EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 39, Issue 01 This issue's topics: CV/gate and other analog interfacing Moog Liberation and MIDI (12 messages) Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1992 08:13:39 EDT From: "D. Yuen" Subject: Moog Liberation and MIDI Hi Two Things: Can some one post or mail me the e-mail address for the listserv or admin of REC.MUS(IC?).SYNTH or direct me to the archive that contains it? Thanks. I'm yuen@nadc.navy.mil Second does anybody know of a CV to MIDI converter other than the PAIA gizmo. I want to hook a Moog Liberation up to MIDI. Thanks again. Dan Y ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1992 11:26:07 -0400 From: Robert Doyle Subject: cv-midi Dan Yuen asked about CV - MIDI... The Roland MPU-101 goes MIDI - CV, they are not made anymore, if you find one get it, if you do not want it write me. The JLCooper FaderMaster is a CV - MIDI if you get inside of it, the mod is not a big deal. If anyone is interested let me know. rdoyle@brock1p.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1992 14:01:07 EDT From: Eirikur Hallgrimsson 20-Apr-1992 1400 Subject: Re: REC.MUS.SYNTH and CV The premier unit, the Retro, from Clarity (wedge-shaped table top unit) is on sale for 495, down from 595 until May 20. I have their number somewhere. Eirikur ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1992 19:25:56 MDT From: Adam Schabtach Subject: Re: cv-midi > The JLCooper FaderMaster is a CV - > MIDI if you get inside of it, the mod is not a big deal. If anyone is > interested let me know. I'm interested. --Adam schabtac@stout.atd.ucar.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1992 23:53:07 EDT From: SHERYL BRANHAM Subject: Re: cv-midi I'm very interested in it too (the cv) or if you know of any shematics for building one. Thanks O ? O /|\ /|\ /|\ ? / \ ? SHERYL BRANHAM SDBCC@CUNYVM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1992 07:27:39 EDT From: "D. Yuen" Subject: Re: REC.MUS.SYNTH and CV Eirikur, I was under the impression the clarity goes MIDI to CV + GATE. What I would *like* would be to go CV + GATE to MIDI. What I need isn't all that sophisticated. Basically on the MIDI side just a note on note value, and a velocity. The velocity would probably have to be a set value anyway. Also I don't want to spend a lot of money on the converter the Liberation only cost me $300. I'm trying to get a CHEAP "strap on" controller going. Aftertouch and Mod I can do via pedals, and hopefully the converter would do Pitch Bend as well as part of the CV in data. The PAIA unit would do what I want. It may be a bit more powerful then I need, and frankly my experiances with PAIA in the past do not inspire my confidence in them as a company. Sometimes I get this crazy longing to get OUT from behind my keyboard rack. I may just let it go till I can get more cash and do things properly. Dan Y ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1992 08:41:00 EST From: wbf@CBEMA.ATT.COM Subject: CV -> MIDI or MIDI -> CV Hi Dan Y., I almost answered your posting but stopped when I found that the information I was about to send to you was a response to your wanting information about the Clarity Retro. At that point I got confused and stopped. If you already knew about MIDI to CV from before, then your latest question must be about CV to MIDI. Since I had no information to send, I shut up. (A first!) It seems that you wish to make a controller out of your old analog Moog. Why? If its controllable by MIDI via the Retro, you probably have a good controller somewhere in your rig (besides a sequencer). Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1992 11:55:17 -0700 From: Darren Gibbs Subject: RE: Whoa! Stop! CV - MIDI! There is already an Anatek "Pocket Pedal" that will take both a standard expression pedal and an stomp switch in, and convert each to any of 4 MIDI controller messages. It is a very hip box for 90 bucks but is not a cv->MIDI-note-number kind of arrangement. darren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1992 12:01:58 EDT From: "D. Yuen" Subject: Whoa! Stop! CV - MIDI! Hi, Wait Bill. The MOOG Liberation is a strap on controller with CV out only. I use it hooked into a Yamamha CS-20m. Now the CS-20 has CV + Trig in and out, but the Libbie only has out. It is one of the few Moog devices NOT reccomended (SP) for a MIDI to CV retro fit. Which isn't what I want to do anyway. The CS-20 is a beast. Made of plywood and steel plate etc. Lots of knobs. Something like Yam's answer to the Minimoog. The Lib is heavy (14lbs) and fits into a travel case w/ it's inter face that is about 6 ft long. Well, close to 6 ft. Totaled together they're REAl heavy and a mess to port around, just them alone. But I like the Lib and one day while noodling around I thought "Gee, here is this nifty controller, if I could make it go MIDI out, I could hook it to some nice LIGHT, SMALL, etc. MIDI keyboards and gosh, wouldn't that be fun?" But I don't want to spend a lot of money to do it. $400 is too much. What I need is a fairly unsophisticted device. One note CV in, one gate CV in and MIDI Note on and value, Velocity, and I'm happy. I think I can interface it into an Atari ST fairly easily and that would be a nice open architecture way to be real creative w/ MIDI out strings. Someone also mentioned modifying a JL Cooper Fademaster. What I was hoping for was a nice sort of "Anatek Pocket CV to MIDI" $85.00 kinda deal. But it seems unlikely, and in an effort to save a buck, if there was such a thing I don't know now that it would really do what I would REALLY REALLY want to do with a remote MIDI controller if I had one. So for now I'll just hide behind my "A" frame stand, and on occasion peek out around the sides of it when I can. Thanks for the suggestions. I would still like to hear more on the JL Cooper mod if you want to post it. Dan Y ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1992 14:46:58 EDT From: Eirmkur Hallgrmmsson 21-Apr-1992 1447 Subject: RE: Whoa! Stop! CV - MIDI! > What I was hoping for was a nice sort of "Anatek Pocket CV to MIDI" $85.00 > kinda deal. Hey, Dan, call up Anatek and propose it! I'll buy one, just for the novelty value. And to get the MC-202 talking to the rest of my rig. Eirikur ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1992 09:43:35 EDT From: James R Black Subject: Re: Whoa! Stop! CV - MIDI! > The MOOG Liberation is a strap on controller with CV out only. I use it > hooked into a Yamamha CS-20m. Now the CS-20 has CV + Trig in and out, but > the Libbie only has out. It is one of the few Moog devices NOT reccomended > (SP) for a MIDI to CV retro fit. Which isn't what I want to do anyway. > > The CS-20 is a beast. Made of plywood and steel plate etc. Lots of knobs. > Something like Yam's answer to the Minimoog. The Lib is heavy (14lbs) and > fits into a travel case w/ it's inter face that is about 6 ft long. Well, > close to 6 ft. Totaled together they're REAl heavy and a mess to port around, > just them alone. > I have a CS-40M. You interface via the CV? You get what... EFX only since you're not using the gate? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1992 12:41:57 EDT From: "D. Yuen" Subject: Re: Whoa! Stop! CV - MIDI! >hooked into a Yamaha CS-20m Note voltage values via CV and Gate voltage. The Liberation has a voltage scaling adjustment on it's interface but it doesn't seem to make too much of an effect. I tune both individually by ear then plug in the CV. What is/does a CS-40 do? The 20 is 2 oscillators, 1 VCF, 1 VCA; various modulation; a sine wave to mix in, and 7 or 8 digital storage slots for favored patches. It's nice - a bit rough in the sound, but the Moog is rougher. Putting 'em through a DSP is fairly necessary. Dan Y Oh-yes, w/ the CV and Gate patched in the CS-20 keyboard is locked out and controlled by the Libbie. The knobs stay active, and the CV can do portamento, the tap or slide Zbar type pitchbend on the Lib, and modulatin the Lib's VCO modulates the CS-20's. Er -modulate ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************