Classical Music >RE: classical emusic > > I've begun to be interested in sequencing classical music using a few > synthed sounds mixed in with normal acoustic stuff. I've heard plenty > of all emusic classical music: does anybody know any references to music > that blends aoustic classical with synths (recordings, artists, or books)? > >Thanks - >... rick One group that comes to mind right away is Mannheim Steamroller. Check out their "Fresh Aire" collection volumes I through VII. They also have some special collections of their own version of Christmas Music. Check out Mannheim Steamroller Christmas, and a Fresh Aire Christmas. Both have some neat arrangements of Christmas music featuring both acoustic and synthesized instruments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1991 18:10:11 EST From: "Joseph D. McMahon" Subject: EMUSIC-L Rules I will post these rules either once a month or when things start to get out of hand. Welcome to the list. I'd just like to add a few things to the message which is sent out to all new users as to rules and regulations for this list. 1) Ads are strictly not allowed by BITNet rules. No ads. None. Nada. 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Now, let's get back to e-music! --- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1991 13:35:33 EST From: Patrick Robinson Subject: Nick got published Hey, Nick... I saw your letter-to-the-editor in Keyboard. Good job. So, do you win a T-shirt, or anything? :-) -Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1991 14:29:40 +0000 From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Nick got published >Hey, Nick... >I saw your letter-to-the-editor in Keyboard. Good job. Oh. Did I get published? I get KEYBOARD surface-mail, so I'll probably not see this for weeks. I presume it was the thing about flash photography in concerts. Hope it brought the point across, anyway (viz. that flash photography is *not* a harmless pursuit as Milano suggested but actually very distracting to performers and it's outlawed in venues for very good reasons). >So, do you win a T-shirt, or anything? :-) Didn't get anything when my last letter (about InnovArt) got printed... Nick. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1991 08:55:25 EST From: Patrick Robinson Subject: Re: Nick got published >>Hey, Nick... >>I saw your letter-to-the-editor in Keyboard. Good job. > >Oh. Did I get published? I get KEYBOARD surface-mail, so I'll probably not >see this for weeks. I presume it was the thing about flash photography in >concerts. Hope it brought the point across, anyway (viz. that flash >photography is *not* a harmless pursuit as Milano suggested but actually >very distracting to performers and it's outlawed in venues for very good >reasons). Yeah, it was the flash photography thing, and *did* get the point across. >>So, do you win a T-shirt, or anything? :-) > >Didn't get anything when my last letter (about InnovArt) got printed... Ah, well... I didn't really expect that you would. -Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1991 10:01:14 TZONE From: Bryan Basham Subject: Some humor (was: Creating, then composing.) Hello EMUSIC-L netters, I thought I would play USO host during our last cease-fire on the computer war to bring a quick little joke. The following statements reminded me of an old hackers definition. > but if I have to spend all my time doing something, the twisting the > harmony is more interesting than twiddling the oscillators. Frobnicate, v.: To manipulate or adjust, to tweak. Derived from FROBNITZ. Usually abbreviated to FROB. Thus one has the saying "to frob a frob". See TWEAK and TWIDDLE. Usage: FROB, TWIDDLE, and TWEAK sometimes connote points along a continuum. FROB connotes aimless manipulation; TWIDDLE connotes gross manipulation, often a coarse search for a proper setting; TWEAK connotes fine-tuning. If someone is turning a knob on an oscilloscope, then if he's carefully adjusting it he is probably tweaking it; if he is just turning it but looking at the screen he is probably twiddling it; but if he's just doing it because turning a knob is fun, he's frobbing it. > I have to > admit that I do somethings turn a knob and make a sound that just > *demands* a composition, ... Bill here is definitely, frobbing the knob! ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1991 12:19:33 EDT From: "Pete H." Subject: WAKEMAN OK fellow keyboarders, Who of you can name the most Rick Wakeman albums? I need to complete my collection, but just don't know exactley how many are out there! Mail to the list OR to me at Hagemepp@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu Thanks is advance! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1991 21:05:50 GMT From: "Joseph L. Procopio" Subject: Re: WAKEMAN In article HAGEMEPP@DUVM.BITNET (Pete H.) writes: Who of you can name the most Rick Wakeman albums? I need to complete my collection, but just don't know exactley how many are out there! I'm not sure about all that exist, but I have : Journey to the Center of the Earth The Six Wives of Henry the Eighth (IMHO the best Wakeman album) The Myths and Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table Criminal Record ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1991 13:26:02 EST From: JSMOR@CONNCOLL.BITNET Subject: Re: WAKEMAN I don't know of a complete list of Wakeman's solo albums, but I do know that he has recorded well over 20. Most of them are not distributed in the U.S., and Rick is aware of this. I had the chance to speak with him briefly after an ABWH show two years ago, and he said that he was trying to work out a deal that would get his records into stores on this side of the Atlantic. It seems that he hasn't made much progress as yet. Sorry that I couldn't be more helpful. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1991 20:16:13 GMT From: Eddie Mikell Subject: Re: WAKEMAN I also have (had) one of Wakeman's Movie soundtracks - White Rock - I believe was the title. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1991 09:48:49 EST From: Larry Larraga Subject: Wakeman Discography >From the Yes Mailing List Digest _Notes from the Edge_: 1) The Six Wives of Henry VIII 1973 2) Journey to the Centre of the Earth 1974 3) The Myths and Legends of King Arthur and the 1975 Knights of the Round Table 4) Lizstomania 1975 5) No Earthly Connection 1976 6) White Rock 1977 7) Criminal Record 1977 8) Rhapsodies 1979 9) 1984 1981 10) The Burning 1981 11) Rock -n- Roll Prophet 1982 12) Cost of living 1983 13) G'ole' 1983 14) Black Nights in the Court of Ferdinand IV 1984 15) Silent Nights 1985 16) Live at Hammersmith 1985 17) Country Airs 1986 18) Crimes of Passion 1986 19) The Gospels 1987 20) The Family Album 1987 21) Zodiaque 1988 22) A Suite of Gods 1988 23) Time Machine 1988 24) Sea Airs 1989 25) Night Airs 1990 26) Phantom Power 1990 27) Aspirant Sunrise 1991 28) Aspirant Sunset 1991 29) Aspirant Shadows 1991 30) Suntrilogy 1991 31) The Classical Connection 1991 32) 2000 A.D. Into the Future 1991 33) African Bach 1991 34) Beyond the Planets 1991 35) Softsword (King John and the Magna Charter) 1991 36) Private Collection 1991 37) In the Beginning 1991?? Prolific, eh? -- Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1991 20:34:58 CST From: Charles Boohaker Subject: Software and Hardware Problems... Hello, all... I am new to the MIDI world, and as a newcomer, I am having problems with my sequencing and editting software, and possibly the hardware along with it. Here is my problem... I have an IBM PS/2 computer with a Roland MPU-IMC card. The MIDI box that comes with the package has 2 MIDI out ports and 1 MIDI in port. I also have Voyetra's Sequencer (GOLD) and Sound Quest's MIDI Quest. Here are my problems... First of all, the biggest problem that I would like to solve is the editting package, Midi Quest. Every time that I enter the program, everything appears to work fine. However, upon leaving the program, my computer goes into fits. I tried the DOS version, and it sent my hard drive into a spinning infinity. I called the company in Canada about 5 times, and they sent different copies of Metashell to me, but still that didn't help (Metashell is the graphics environment that it runs under, sorta like windows). After about a half a year, they traded out the DOS version for the Window's version and still it didn't work. This time, I could exit the program, but then I couldn't reenter any other program without the screen blanking and the keys blinking. Most of the time I couldn't even warm boot the computer; I would have to flip the on-off switch to get control of my computer back. I tried all different kinds of autoexec files and congif.sys setups, but nothing seemed to correct the problem. That's problem number one. The second problem is with either the Midi Card or the Sequencing software... (Hopefully, it's just me). I can access the second out port on the MPU-IMC box with the Voyetra sequencer. I am at a loss here too. Can anyone help me fix my situation? I have had this stuff for almost a year now, and I can't get any of these problems corrected. Hopefully, it's just something simple that I have overlooked, because I really like this software. What might the solution be (outside of getting a new computer or a new port)? Does anyone know??? Appreciatively, Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1991 09:49:03 CST From: Charles Boohaker Subject: Re: Software and Hardware Problems... On Mon, 25 Nov 1991 08:09:29 est Rick Duffy said: >RE: Midi quest > > I'm not sure what your're problem is: I ran Midi Quest for a while > under DOS and didn't have any problems. Have you tried a straight DOS > version under a straight DOS OS? Also, I've seen similar weird things > happen under does when working with extended and expanded memory. I don't > know much about the PS/2 (does it run OS/2?), but I've seen some problems > fixed by experimenting with the DOS memory driver config directives. You > might > try (if your running ext or exp memory) unconfiguring your system for the > extra > mem just to see what happens. Thanks for the reply... Yes... I tried running the DOS version under the DOS system, no Windows or Expanded/Extended memory invoked, and still there are problems. I just wonder if it is having a compatibilty problem with the IMC card that I am using. (Supposedly, most of the PS/2 's were made to run OS/2, but DOS is cheaper to run). I tried all kinds of configurations, including none, and still it does not work. I am just at a loss... Thanks, Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1991 08:09:29 est From: Rick Duffy Subject: Re: Software and Hardware Problems... RE: Midi quest I'm not sure what your're problem is: I ran Midi Quest for a while under DOS and didn't have any problems. Have you tried a straight DOS version under a straight DOS OS? Also, I've seen similar weird things happen under does when working with extended and expanded memory. I don't know much about the PS/2 (does it run OS/2?), but I've seen some problems fixed by experimenting with the DOS memory driver config directives. You might try (if your running ext or exp memory) unconfiguring your system for the extra mem just to see what happens. RE: ... I'm exploring ways to do things with my emusic setup, so I think it'd be great to hear any suggestions (imaginative, basic, novel, psychotic, etc) on ways to do things. For example, I've tried playing things with the keyboard mapped backwards, and it still sounds pretty good! Also, I've loaded patches on one sound thing, an triggered them from the rythm machine on another sound thing - the pathces on sound thing 1 were "female voices", and with the tempo slow, It sounded so neat I wrote a requiem for a friend who just turned 40 (I lose a lot of friends this way). I'm sure there are a few hundred manmillenias of ideas out there. RE: classical emusic I've begun to be interested in sequencing classical music using a few synthed sounds mixed in with normal acoustic stuff. I've heard plenty of all emusic classical music: does anybody know any references to music that blends aoustic classical with synths (recordings, artists, or books)? Thanks - ... rick rick@maxai.den.mmc.com ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************