EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 48, Issue 08 This issue's topics: Software Editor/Librarian for Windows JX10 Sysex and XOR (4 messages) Re: need help on Soundblaster files Format NeXT -> MAC soundfile-conversion Re: Software (2 messages) Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:52:57 EST From: Simon Weatherill Subject: Editor/Librarian for Windows I just got Sound Quest's Midi Quest Editor/Librarian for Windows. I'm appalled! I saw the add in a magazine and it looked like what I've been looking for. It's a global editor/librarian for a large number of synthesizers and effects. First of all, the font that they use must be installed - it doesn't come with Windows. I don't mind that so much, but the font they chose is unreadable. The generic SYSTEM font is much more readable. Second, the manual is crap. The screen images are largely from a Mac, if they are readable at all. The text is not very clear either. Third, the edit windows are not very usable either. Things are packed tightly on the screen and the screen is not scalable. If you try to resize the window, nothing changes size (except the border). The cursor is the same old arrow, which covers up most of the things. A cross-hair cursor would work better. Fourth, they don't really use the Windows environment! In one of the windows, there is a scrollbar on the top of the window (not the standard scrollbar), and it doesn't even work very well. There are scrollbars on all the other windows (standard ones), but they aren't even used. Now I know that Midi Quest is available on Mac, Atari AND IBM, but if the native environment is not used... Are there any Windows users out there that could recommend a GOOD Editor/Librarian that runs in the Windows environment? I currently use Cakewalk Pro for Windows and love it! Something compatible would be nice. I actually paid more for Midi Quest than I did for Cakewalk though it's not worth 1/3!! Thanks, Simon A.T. Weatherill Senior Network Engineer +---------------------------------------------------------------+ + Burlington Coat Factory Voice: (603) 643-2800 + + Schoolhouse Lane Fax: (603) 643-3945 + + Etna, NH 03750 Internet: simon.weatherill@coat.com + +---------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:14:35 -0500 From: Randy Alley Subject: JX10 Sysex and XOR Well first off, hello to everyone on EMUSIC-L ! I'm new here but some may recognize my name from r.m.s and r.m.m.s . I'm trying to get some sysex stuff happening on my Roland Super JX - JX10. Apparently, handshaking is required. In cakewalk, only the initial 6 byte header is received (I didn't expect it to work.) In XOR where I'm using the MKS-70 profile, XOR reports a bad header info (or somesuch) error. Does anyone have any experience with XOR and the JX10 ? I can think of several possibilities: 1) The MKS-70 profile doesn't work with the JX-10 (I'm trying to get Dr. T's on the phone.) 2) My JX-10 is putting out corrupted sysex data. I tend to think it's not this, as the 6-byte response message it's sending seems OK. 3) Something else I haven't thought of. Another oddity in XOR is after I tell XOR to use say, midi channel 11 for sending and receiving sysex, on the main page, XOR reports channel 1 for those communications. Going back to the setup program, my original settings, channel 11 are still there. Weird. Any clues ? Any help on these beasts of hardware and software would be appreciated. Randy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:20:32 PST From: metlay Subject: Re: JX10 Sysex and XOR >Well first off, hello to everyone on EMUSIC-L ! I'm new here but some may >recognize my name from r.m.s and r.m.m.s . Oh, hi, Randy. Welcome. >I'm trying to get some sysex stuff happening on my Roland Super JX - JX10. >Apparently, handshaking is required. In cakewalk, only the initial 6 byte header >is received (I didn't expect it to work.) In XOR where I'm using the MKS-70 >profile, XOR reports a bad header info (or somesuch) error. > >Does anyone have any experience with XOR and the JX10 ? Hee ho hurnk! Ohhhh, NICK....! Someone to SEE you....! |-> The JX-10 / MKS-70 is famous for its moronic sysex implementation. I'm sure Doctor Rothwell would be only too happy to tell you all about it.... >Any help on these beasts of hardware and software would be appreciated. Good luck, dude. -- mike metlay | atomic city | "Don't whizz on the electric fence!" p. o. box 81175 | pittsburgh pa 15217-0675 | (j. kricfalusi) metlay@netcom.com | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:25:19 -0500 From: "Joseph D. McMahon" Subject: Re: JX10 Sysex and XOR Randy Alley writes about the Roland JX-10... > > Any help on these beasts of hardware and software would be appreciated. > I'd suggest you try SYNTH-L rather than EMUSIC-L; we're geared (no pun intended) more to philosophical discussions and the making of music rather than the technical nits which go along with that process, here. --- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:22:53 +0000 From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: JX10 Sysex and XOR >Does anyone have any experience with XOR and the JX10 ? XOR, no but with the JX-10 (or at least the MKS-70): lots. The SysEx implementation is severely broken. I have tone and patch editing working pretty well, but bulk dumps are completely out; I can't make any sense of the data (I think I gave up when discovering that 96-byte single patches get packed into 58 bytes for bulk transfer, or somesuch). As I recall, a number of the MIDI software houses have declared their software to be SuperJX-disadvantaged; it's certainly a distinct omission from MOTU's UniSyn. Nick Rothwell | cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:07:58 +0100 From: Alain Nissen Subject: Re: need help on Soundblaster files Format Received: from BROWNVM.brown.edu by SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with TCP; Tue, 12 Jan 93 02:09:57 CST Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7600; Tue, 12 Jan 93 03:06:13 EST Received: from BROWNVM.BITNET (NJE origin LISTSERV@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.1a/1.7e) with BSMTP id 6470; Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:06:12 -0500 X-To: ibmsnd-l@brownvm.brown.edu To: Multiple recipients of list IBMSND-L About .VOC and .WAV formats, and about many other "sound things", you can consult "The Sounds Site Newletter"; its electronic issues can be gotten by "anonymous" ftp'ing at saffron.inset.com: the files are in directory /pub/sound/newsletters (files sound1.txt ---> sound11.txt). I hope this will help you. Happy new year ! Alain Nissen nissen@montefiore.ulg.ac.be ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:49:28 EST From: vantomme@SOUND.MUSIC.MCGILL.CA Subject: NeXT -> MAC soundfile-conversion Someone had mentioned that they needed a NeXT -> MAC sound convertor. There is a good one written by Tom Erbe (at Mills College) called SoundHack 0.60. You can get it from : sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the /sound directory. Jason Vantomme ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:18:18 GMT From: DOMINIC PLANT Subject: Re: Software Can anyone tell me about Software for a PC which can be used to compose and play electronic music like Tangarene Deam, JPM Jarre etc. Good software that is. Dominic. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:53:45 EET From: Jari 'Jartsu' Lehto Subject: Re: Software You (DOMINIC PLANT) wrote: > > Can anyone tell me about Software for a PC which > can be used to compose and play electronic music > like Tangarene Deam, JPM Jarre etc. Good software > that is. > > > Dominic. Try Steinberg Cubase for Windows. Tangerine Dream themself use Cubase with ATARIs, they are one of the main testers and developers for Steinberg software. ... and there is a Mac-version too. Excellent software, I use the Atari-version daily, mainly composing and arranging music for computer produced animations etc. It is expensive, but easy to use and very powerful. Designed for professional use. Only disadvantages are that it is not so easy to find a dealer carrying Steinberg products, and the products are first programmed and optimized for Atari, the latest version cames first for Atari, and then ported to Mac and/or PC, maybe not with all the features that the Atari version has. -- Jari 'Jartsu' Lehto ... 90 hiirt{ my|s... MTU-622! ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************