EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 49, Issue 10 This issue's topics: Common Music info wanted. convert .CMF Genedit under MROS? (and more..) Hammings Windows? (2 messages) Help: Research in Computer Music (2 messages) M68hc11 cross-compiler for Mac (3 messages) MAX? Music Fonts Query (2 messages) Sample dumps of AIFF files via Mac (2 messages) Sequencer demos and Cmu Toolkit... voice-to-MIDI software (4 messages) Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 14:21:14 CST From: Joseph Fosco Subject: Common Music info wanted. Hi, Is anyone familiar with the Common Music system that was, I believe, developed at Stanford? Anyone who might be able to provide information on this please respond. Thanks, Joseph Fosco Internet: b38669@anlvm.ctd.anl.gov Bitnet: b38669@anlvm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 03:20:01 -0500 From: David HAUBENSACK Subject: convert .CMF Hey all, does anybody know a public software that converts CMF files (unknown to me and to my sequencer) to MID or SNG or ROL files ? Thanks David. _____________________________________________________ | David HAUBENSACK, , | | DEP/SIT, CEA/Cadarache | | 13108 ST-PAUL-LEZ-DURANCE, FRANCE | | tel: (33)42254292 fax: (33)42257298 | | ___ /\ | | /\ /\ /\ /\__\ /_/_ | | /_/_/ / /_/_ /_/_ /\__/\ | | / \_/ / /\__/\ \__/\ /_/_/_/ | | / / / / /_/_/ /____/ / /\____/\ | | \/ \/ \___\/ \___\/ \/ \/ | |_____________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 04:59:29 GMT From: Greg Patten Subject: Genedit under MROS? (and more..) A friend of mine has some questions that need answering..Please reply in email if possible to me: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au or just use the 'r' key..:) Tanscript follows: --------------------------start--------------------------------------------- Has anyone had success running Cubase and Genedit (Hybrid Arts) under MROS? I have been able to launch both programs but once in Genedit I cannot switch out of it. I am using Steinberg's MROS Switcher program. Can anyone tell me how to go about getting the V3.0 update for Genedit as I'm sick of ringing California from Oz. and getting an answering machine. Glenn. ------------------------end------------------------------------------------ Also, he has written organising configurations in Genedit for the JV-80 and the JD-800. If anyone would like these just mail me and I'll send 'em to you. Also if someone could point me to an ftp site that would be appropriate I'll upload them. Cheers, Greg. -- _-_|\ Greg Patten. / \ \_.-.*/ <-- Melbourne, Australia. v email: rasas@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 11:40:29 LCL From: Kenny Mitchell Subject: Hammings Windows? Hi, Apologies if this is the wrong forum to ask this - I'm blissfully ignorant in such matters - but here goes... We have someone here (not on the net) who is doing some work on spectrum analysis. He tells me he needs some software called Hammings Windows. Can anyone tell me where we can find this, ftp it from, purchase it from or whatever? Thanks, Kenny Mitchell ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- JANET/UK: ken.mitchell@uk.ac.uce Elsewhere: ken.mitchell@uce.ac.uk If all else fails try: ken.mitchell%uce.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 09:44:56 -0500 From: "Joseph D. McMahon" Subject: Re: Hammings Windows? Kenny Mitchell writes: > > We have someone here (not on the net) who is doing some work > on spectrum analysis. He tells me he needs some software called > Hammings Windows. Can anyone tell me where we can find this, ftp it > from, purchase it from or whatever? > Ah, a *slight* misunderstanding here. A Hamming window is a computational device used in spectral analysis. I'm afraid I don't recall the details at the moment, but I can get more information at a fairly elementary (conceptual) level if you need it. It isn't a particular piece of software. I think cmusic can use Hamming windows in its pre-FFT processing. --- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 10:33:29 EST From: LATOUR@MAINE.MAINE.EDU Subject: Help: Research in Computer Music I'm interested in getting up to speed on current research in Computer Music, specifically in the symbolic manipulation, composition, and analysis of music. I have in front of me: 1. an ACM Computing Surveys Special Issue on Computer Music, June, 1985, which I think is already out of date, and 2. an IEEE Computer July 1991 Issue on Computer-Generated Music, which seems like it would better reflect what's happening at the moment... My guess is that the research world of Computer Music is still in its growing stage, and therefore suffers from a certain amount of "disconnectedness". This is only a guess, based on my own research area of Software Reuse. Therefore, any help with who the major players, research groups, journals, books, "problems", etc. are would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you can point me to other relevant news groups that would also be appreciated. Larry Latour UMaine Dept. of Computer Science ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 11:43:14 -0500 From: "Joseph D. McMahon" Subject: Re: Help: Research in Computer Music LATOUR@maine.maine.edu writes: > > My guess is that the research world of Computer Music is still in its > growing stage, and therefore suffers from a certain amount of > "disconnectedness". This is only a guess, based on my own research > area of Software Reuse. Therefore, any help with who the major players, > research groups, journals, books, "problems", etc. are would be > greatly appreciated. > You need to check out the Computer Music Journal, at the very least; published by the MIT Press, subscriptions in the $40 a year range. > Also, if you can point me to other relevant news groups that would > also be appreciated. Don't bother with comp.music, rec.music.makers.synth, or rec.compose. Rec.compose is of marginal interest, but I still get the feeling that I'm looked down upon there because I don't do The Notation Thing. There is a music-research mailing list which is frequented by a lot of the CMJ crowd, but I'm afraid I don't remember its address. I can look it up if you'd like. --- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 11:50:14 -0500 From: NLEONARD@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU Subject: M68hc11 cross-compiler for Mac We are looking for a cross-compiler for the m68hc11 to run on the macintosh. I underand that there is a C x-compiler available. I would like to find a source for that. Any other information about development environments for this chip would also be appreciated. I tried to get information from the Motorola BBS but have found that it is often off-line and crashes in file transfers. Thank you in advance, Neil Leonard Assistant Director Computer Arts Studios Massachusetts College of Art nleonard@ecn.mass.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 16:58:11 WET From: Peter Cassidy Subject: Re: M68hc11 cross-compiler for Mac Hi, I believe there is a cross-compiler available for the PC. This is used for programming Motorola products which use the 68HC11, such as radios and the like. I believe what you say about the BBS though !!! -- Regards, Peter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | M O T O R O L A B . V . I R E L A N D | | ----------------------------------------- | | Peter Cassidy - T.S.E Dublin | Phone : 353-1-840-8866 Ext. 417 | | MACCVM : C10404 | X400 : peterc@comm.mot.com | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 11:49:22 -0500 From: NLEONARD@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU Subject: Re: M68hc11 cross-compiler for Mac Thanks for your note. It seems like the PC would be the best way to go. Could you please recommend a source for a x-compiler or point us in a direction to go looking for it. Thanks in advance, Neil Leonard nleonard@ecn.mass.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 19:25:55 EST From: Ilia Subject: MAX? Hello! I saw references to 'MAX' quite often on this list. Are people refering to the MAX object that was featured in CMJ some time ago? Or is it some kind of software? Any info would be appreciated. Ilia. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 13:16:01 EST From: Moe Methot Subject: Music Fonts Query Here's a fairly boring question: I have a friend who is producing music manusc ript for publication. She has been told that they need the output as an Pagema ker document, with Times Roman as the lyric font, and Sonata as the music font. She used Encore at first, and found out too late that you can't export Encore as an EPS file to load into pagemaker. So she switched to Music Prose, but Mu sic Prose uses Petrucci as the default font. Questions: A. Is there a way to switch to Sonata in Music Prose? B. If not, which application both uses Sonata and can export as an EPS file? Any help/tips/advice/commiseration would be appreciated. Hope this is the appr opriate list for such questions. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1993 14:22:00 CST From: REID@ACUVAX.BITNET Subject: RE: Music Fonts Query Regarding music fonts and exporting from music notation program to an EPS file (for use in a page layout program like Pagemaker): Music Prose's big brother - FINALE - does have the capability to use SONATA font as the default font - choose DATA CHECK from the EDIT menu - select CHANGE DEFAULT FONT and work your way through the dialogue boxes. It is not clear to me that Music Prose has this capability - although I am not as familiar with that program. FINALE will read Music Prose files, however. Also CODA has an upgrade path for Music Prose to Finale - or maybe someone with the program could do the conversion when all the other steps are complete. Sally Reid Abilene Christian University reid@acuvax.acu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 16:23:29 +0000 From: Ferdinando Villa Subject: Sample dumps of AIFF files via Mac Hello, does anyone know of software which allows sending AIFF files (or snd, or anything else) as samples via the MIDI sample dump protocol? I would like to use such a thing on a Mac to send sound files created with Csound to my keyboard and use them as base waveforms. Any info will be appreciated, since if no such software is available I will eventually end up writing my own. Thanks, Ferdinando ----------- Ferdinando Villa, dr. Institute of Ecology Direct phone: +39-521-905615 University of Parma FAX: +39-521-905665 Viale delle Scienze e.mail: villa@sparrow.bio.unipr.it 43100 Parma, Italy villa@aida.eng.unipr.it ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 14:00:51 -0500 From: Brian Adamson Subject: Re: Sample dumps of AIFF files via Mac DigiDesign's Sound Designer II program will do this (I know it supports several different samplers, but am not 100% sure about whether it support MIDI Sample Dump Protocol) I've read and edited AIFF files, but have gotten the samples to my sampler only via DAT as MIDI cables currently don't span the distance between my Sound Tools work station and my samplers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1993 09:25:00 EST From: Robert Depin Subject: Sequencer demos and Cmu Toolkit... This is probably and FAQ however, I've been unable to locate information using regualr channels (archie, etc.). Does anyone know if there is a demo of the cakewalk sequencer around on the net ? I've tried louie.del.edu and ucsd.edu, and I've managed to get demo copies of Cadenza, Finale, and Ballade. I've heard several people mention cakewalk on the list and would like to see/try it before spending the cash. Anyone have any other suggestion as far as sequencers I should look at for the PC ? (I use a midiator interface.) Master Tracks Pro 4 ? Any recommendations ? Anyone else use the Key Midiators ? Regarding Cmu Toolkit.. has anyone tried porting the MPU code to the Midiator ? Has anyone used CMT ? Bob DEPIN@TARGET.COM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1993 18:44:11 +0100 From: Hmeljak Dimitrij Subject: voice-to-MIDI software Doberdan! I'm looking for algorithms, programs or good articles about human voice pitch analysis, to do a software pitch-to-midi interface. I have found commercial products unadeguate for 'singing a synth' or simply far,far too expensive. The only article I have found till now is W.B.Kuhn (Questar) on Computer Music Journal. I don't know if this is the right place to do such questions, but... Anyway, any suggestions, information will be greatly appreciated (such as MIDI-algorithms, singing voice-analysis, or where to find them...) Hvala! Dimitrij Hmeljak hmeljakd@uts340.univ.trieste.it ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1993 02:17:30 EET From: Argiris Kranidiotis-UNA Subject: Re: voice-to-MIDI software Well,I want to do the same thing with you. A good place to start is the Markel & Gray book "linear prediction of speech". But,be warned : a lot of signal processing and maths is required. This is not so simple as it seems to be. Hope this helps, Argiris A. Kranidiotis University of Athens, Informatics Dept. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1993 15:39:35 +0100 From: Hmeljak Dimitrij Subject: RE: Re: voice-to-MIDI software What do you want to do WITH ME? :-) ..just kidding... Ok, i suppose there is no way around, I have to do DSP to get the pitch of the human voice. But in the article I read (on CMJ, but I don't remember the title nor the issue) the author asserted that classic DSP techniques used in voice processing are not very good to track 'notes' (semitones) from a digitalized singing voice, because you need a log precision, not a linear precision as you have when you use FFT and similar. I don't know much about voice processing, only basic DSP, but I suppose that working in frequency-domain would be out of question anyway. At least to remain in real-time processing on 1-3 MIPS range machines. Dimitrij Hmeljak hmeljakd@uts340.univ.trieste.it ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 15:24:43 EET From: Argiris Kranidiotis-UNA Subject: RE: Re: voice-to-MIDI software > What do you want to do WITH ME? :-) ..just kidding... > Ooooops , ok forgiv mai bad inglis ! ;-) I am a good guy and I will continue answering you... > I don't know much about voice processing, only basic DSP, > but I suppose that working in frequency-domain would be out of > question anyway. At least to remain in real-time processing on > 1-3 MIPS range machines. > Try to use the power cepstrum.The power cepstrum is an FFT over the first FFT i.e.: 1) Compute the fourier transform X(s) of the signal. 2) Compute the power spectrum |X(s)|^2 3) C(t)=FFT( log(Xp(s)) ) Find the peak in C(t) and ...voila ! Here is the pitch. Argiris Kranidiotis. ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************