EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 52, Issue 09 This issue's topics: Hi O Hi, O Hi O, Hi Hi O Hi Oberlin! (Rah, rah, rah.) looking for advice... (3 messages) Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 15:40:26 PDT From: metlay Subject: Hi O Hi, O Hi O, Hi Hi O Hi Oberlin! (Rah, rah, rah.) Fellow Obie and long-lost friend David Bloom writes: >> Jon, >> Some other places to look into for composition/research: >> >> Oberlin in northern Ohio >Jon, Bill__ FYI - There is _no_ graduate school at the Obieland conservatory, Oh, was he asking about grad school? Never mind. Forget I said anything. >That's one of their major strengths: the undergrads have all the fun! This is very true, actually. You don't get taught by graduate assistants in the core courses just because the profs are too busy chasing grants. >Their TIMARA [Technology In Music And Related Arts] program is pretty >"academic" [re: recent flamewar], but they've got great labs. "Pretty" Academic?! David, dear friend, have you forgotten Bobo Weinstock and the infamous "Ugly Music" scrimmage? It wasn't very polite, but dinosaurs chewing on the outside of Warner Hall isn't what most folks would call "accessible". But the new labs (built after we left, alas) are indeed very pretty. And btw Dave, your messages get out onto EMUSIC-L fine, they're just not echoed back to you. -- mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * metlay@netcom.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Team Metlay's BANDWIDTH is now out on Compact Disc! Email me for details... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 13:27:09 -0400 From: Jonathan Black Subject: looking for advice... Hello, I recently subscribed to this list and jumped into the semi-heated "FAVES" discussion. I just wanted to interject a few questions of my own (not relating to the discussion, by the way) and then I will be quietly on my way. I am currently pursuing a BM in Sound Recording Technology from a small liberal arts school in Pennsylvania. Since next year will be my Senior year I have begun to look at various graduate schools (although this recent discussion of "academic" music kind of scared me). I originally planned to get a degree in Aerospace Engineering from Boston University but changed my plans in the middle of my sophomore year and transferred here. I am very interested in music and technology that supports it. My problem is this...I am finding in difficult to find graduate programs that offer both solid musical training along with integration of modern technology. I know that programs such as these exist, but graduate catalogs don't exactly have large sections that describe such majors. My questions then are: How do I go about finding these programs? Is there a list of research topics by school? What are your opinions on programs such as these? I know that I could probably take a job as a recording engineer once I get out of college (assuming I could find one). Part of me, though, wants to pursue a composition/research career. I'm not asking for advice on that...I know that is my decision. One final question. I am a trumpet player. I think that I have seen a wind controller by Akai(?) that uses the same fingerings as a trumpet. Does anyone know about this or how it works? Thanks for the time and sorry about the intrusion. :-) Jon Black JO_BLACK@ACAD.LVC.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 14:09:13 EDT From: Brian Good Subject: Re: looking for advice... Jon Black writes: > One final question. I am a trumpet player. I think that I have seen a wind > controller by Akai(?) that uses the same fingerings as a trumpet. Does anyone > know about this or how it works? The Akai Electronic Valve Instrument (EVI) is out of production but available on the used market. You play it by blowing into a tube; a real trumpet embouchure is not required. It uses touch sensors of some kind instead of valves, and you control octaves (or partials--not sure which) with a rotating cylindrical thingie where the trumpet bell should be. It looks to me like it takes a certain disconnected adroitness to play well. The EVI is also not really a stand-alone MIDI controller. It drives its own analog module, which also emits MIDI; the CV-driven analog module gives it a bit more expressiveness than a MIDI-only controller. When Akai updated the original EWI (the sax-like controller), they let the EVI die. Nyle Steiner, the godfather of these things, has a retrofit available that modifies the sax-like EWI to allow some approximation to trumpet-like fingering. I've no idea how well it works. If you're seriously interested, I'll email you my brother's email address. He's been playing an EVI for several years. brian good ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 14:32:00 EST From: Robert Depin Subject: looking for advice... Jon, Some places to look into for composition/research: Massachusettes Institute of Technology offers a Science Phd in media sciences which may have a focus in computer music. University of Illinois Champaign Urbana home of CERL has an excellent music department with an excellent computer music facility. Since I did my masters and hour west at Illinois State University. Unversity of Iowa also had something a few years ago, though I haven't any recent information. North Texas State University also has a very decent program but it been a few years so you should check them out. Stanford, probably the premier computer music/research in the U.S. facility CCRMA has quite a reputation and history. You should also check into University of Calf. at San Diego and Unversity of Delware. Also, McGill Unversity in Canada and Ball State University both offered Masters of Music programs in Music Recording Technology a few years ago, probably worth getting a catalog. I'd suggest you get a catalog from these or other institutions which may interest you and then contact the Music departments and talk to the faculty that are involved in the program your interested in. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 14:44:43 EDT From: wbf@ALUXPO.ATT.COM Subject: Re: looking for advice... Jon, Some other places to look into for composition/research: Oberlin in northern Ohio Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio (Dr. Thomas Wells, PhD. - Tell him I sent you!) Bill Fox ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 14:45:38 PDT From: metlay Subject: Re: looking for advice... >Jon, > Some other places to look into for composition/research: > >Oberlin in northern Ohio (Dr. Gary Nelson. DON'T tell him I sent you. Well, you might; I have no idea what his reaction will be....) -- mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * metlay@netcom.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Team Metlay's BANDWIDTH is now out on Compact Disc! Email me for details... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 1993 16:53:23 -0500 From: "David C. Bloom" Subject: Re: looking for advice... > > Jon, > Some other places to look into for composition/research: > > Oberlin in northern Ohio > > Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio (Dr. Thomas Wells, PhD. - Tell > him I sent you!) > > Bill Fox > Jon, Bill__ FYI - There is _no_ graduate school at the Obieland conservatory, except for a few opera divas who need the M.M. degree to get a Met audition. That's one of their major strengths: the undergrads have all the fun! Their TIMARA [Technology In Music And Related Arts] program is pretty "academic" [re: recent flamewar], but they've got great labs. Bill__ If this doesn't show up on emusic-l [for some reason my messages always seem to get "lost"] - pls forward this to Bill. Thx. __David p.s. Really, Ohio State?!? University of Michigan's electronic music program is flaccid by Berkely styandards, but it beats OSU hands down. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> david c. bloom <> <> <> open networks engineering, inc. <> "The first false assumption <> <> 777 e. eisenhower pkwy, ste 650 <> that underlies the scheduling <> <> ann arbor, michigan 48108 <> of systems programming <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> is that all will go well." <> <> net dcb@one.com <> \ \ <> __Frederick P. Brooks Jr. <> <> vox 313.996.9900 <> 0-0 <> The Mythical Man-Month <> <> fax 313.996.9908 <> . <> <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 May 1993 07:48:28 -0400 From: idealord Subject: Re: looking for advice... Just back from Disneyland - and saw the request for info about grad schools. A couple of points -> all prefaced with a big IMHO! 1. Don't go to grad school for computer music. Study music. Go to a _music_ school. Try University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, other schools with composers you like. 2. Computer music composition (sooner or later ;-) is just going to be music composition with computer instruments. If you spend your entire grad music school years studying software - you'll lose out on the best opportunities grad students get - readings - and easy performances. 3. Pick the school (like I said above) for the composers you like and for the performance opportunities. Ask the grad students there - is it easy to get readings? Are the other faculty members approachable? 4. Sooner or later you'll learn that composers always end up teaching themselves. Comp lessons are great for pointers, aphorisms, that kind of stuff, but after a while if you listen to tapes of your music (over and over and over) and critique the living f*ck out of them yourself you'll find your problems (solutions will have to wait 'til you're dead ;-). Jeff Harrington idealord@dorsai.dorsai.org ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************