EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 51, Issue 01 This issue's topics: retrofit board automation Roland D70 Question ROLAND IMPLEMENTATION HELP NEEDED..... Studio Monitors (2 messages) Sysex for sr-16 The Vox Guitorgan The WAVE demos at Frankfurt Musik Messe The WAVE flyer 93 (txt) WaveStation SR !!! (3 messages) Xpander and Prophet-VS Mailing Lists Yamaha RY30 Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 05:46:42 LCL From: doug.ramsay@HIS.COM Subject: ALESIS MICROVERB III Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought of using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't know if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated. Thanks...Doug doug.ramsay@p983.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org -and- doug.ramsay@his.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 16:05:24 CET From: Jack Latanowicz Subject: Re: ALESIS MICROVERB III On Fri, 16 Apr 1993 05:46:42 LCL said: >Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to >configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought of >using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't know >if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated. > >Thanks...Doug > >doug.ramsay@p983.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org -and- doug.ramsay@his.com I had the same problem with my Microverb III. If you want to use it in between other rack's you better do some sort of additional cabling with switch. You can plug the jack from AC/DC adaptor into switch and from the switch into Alesis. (Be careful not to turn polarity) If you're more advanced in tech you may install a switch in the effect. That's what I did with my. I located it at the back of Micro. and had little problems with drilling (the metal is covered with something that sticks out). You can locate the switch in front (useful in rack mountings) but you have to be careful not to damage the panel too much. The other thing is to locate the switch, so it won't collide with internal elements of Microverb. The last task is internal connection of cables. The original inlet is located directly on electronic surface, the way I did my switch is that I cutted two connections with inlet. The point before the cut and two points after the cut (the track splits in two directions), I've connected to switch. Anyway it wasn't easy to do, so if you don't feel up to do it do an external switch. It won't look too good but you don't risk any damage to the cover. I use my switch very long, and I'm proud of my switch... !!! The only thing I don't like is that when I turn my Microverb on and off it makes a short shoot sound (it's not the fault of switch, the same thing happens when you plug the adaptor too). I hope this helps you. Jack L. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jack Latanowicz tel/fax Pl-(0-61) 798-202 ul.Porzeczkowa 27 jack%plpuam11.bitnet@searn.sunet.se 61-306 Poznan P O L A N D "I'm proud of my switch, couse I can turn U down" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 10:36:50 PDT From: metlay Subject: Re: ALESIS MICROVERB III >Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to >configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought of >using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't know >if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated. Why, may I ask? I hit mine from the main power switch for my studio, and I assume that any manufacturer who leaves a power switch off of their box intends it never to be turned off and designs it that way. -- mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * metlay@netcom.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'll survive. Indeed I will. But boy will I ever be confused. (s. kellogg) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 18:53:25 GMT From: Sang Jin Hong Subject: Re: Direct to Disk Recording on Mac and PC IBM currently doesn't have any decent softwares which support them, although MediaVision and Creative Lab do have decent hard wares... besides, Roland just announced TAP-10 on-board card for PC, which does 44KHz digital recording to HDD with 2 inputs, also it has a simplified version of sound canvas, (the compact version for computers), it's listed at $595, so it'll be around $500 or little less... Roland will include a direct recording/sequencing software with it, but I think the better option would wait for some softwares from other venders, like CuBase Audio for PC, etc, which support these cards... Also Digidesign announced this 8 track direct hdd recorder for PC, which has full software (looked pretty sophisticated), I believe it even has pretty decent mixer with aux effect returns and eq's... It also has a option for getting console with sliders... Now, that looked mighty nice, it costs about $3000... which isn't bad at all for 8 track direct HDD with all those nice features... Also Antex Electronic has announced yet another dac card with Dolby A-2... 2 inputs... no price given... I've been using IBM for long time and never tried Mac intensively, I so some direct recording products for Mac which looked nice, like CuBase Audio, Digital Performer with Yamaha's CBX D5... but I think IBM has better price... and seems like a lot of people are jumping into it recently... like new creative lab's soundblaster 16 ASP (which used be game-card) looked very nice for doing digital recording... so if software venders take advantage of them, I think IBM would be better choice... .sjh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 12:06:23 -0400 From: Ed Riley Subject: DS-330 experience Can anyone out there give me some direction on the purchase of a DS-330? Can this box be used like a Sound Canvas (what I really want)? Are the drum sounds on the DS-330 good? Any experiences (good or bad) would be helpful. Tks.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 20:09:30 EDT From: "Richard B. Humphries" Subject: Emax serial port Does anyone know about the serialport on the EMAX? i.e what baud rate, etc. Al so what the files look like. Better yet, does anyoine know EMAX's addressso I can write them for a manual? Please respond to me personally at RH0536a@AUVM.American.edu thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 10:59:04 EDT From: wbf@ALUXPO.ATT.COM Subject: Ensoniq Mirage On March 24, Tim Griffin asked: > Does anyone know where I can reach Bill Fleischer, author > of the original Mirage Disk Editor? Have you found him yet, Tim? Is there anybody out there successfully sampling on their Mirage or have ANY software (on the PC) helping out in this regard? Foxy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 18:15:51 -0400 From: Timothy Griffin Subject: Re: Ensoniq Mirage Dear "Foxy" - Nope! I haven't found Bill Fleisher (author of the original Mirage Disk Editor program for the PC) yet! I wrote to the address that was included with the README file for MDE, but my letter came back Addressee Unknown. Too bad. The program had great potential, and I'd like to revive it (for those of use that can't afford SoundVision etc.) Somebody must know where I can reach this guy, yeah? Tim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 12:26:00 GMT From: Richard Morey Subject: ENSONIQ SQ-1 I have an Ensoniq SQ-1 and I have been working on a patch editor / librarian program in Turbo Pascal but I am having trouble sending info through my MPU compatible MIDI card.. Anyone out there program in Pascal and now how to access MIDI through it? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 16:43:50 -0400 From: Sang Jin Hong Subject: Korg 01/Wfd does anyone have a Korg's 01/Wfd? I currerntly have 01/W, and I'd like to get copies of the demo sequences built in... so if you could send me a copy of them, please reply to my account... thanks... .sjh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 07:33:26 +0000 From: Nick Rothwell Subject: MIDI Mixers (Re: pitch bend) This is really SYNTH-L talk, but anyway... > The mixers I have are CM Automation's MX-816 ($779.95 US retail) which >is a 16 channel MIDI controlled mixer (single 19" rack space). Hmm, same price as the Fostex's (which is what I have, and which is why I was asking). >It sums 2 >groups of 8 channels to 2 individual outputs and each of the 16 channels >also have its own output so that this box can be used as an automated >(faders) front end to your own 16 channel mixer. Hmm, OK, so it's not a complete mixer (no EQ or pan, etc.); it just implements channel faders and two effects sends. >A neat feature >is that a 17th controler message (in addition to 16 controlling channel >attenuation) can be used to fade between 2 stored snapshot scenes. That's sweet; the Fostexen support instant setup select only (although I intend to use MAX to get round this). > The audio quality is pristine. Better than 95 dB SNR, over 116 dB dynamic >range, +/- 1 dB freq response from 5 Hz to 80 kHz. Less than .01% THD >(unweighted). Bleah. The Fostexen are somewhat hissy (78dB SNR): fine for live use but probably marginal for recording unless you go to a fair amount of effort to get the gains tuned and so on. So far I've been doing live work only, and still have the Studiomaster sitting in the corner, just in case. (Mind you, the Studiomaster is quoted at about the same SNR...) In the Fostexen the noise seems to be per channel, so they can be muted if required. I've also had problems with hum and line noise (since I have two pretty packed racks with umbilicals between them) but I think that's solvable. > Other niceties include a ground lift switch, (Fostexen aren't grounded... !) > There is also an ugly little control console available for it The Fostex control panel is a little plasticky but is very good and easy to use; a major plus. >DISADVANTAGES: No MIDI Through except for MIDI Note Events, Start, Stop, >Continue, CLock, Patch Change, Continuous Controller, and MX-816 Sys >Exclusive messages (no other sys. exclusive messages). Pah, use a MIDI patchbay. I never trust MIDI THRU on American instruments. Nick Rothwell | cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 13:35:58 EST From: Douglas Ramsay Subject: MIDI Patch Bays Hi... I'll be looking soon to purchase a MIDI patchbay (rackmount) and would like to know how the KMX 8X8 programmable patch bay compares to others in its class. I spoke to metlay about the Yamaha MJC-8 and his KMX 15X16 bay (thanx, Mike!). How important is it to have built in merge...I guess it depends on what you'd like to accomplish. Anyway, I'm looking at something like the KMX 8X8, MJC-8, or Digital Music MX-8, just need something to the take care of the impending next of cables I see coming. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA ================================ Doug Ramsay, PEO-SCS Communication Satellite Programs Washington, DC ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil ================================ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 09:26:25 ADT From: Alan Edwards Subject: Re: MIDI Patch Bays In message <9304051824.AA13226@unb.ca> Douglas Ramsay writes: > Hi... > > I'll be looking soon to purchase a MIDI patchbay (rackmount) and would like to > know how the KMX 8X8 programmable patch bay compares to others in its class. I > spoke to metlay about the Yamaha MJC-8 and his KMX 15X16 bay (thanx, Mike!). This is more of a SYNTH-L topic I think, but for what it is worth, I suggest that you avoid the MJC-8. It has a big drawback in that it cannot accept patch change messages. You may think that is not important now, but trust me, down the road it will make your life easier. I would look at the Roland A-880. I got one of these last summer, and have been very pleased with it. My MJC-8 has been consigned to switching the sub-nets in my system, which do not need changing very often, and it is useful as an activity indicator there... Alan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 13:45:02 ECT From: Anthony Tersmette Subject: Re: Peavey MIDIBase I recall tinkering w/ something that fits that general descrition some 15 years ago or so. Believe it was referred to as a "Guitorgan", or somesuch. An oddity indeed! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 13:13:59 -0500 From: Biff Padiduwitz Subject: Peavey MIDIBase regarding: " If this instrument had existed in 1983, I might still be a half-decent bassist rather than a poor keyboardist in addition to my synth-programming chops..." There was an instrument that existed in 1969 that was a fret wired guitar that could replace an organ keyboard. Each fret was split in sixths and string contact closed the switch. It had a huge mass of cabled wires coming out of it (one for each switch). The only problem with it was that it had no logic circuit to eliminate switches closed behind the played note so, for example, barre chords would sound all of the notes of the bar. Does anybody else remember this oddity? Who made it? Whatever happened to it? Bill Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 21:11:35 EDT From: Alex Gottschalk Subject: Re: Peavey MIDIBase >Posted on 23 Apr 1993 at 13:29:40 by Biff Padiduwitz > >There was an instrument that existed in 1969 that was a fret wired >guitar that could replace an organ keyboard. Each fret was split in >sixths and string contact closed the switch. It had a huge mass of >cabled wires coming out of it (one for each switch). The only problem >with it was that it had no logic circuit to eliminate switches closed >behind the played note so, for example, barre chords would sound all >of the notes of the bar. Does anybody else remember this oddity? >Who made it? Whatever happened to it? > >Bill Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 21:12:42 EDT From: Alex Gottschalk Subject: Re: Peavey MIDIBase >Posted on 23 Apr 1993 at 13:29:40 by Biff Padiduwitz > >There was an instrument that existed in 1969 that was a fret wired >guitar that could replace an organ keyboard. Each fret was split in >sixths and string contact closed the switch. It had a huge mass of >cabled wires coming out of it (one for each switch). The only problem >with it was that it had no logic circuit to eliminate switches closed >behind the played note so, for example, barre chords would sound all >of the notes of the bar. Does anybody else remember this oddity? >Who made it? Whatever happened to it? > >Bill Scott This instrument was made by Vox, now defunct. They produced some pretty weird guitars besides the guitorgan, like tear-drop shaped monstrosities whose string spacings were narrower at the bridge than the nut. They had some wild on-board electronics though, like built in vibrato and fuzz and whatnot. Alex Gottschalk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 09:27:30 -0500 From: Biff Padiduwitz Subject: Re: Peavey MIDIBase Alex Gottschalk writes: >This instrument was made by Vox, now defunct. Was the guitorgan made by the same folks who made the VOX continental featured so prominently on the Lawrence Welk show? Bill Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 15:17:52 EDT From: ronin Subject: pitch bend just a little clarification... the midi pitch bend command is a status word independent of the rest of midi's controllers (like mod wheel, volume, etc) and is followed by a two-byte numerical argument, providing a numeric range of 16384, as opposed to the standard range of 128 for the other controllers. this precision provides a great deal of flexibility in response implementation, with most synthesizers allowing the +/- 8192 range to be assigned to anything from +/- one semitone to +/- one octave. glissando is usually a separate option, by the way. -----------< Cognitive Dissonance is a 20th Century Art Form >----------- Eric Harnden (Ronin) or The American University Physics Dept. 4400 Mass. Ave. NW, Washington, DC, 20016-8058 (202) 885-2748 (with Voice Mail) ---------------------< Join the Cognitive Dissidents >------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 13:01:51 CDT From: crispen Subject: Re: Re[2]: ALESIS MICROVERB III Douglas Ramsay sez (in response to Mike Metlay): >>>Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to >>>configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought >>>of using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't >>>know if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated. > >MM>Why, may I ask? I hit mine from the main power switch for my studio, and >MM>I assume that any manufacturer who leaves a power switch off of their box >MM>intends it never to be turned off and designs it that way. > >Ok, Mike...my setup is in the corner of my apt...I have lamps, stereo, etc >pligged into the same power strip as the MIDI equipment. When I'm ready to do >some work, I turn on each unit individually. Someone told me it wasn't wise to >leave the Microverb on *all* of the time (something to do with the LEDs, I >think) Horror story from Decatur AL: I inadvertently left my Midiverb II on for a week and when I came back to play it, it was fried -- every sound, even at the lowest volumes, was clipped. I sent it back to Alesis, and unlike their reputation for kindness to customers, they gave me a severe hassle before they finally fixed it (about $50 if I remember correctly, since it was out of warranty). Since my Midiverb sits on a table, I just leave the thin power cord from the wall wart lying beside it, so I can plug it in when I need it. I do leave it plumbed to my mixer, though (but I keep the volumes on the send and return all the way down). +-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen | "IT FOUND ME!" | | crispen@foxy.boeing.com | Campus Crusade for Cthulhu | +-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 13:45:05 EST From: Douglas Ramsay Subject: Re[2]: ALESIS MICROVERB III >>Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to >>configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought >>of using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't >>know if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated. MM>Why, may I ask? I hit mine from the main power switch for my studio, and MM>I assume that any manufacturer who leaves a power switch off of their box MM>intends it never to be turned off and designs it that way. Ok, Mike...my setup is in the corner of my apt...I have lamps, stereo, etc pligged into the same power strip as the MIDI equipment. When I'm ready to do some work, I turn on each unit individually. Someone told me it wasn't wise to leave the Microverb on *all* of the time (something to do with the LEDs, I think) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 11:59:56 PDT From: metlay Subject: Re: Re[2]: ALESIS MICROVERB III >>>Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to >>>configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought >>>of using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't >>>know if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated. > >MM>Why, may I ask? I hit mine from the main power switch for my studio, and >MM>I assume that any manufacturer who leaves a power switch off of their box >MM>intends it never to be turned off and designs it that way. > >Ok, Mike...my setup is in the corner of my apt...I have lamps, stereo, etc >pligged into the same power strip as the MIDI equipment. When I'm ready to do >some work, I turn on each unit individually. Someone told me it wasn't wise to >leave the Microverb on *all* of the time (something to do with the LEDs, I >think) Well, this would normally surprise me, but after Bob's horror story maybe I shouldn't be so glib. I've had a MIDIverb for many years (yes the original one) and never had trouble with long turn-on periods.... -- mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * metlay@netcom.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Rhodes Chroma: The only synthesizer whose front panel buttons hit back. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1993 08:32:24 EST From: Douglas Ramsay Subject: Re[2]: Studio Monitors >I've mentioned before on emusic-l the Atlantic Technology Pattern 100 >self-powered speakers. I think they'd do fine, if you can find them. They >sold for about $500, but have been discontinued, and discounters have them >for about $280. Good luck. >Jon Thanks for the speedy response, Jon, I'm collecting as much data as possible to facilitate shopping around. If you even have the faintest idea of what mail-order houses may carry them, pls let me know. ================================ Doug Ramsay, PEO-SCS Communication Satellite Programs Washington, DC ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil doug.ramsay@his.com ================================ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 14:33:55 EST From: Douglas Ramsay Subject: Re[4]: ALESIS MICROVERB III Douglas Ramsay sez (in response to Mike Metlay): >>>Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to >>>configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought >>>of using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't >>>know if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated. > >MM>Why, may I ask? I hit mine from the main power switch for my studio, and >MM>I assume that any manufacturer who leaves a power switch off of their box >MM>intends it never to be turned off and designs it that way. > >Ok, Mike...my setup is in the corner of my apt...I have lamps, stereo, etc >pligged into the same power strip as the MIDI equipment. When I'm ready to do >some work, I turn on each unit individually. Someone told me it wasn't wise to >leave the Microverb on *all* of the time (something to do with the LEDs, I >think) >Horror story from Decatur AL: I inadvertently left my Midiverb II >on for a week and when I came back to play it, it was fried -- >every sound, even at the lowest volumes, was clipped. I sent it >back to Alesis, and unlike their reputation for kindness to >customers, they gave me a severe hassle before they finally >fixed it (about $50 if I remember correctly, since it was out of >warranty). >Since my Midiverb sits on a table, I just leave the thin power cord >from the wall wart lying beside it, so I can plug it in when I need it. >I do leave it plumbed to my mixer, though (but I keep the volumes on >the send and return all the way down). >+-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ >| Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen | "IT FOUND ME!" | >| crispen@foxy.boeing.com | Campus Crusade for Cthulhu | >+-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ Ok, guys...just got off the phone with Alesis Customer Service, (800) 5-ALESIS (don't know why I didn't do this from the start). The tech rep says "it's okay to leave the unit on for an extended period of time". "On the order of....?" said I. He says "days...shouldn't cause any problem to the internal circuitry, but don't leave it on for more than a week or so." Cheers! Doug ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 13:59:43 +0000 From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Re[4]: ALESIS MICROVERB III >The tech rep says "it's okay >to leave the unit on for an extended period of time". "On the order of....?" >said I. He says "days...shouldn't cause any problem to the internal circuitry, >but don't leave it on for more than a week or so." ...which still begs the question: why? What happens in a week that doesn't happen in a day? Nick Rothwell | cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 09:52:21 EST From: Douglas Ramsay Subject: Re[6]: ALESIS MICROVERB III >The tech rep says "it's okay >to leave the unit on for an extended period of time". "On the order of....?" >said I. He says "days...shouldn't cause any problem to the internal circuitry, NM>....which still begs the question: why? What happens in a week that doesn't NM>happen in a day? NM> Nick Rothwell | cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk NM> CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk I don't know, Nick., all I wanted was a simple switch so I culd leave the wallwart in the power strip, leave the strip on, but leave the "Verb off when not needed. I guess you've probably seen the response from Jack Lantanowicz by now. Cheers! ================================ Doug Ramsay, PEO-SCS Communication Satellite Programs Washington, DC ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil doug.ramsay@his.com ================================ ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************