EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 53, Issue 09 This issue's topics: Cakewalk (3 messages) CMF Cmusic books European CDs ftp sites? (4 messages) Mac Notation advice (3 messages) MIDI drivers / one hand clapping MIDI problem -- one hand clapping (2 messages) Musicator GS for Windows new user -- samples (2 messages) Patch editiors/librarians PD midi toolbox PD/Shareware sequencer for 386 pc (2 messages) PD/Shareware sequencer for 386 pc (fwd) Pro 5 & System 7 question A. Claassen on the Symbolic Composer Quick Score de luxe from Dr. T. Roland R8/PD-software Simple midi question (2 messages) Symbolic Composer Virtual Music Workshop in London (2 messages) Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 14:48:30 METDST From: Joan Ramon March Subject: Cakewalk There's a demo of Cakewalk for Windows at ftp.cica.indiana.edu at /pub/pc/win3/demo directory. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 10:11:39 -0400 From: David HAUBENSACK Subject: Re: Cakewalk > There's a demo of Cakewalk for Windows at ftp.cica.indiana.edu > at /pub/pc/win3/demo directory. A demo of the new release of CW or the first old one ? David. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 11:13:44 METDST From: Joan Ramon March Subject: Re: Cakewalk > > > There's a demo of Cakewalk for Windows at ftp.cica.indiana.edu > > at /pub/pc/win3/demo directory. > > A demo of the new release of CW or the first old one ? > > David. > >From June of 1992 J.R. March ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 12:07:45 LCL From: Count Nostradamus Subject: CMF could someone tell some good sites with good CMF files ? bill cbdz110a@ossa.ccf.auth.gr cbdz110a@grtheun1.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 07:39:47 -0400 From: Chris Gray Subject: Re: Cmusic books I can't find (well three different bookshops couldn't find) that locus classicus, _Elements of Computer Music_ by Richard Moore, in either the British or American _Books In Print_. The latter mentioned a book by (apparently) the same author, from the same publishing house, called _C Programming for Unix_ or something like that. If that really is the same guy then I have something to say about a market economy which allows his C/Unix book to live next to a gazillion others on the same subject, but smothers his unique contribution shortly after birth. But I won't, I'll just launch my plea: anyone know where I can get this book? I'd even pay the inflated price charged by Prentice Hall Australia which someone was bitching about a few months ago, if the book is really available there... Here's hoping, Chris __________________________________________________________________________ Chris Gray cgra@se.alcbel.be Compu$erve: 100065.2102 Ignore my broken mailer - the addresses above are the only truth __________________________________________________________________________ Thank God I'm an atheist. - Luis Bunuel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1993 12:09:00 EST From: FLEET TEACHOUT Subject: European CDs I have a friend (a native of Scotland) who is returning to his home for a vacation. While there he wishes to purchase some CDs by local groups that are not available here in the states. He wishes to know if he will be able to play those CDs on equipment he has purchased here. Is there anything he needs to watch for with regard to formating specifications, etc.? I apologize if this is not the correct list for this query. If someone can point me to a better list, please do. I am not a subscriber here, so please answer directly. Thanks, - fleet - <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << fleet@crsddg.nesea2400.navy.mil >> << pteach@heartland.bradley.edu >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 08:34:54 -0400 From: idealord Subject: Re: ftp sites? > > Several months ago a I read a posting of ftp sites where sounds > and sequences for Korg equipment could be found. I didn't pay > much attention to at the time as I do not have any Korg gear. > However, my son is home from college now and he does have some > Korg stuff. Could someone please send me a list of ftp sites > where I might get some Korg sound patchs. > > I also misplaced (probably in the eternal bit bucket) the recent > post about MIDI documentation. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ed Frankenfeld | ELF1154.dsc1@pcmail.dcccd.edu > Software Trainer | (214)324-7938 > Information Resource Center | 4343 N. Hwy 67 > Dallas Community College District | Mesquite TX 75150 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 07:39:00 CST From: Elf1154 Subject: ftp sites? Several months ago a I read a posting of ftp sites where sounds and sequences for Korg equipment could be found. I didn't pay much attention to at the time as I do not have any Korg gear. However, my son is home from college now and he does have some Korg stuff. Could someone please send me a list of ftp sites where I might get some Korg sound patchs. I also misplaced (probably in the eternal bit bucket) the recent post about MIDI documentation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ed Frankenfeld | ELF1154.dsc1@pcmail.dcccd.edu Software Trainer | (214)324-7938 Information Resource Center | 4343 N. Hwy 67 Dallas Community College District | Mesquite TX 75150 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1993 21:13:46 EDT From: Sean Henriques Subject: Re: ftp sites? Can anyone reccommend a few sites for pc based sequencer programs. I am now in the process of switching over from the old ratty AMIGA ;-) Also, any useful info for pc based sequencing would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance....... SEAN aka SOLID STATE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 09:43:33 CET From: Jack Latanowicz Subject: Re: ftp sites? On Wed, 16 Jun 1993 21:13:46 EDT Sean Henriques said: >Can anyone reccommend a few sites for pc based sequencer programs. I am now > in the process of switching over from the old ratty AMIGA ;-) Also, any > useful info for pc based sequencing would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks in advance....... > SEAN > aka > SOLID STATE Hey hey ! Amiga is'n so ratty ! :) I've been using Amiga with Dr.T's KCS for 2 years now and also wanted to switch to a pc. And I won't do it til I find PC version of this program cause I'm used to it ! My brother has a 386 DX with CUBASE and Midi Recording Session and no MIDI interface yet. I've taken a look at Cubase the 'greatest' ATARI - PC sequencing program... I can't tell how it works til I use it for a longer time, but the way of doing sequenced music there makes me sick. From what I've seen you can do parts of your song and multiply freely throughout tracks. I do music differently, for instance writing bass track - is a work from measure 1 to the end. (no repeats) Maybe I changed the point here to 'the ways of making music' but it all is just to show that Amiga has some good progs too... I won't tell anything about Midi Playground which I've got from Internet shareware taht I use for storing exclousive dumps from my synth (and editors which I can't get). I know that PC is a better computer but for me Amiga does all the work that I need !!! :) Jack L. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jack Latanowicz tel/fax Pl-(0-61) 798-202 ul.Porzeczkowa 27 jack%plpuam11.bitnet@searn.sunet.se 61-306 Poznan P O L A N D "oh these computers..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 10:40:33 -0400 From: Neil Leonard Subject: Mac Notation advice What is the best program for making new music scores on the Mac. Finale seems like it is used by the most demanding composers I have met. However, before spending $500 I would like more info on the alternatives. I hear that OP Code is comming out with a notation program. Any info available? Mosaic was not reliable for the first few versions. Is it really competitive with Finale. Nightingale has been in the works for years but never been released, or has it? I have a early copy of Encore 1.3.2. Has this gotten much better? It is certainly easy to use. Not to robust but not bad. Any suggestions? Neil Leonard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 09:43:20 -0500 From: Arne Claassen ISE Subject: Re: Mac Notation advice > > What is the best program for making new music scores on the Mac. > Finale seems like it is used by the most demanding composers I > have met. However, before spending $500 I would like more info > on the alternatives. > > I hear that OP Code is comming out with a notation program. Any > info available? > Opcode currently publishes Mushicshop, which is the EZVision engine with a notation front-end. This, of course is only entry level. Development is also under way to bring out a similar notation front-end with the Vision sequencing engine behind it. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Arne F. Claassen | | | | "It is by my will alone I set my mind in motion" | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 11:56:23 -0400 From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: Mac Notation advice I recommend that you download the Lime demo from castrovalva.gsfc.nasa.gov. I haven't heard of any new releases of late, so that should be the most recent version. It's pretty cheap, and many folks like it. It is primarily a notation engine, not a sequencer. --- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1993 14:35:53 LCL From: Stephen Miller Subject: Re: MIDI drivers / one hand clapping Please help! Windows documentation on MIDI is not very helpful. I haven't needed MIDI until now and would like some help. This is a long file...sorry. Machine: Gateway 486DX2 50 Sound Card: MV ProAudio Spectrum 16 DMA on 3, INT on 10 WAV files play fine over my system. CD's play fine. CANYON.MID (supplied with Windows) will load in Media Player and play (the timer seems to be tracking the file) but no sound comes out. Installed Drivers: MediaVision ProAudio/CDPC Mixer MediaVision ProAudio/CDPC Wave/MIDI/... MIDI Mapper Timer [MCI] Autodesk Animation Player: v.1 [MCI] CD AUDIO [MCI] MIDI Sequencer [MCI] Mixer Control [MCI] Sound MIDI Mapper shows the following: Ad Lib Ad Lib general Extended MIDI General MIDI LAPC1 MT32 MVI Extended MVI MVFM MVI ProAudio Proteus general Proteus/1 Vintage MIDI The only maps accepted by the system (without issuing the warning: "Current MIDI setup references a MIDI device not installed on system. Do you want to continue?") are: MT32 Proteus general Proteus/1 Choosing one of these files doesn't change my problem (no MIDI sound). I assume that the Extended MIDI setup is standard with the Windows installation. When I checked the setup of that file, it listed "Voyetra OPL-3 FM Synth" in Port Name. I changed that to "ProAudio MIDI" for channels 1 to 16. All channels were active. This still didn't help. I tried reinstalling Media Player, Media Player Help, Recorder, Sound Recorder, and Canyon Midi Song, yet the situation was unchanged. ADDITIONALLY: I have an Apple mic patched into the soundcard. When I use ProMixer and pull up the Meter, the needles are flickering in the red area (level too high). The mixer seems not to affect this. Sound Recorder meter is FAT, which is buried. Normal .wav files show minor blips in the meter line. This line is the full window. There is now a pop from the speakers when certain windows close. I plugged the mic in yesterday. The MIDI problem was there from the beginning. I have prints of all .ini files for anyone who might be able to help me here. The .drv and .dll files all seem to be installed (I have listings). If anyone can help with this, please contact me at miller@delphi.bsd.uchicago.edu Thanks a million! Stephen Miller miller@delphi.bsd.uchicago.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 11:48:58 LCL From: Stephen Miller Subject: MIDI problem -- one hand clapping Help! A while back I posted a request for help on a poorly documented MIDI area in Windows yet got no response. Could anyone who could help with this send me a message to my address or could anyone point me in a better direction for help? Thanks in advance. Stephen Miller miller@delphi.bsd.uchicago.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 19:24:20 GMT From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra Subject: Re: MIDI problem -- one hand clapping Stephen Miller writes: >A while back I posted a request for help on a poorly documented MIDI area in >Windows yet got no response. Could anyone who could help with this send me >a message to my address or could anyone point me in a better direction for >help? I don't know what your problem is, and know nuthin' 'bout Windoze, but you might try rec.music.makers.synth, or, if it's a programming problem, some comp.sys.msdos.* group. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra (hjv@phil.ruu.nl) Dept. of Philosophy University of Utrecht ... and they built up with their bare hands The Netherlands what we still can't do today ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1993 08:58:29 GMT From: Phil Gardner Subject: Musicator GS for Windows I'm interested in the adverts for Musicator GS - a notation-based sequencer for MS-Windows on PC. It appears to give a music notation display/hardcopy _and_ piano-roll display. It also appears to have a GS mixer to adjust volume, stereo balance etc. on a Roland GS-compatible sound source. Does anyone have experience of this product - the sort of questions I am interested in are as follows: * Is there a demo version that is FTP-able from somehwere? * Is the GS mixer only of use with Roland GS boxes? * Does the hardcopy output include PostScript and HPGL file formats? * Can it read/write standard MIDI files (format 0 and 1)? * What are the cut-and-paste facilities like? * How flexible are the quantisation options? * What sound-card and MIDI-card drivers are supplied? * What are the upgrade costs when a new version is released? * Is there an on-screen help/manual facility, and how well-written is the paper documentation? * What does it lack with respect to competing products like Cadenza, Cakewalk, Cubase etc. Many thanks for any information. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 19:10:23 EDT From: Brill Daniel Subject: new user -- samples Hello to all discussants. :-) Yesterday I signed on to the list. I am pleased to see that so much mail is going back and forth. I should be able to learn q uite a bit. My first question has to do with capturing samples using my pc's s oundcard, and transfering them to my keyboard, an Ensoniq VFX-SD. I like the S D's on-board sequencer, and don't really want to get into pc sequencing at this time. But as the SD is a synth, and has no sampling capacity, I though my rec ently purchased sound card could help me out. I'm hoping for a simple solution , but this seems unlikely. How can I turn *.wav files into something that my k eyboard can use, and secondly, How do I get them there? I appreciate any help. thanks, Dan Dan Brill dbrill@uga.cc.uga.edu Univ. of Georgia, Dept of Political Sci. Athens, GA USA 30605 PEACE THROUGH MUSIC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1993 19:34:00 -0400 From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: new user -- samples >My first question has to do with capturing samples using my pc's s >oundcard, and transfering them to my keyboard, an Ensoniq VFX-SD. Sadly, you can't. Ensoniq has just released the TS-10, which DOES do this. And I adore my VFXsd, too. :-) --- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1993 09:56:00 LCL From: DFV Subject: Patch editiors/librarians I am in the market for a universal IBM Compatible-PC based patch editor in either DOS or (DOS's-evil-twin/MacEmulator)Windows format. I need a software package that allows full editing capabilities for multiple synthesizer platforms. Please let me know what you all are using, along with price ranges so that I can make an informed decision about my upcoming purchase. Thanks, Don V. address email to: DON_VINCENT@UNC.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1993 20:03:46 -0400 From: flashner@MATH.TAU.AC.IL Subject: PD midi toolbox Hi, I have to build a librarian for my own use on my pc. I wonder if there is a midi 'toolbox' for midi programming for dos use, or preferrable for ms-windows. -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 11:08:37 -0400 From: Chris Gray Subject: PD/Shareware sequencer for 386 pc Now here's a boring request for information. A colleague is asking after a "program to edit MIDI files" for his IBM-contemptible, which boasts a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 soundcard. PD/shareware preferred. For this guy's requirements I guess that Cubase for Windows would be overkill. Looked in the comp.music FAQ, but found nothing (wrong FAQ maybe). Sorry to waste your time on this one. __________________________________________________________________________ Chris Gray cgra@se.alcbel.be Compu$erve: 100065.2102 Ignore my broken mailer - the addresses above are the only truth __________________________________________________________________________ Intel Outside Chaos Inside ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 09:28:29 -0700 From: Art Lowery Subject: Re: PD/Shareware sequencer for 386 pc The leading shareware sequencer is Windjammer 2.4 (windows3.1) or it's older version with less cripples called midiedit. The first is available at ucsd.edu /midi (I think) If not, check out wuarchive /msdos/msdos_uploads On Thu, 3 Jun 1993, Chris Gray wrote: > Now here's a boring request for information. A colleague is asking after > a "program to edit MIDI files" for his IBM-contemptible, which boasts a > Pro Audio Spectrum 16 soundcard. PD/shareware preferred. For this guy's > requirements I guess that Cubase for Windows would be overkill. > > Looked in the comp.music FAQ, but found nothing (wrong FAQ maybe). > > Sorry to waste your time on this one. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Chris Gray cgra@se.alcbel.be Compu$erve: 100065.2102 > Ignore my broken mailer - the addresses above are the only truth > __________________________________________________________________________ > > Intel Outside Chaos Inside ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1993 03:00:00 LCL From: Humberto Jose Bortolossi Subject: PD/Shareware sequencer for 386 pc (fwd) => Now here's a boring request for information. A colleague is asking after => a "program to edit MIDI files" for his IBM-contemptible, which boasts a => Pro Audio Spectrum 16 soundcard. PD/shareware preferred. For this guy's => requirements I guess that Cubase for Windows would be overkill. I'd like to know about that too! Humberto. -- +------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ ! Humberto Jose' Bortolossi ! bitnet: hjbortol@brlncc.bitnet ! ! Instituto de Matematica Pura e Aplicada ! internet: hjbortol@impa.br ! ! Estrada Dona Castorina, 110 +----------------------------------+ ! Jardim Botanico ! voice: 55-021-294-9032 (185) ! ! CEP 22460 - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - Brasil ! fax: 55-021-512-4115 ! +------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 15:30:01 EDT From: "Sean F. Jepson" Subject: Pro 5 & System 7 Hi all! Before I call does anyone know if Master Tracks Pro Ver 5.02 is compatible with a Mac Clasic II running System 7. I have run across problems with it dropping MIDI data. Even with just one track of bass drum data. My guess is that I need to upgrade to ver 5.2. Never had this problem on my Plus. Thanks in advance... Sean ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 00:47:35 GMT From: gomes@AMC.UVA.NL Subject: question A. Claassen on the Symbolic Composer I saw some information on the symbolic composer a time ago in the newsgroup COMP.MUSIC. There was a question about the meaning of the symbolic composer. So, I'm forwarding this letter to this newsgroup. I'm not connected in any way so do not e-mail ME but read close X-NEWS: news comp.music: 4661 Path: amcnix!news.sara.nl!sun4nl!hacktic!hacktic!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Virtual Music Workshop in London Message-ID: <1urco5INN883@xs4all.hacktic.nl> From: psto@hacktic.nl (psto) Date: 6 Jun 1993 02:11:35 +0200 Distribution: inet Organization: Hack-Tic, networking for the masses NNTP-Posting-Host: xs4all.hacktic.nl Lines: 109 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- S Y M B O L I C C O M P O S E R VIRTUAL MUSIC WORKSHOP CITY UNIVERSITY LONDON --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The First Virtual Music Workshop for Symbolic Composer Users will be held at City University during July in London. Proceedings from this workshop will be available on disk to all S-COM users worldwide. Symbolic Composer v2.2 implements the 6th Generation Common Music Language for the Macintosh and Atari. The language consists of 150 general purpose high-level commands that cover morphing, chord generation, user definable styles and libraries. Symbolic Composer is targeted for composers who are familiar with the limitations of MIDI sequencers and scorewriters, which focus on playing, recording, editing and presentation. Solutions such as MAX and Interactor already provide excellent support for performance but are unsuitable for composers creating large-scale multi-instrumental scores. Symbolic Composer collects together in one environment all the standard tools for designing and orginating music enabling pre-composition schemes and processes to be realised effectively as MIDI data, something few sequencers can begin to deal with. Symbolic Composer gives the composer 150 tools that are effective on any music, in any musical situation. With these tools composers can take control over every individual element and parameter applying advanced generation and processing techniques and algorithms. The final product is saved as industry standard MIDI file. Symbolic Composer is therefore the perfect partner on the Mac for Finale, MOTU Performer, Mosaic, Vision, Encore, Cubase, Mastertracks, Beyond and Notator Logic. On the Atari Symbolic Composer integrates with the Multi-Program Environment (MPE) of Dr.T's KCS and can reside with Cubase under the Switcher utility. Symbolic Composer has already attracted composers working in major commercial studio projects, experimental art music, and artifical intelligence research. It offers many unique advantages: o Simulation of real musicians through fractal generation and humanization makes a significant contribution to the economics of studio projects. o Achieve a significant profile amongst the market competition by realising more advanced projects, decreasing development time, and making more effective use, and reuse, of original design concepts and strategies. o Symbolic Composer's unique and extendable Library Manager gives access to many new resources for composition, from hardcore beats to Indian Decitalas, to Slonimsky's Thesaurus of Scales and Musical Patterns to the patterns of Balinese gamelan. o For Techno, Dance and New-Age composers Symbolic Composer gives access to binary rhythmics, morphing, fractal patterns, high-level data, and complex information bursts. Symbolic Composer is the result of a design partnership between A.I scientists, composers and music educators. It is visually oriented and interactive to use. It has probably the most carefully thought out and effective Tutorial Pathway, interactive Hypercard Guide and Music Supplement Support of any music software currently available today. Symbolic Composer accesses the chords, scales and composition routines of the western musical tradition. But, there is in addition an extensive library of powerful algorithms like the Lindenmayer System - developed to model the growth of plants, Brownian Noise - nature's very own randomizer, the Lorenz Attractor - the chaotic equation behind earth's atmospheric system and Teichmuller Space, the hottest fractal equation since the Mandelbrot. Other built-in algorithms include Neural Networks, Planetary Systems, Number&Ambient Theory, Fibonacci Series and Fourier Synthesis. Symbolic Composer also executes standard C and Common Lisp routines within the environment, which makes expansion and customization a reality. Symbolic Composer is available through selected channels in Europe. In the UK, Symbolic Composer is distributed exclusively by Mac software specialists Capedia (0727 869791). The user base is rapidly growing and the package has recently been acquired by IRCAM. Symbolic Composer will feature strongly at the Music Workshop held during the Edinburgh conference in Artificial Intelligence and Education, August 1993. For further information, please contact: Nigel Morgan Tonality Systems UK tel +44-924-383 017 fax +44-924-291 008 18 Park Avenue, Denby Dale Road, Wakefield, West Yorkshire, WF2 8DS, UK email 100024.1636@CompuServe.com Peter Stone Tonality Systems Amsterdam European Distribution tel&fax +31-20-6757 993 email psto@xs4all.hacktic.nl DISTRIBUTION INFORMATION UK #350, GERMANY 950 DM, FRANCE 2950 Ffr, ITALY 795000 Lire SHIPPING Add #5, 12 DM, 40 Ffr, 12000 Lire Allow 3 days of delivery. 1 day TNT Express shipping available on request. Symbolic Composer was first introduced in London Virtual Reality Show 92 by the UK Virtual Reality User Group. Demonstration music consisted of recursive AIDS RNA mappings and 10-dimensional superstrings. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1993 18:03:03 GMT From: gomes@AMC.UVA.NL Subject: Quick Score de luxe from Dr. T. I just looked at a software package (some 200 $) called Quick score de luxe from Dr. T . It supported the sound blaster and 16 voices. Ther should be a Windows version in about two weeks. Due to emulation problems (The shop owner tried to run it on a pc-emulation on a Atari and there were problems withe the mouse) I cuold not experiment with it. I want to compose with it, hear it via the soundblaster and print the score. I am not very interested in the midi connection with a keyboard/synthesizer. Has anybody experience with this software and can he recommand it (or must I look at another program) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1993 09:22:58 +0100 From: "Frans L.J. Hummelman" Subject: Roland R8/PD-software Hi, world, I'm looking for a dump/librarianprogram (preferably ATARI, otherwise DOS) for the ROLAND R8- drumcomposer. Does anyone know? Thanks anyway for reading, no quotes, it's early FLHUMMEL@KUB.NL IVA TILBURG HOLLAND ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 09:47:50 EDT From: Allen Ginsberg Subject: Simple midi question Can someone tell me what the mapping is from midi note numbers to pitches, e.g., midi note #35 corresponds to what pitch? thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 10:27:51 -0400 From: Chris Gray Subject: Re: Simple midi question Table 2: Summary of MIDI Note Numbers for Different Octaves (adapted from "MIDI by the Numbers" by D. Valenti - Electronic Musician 2/88) Octave|| Note Numbers # || || C | C# | D | D# | E | F | F# | G | G# | A | A# | B ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 0 || 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 1 || 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 2 || 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 3 || 36 | 37 | 38 | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 4 || 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 | 54 | 55 | 56 | 57 | 58 | 59 5 || 60 | 61 | 62 | 63 | 64 | 65 | 66 | 67 | 68 | 69 | 70 | 71 6 || 72 | 73 | 74 | 75 | 76 | 77 | 78 | 79 | 80 | 81 | 82 | 83 7 || 84 | 85 | 86 | 87 | 88 | 89 | 90 | 91 | 92 | 93 | 94 | 95 8 || 96 | 97 | 98 | 99 | 100 | 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | 107 9 || 108 | 109 | 110 | 111 | 112 | 113 | 114 | 115 | 116 | 117 | 118 | 119 10 || 120 | 121 | 122 | 123 | 124 | 125 | 126 | 127 | z MAILER UHCCUX 4/07/89 'lee@uhccux eharnden@auvm 4/07/89 notes.table __________________________________________________________________________ Chris Gray cgra@se.alcbel.be Compu$erve: 100065.2102 Ignore my broken mailer - the addresses above are the only truth __________________________________________________________________________ Talking about music is like dancing about architecture - FZ??? Q: How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb? A: Two. One to hold the girrafe and the other to fill the bathtub with brightly colored machine tools. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1993 16:33:37 -0500 From: Arne Claassen ISE Subject: Symbolic Composer I just received a message about a Virtual Music Workshop in London. The main focus of this announcement is on a piece of software called Symbolic Composer v2.2. It seems to be presented as Max on steroids. Has anyone else heard of this software or even used it? It only is distributed in Europe according to the announcement. It sounds like an interesting piece of software to play with. -AFC ---- claassen@ebs330.eb.uah.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1993 09:45:23 CDT From: John Eichenseer Subject: Re: Virtual Music Workshop in London Here's a blip that was posted to rec.music.synth about a new MIDI composition package. Has anybody seen/heard/used it? It sounds dangerously close to my wet dreams as far as a composition environment goes... -jhno eichen@trilogy.com ___ MORPH YOUR MUSIC WITH SYMBOLIC COMPOSER Whether you are a MIDI composer, a software developer, or involved in computer music research, Symbolic Composer offers a window on the future. Step through and you could save time and money, boost your creativity into new levels and realize the full potential of the MIDI system you have already invested in. S-COM is not a sequencer. Neither is it a scorewriter, a juke box, or a musical assembly language. Instead, S-COM is a high-level composition system. Only S-COM gives the following combination of application areas: + High-end Research + Commercial Studios + New Age Music + Street-level Techno. Welcome to Musical Engineering S-COM lets you compose large-scale multi-instrument pieces with full control of every individual element and parameter, exactly as you want. Binary rhythmics, fractal patterns, high-level data, and complex information bursts can now become part of your music. Simulate real musicians through fractal generation and humanization and boost the economics of studio projects. Gain power in market competition: + more advanced projects + decreased development time + more efficient usage of current studio investments + more artistic freedom. Access to extensive libraries from hardcore beats to Indian decitalas to Slonimsky's thesaurus. Define the rhythmics / tonalities / chord sequences of your own style to enhance your composing projects. S-COM is a revolutionary composition system for musicians - now available for your Mac or Atari. Buy Symbolic Composer Today Step through and realise the full potential of your MIDI system. Buy S-COM today at the special price of $495. Order Now! Ask your dealer for further information or call or write to Tonality Systems, the world's leading developer of Music Synthesizer Technology. System Requirements Symbolic Composer runs on all Mac and Atari models with at least 4 MB RAM and 4 MB hard disk space. System 6.07 or System 7 is required. Generate Industry Standard MIDI Files Generate MIDI files and play them on all sequencers and scorewriters, like Finale, Performer, Vision, Professional Composer, Encore, Cubase, Notator, Mastertracks, Beyond and Dr.T's KCS, just to name few of them. Run Symbolic Composer alongside your sequencer to get instant access on both. In Atari use Cubase M.ROS switcher or Dr.T's MPE to keep Symbolic Composer and your sequencer in memory at the same time. Import MIDI files for further processing. Edit Multiple Windows Open as many windows as required for editing different parts of your composition. Cut, copy and paste information between them. Use different fonts to highlite information. Install your files on multihierarchical folders menu. Write Your Masterpiece Write your masterpiece with the most powerful programming language for music yet developed on a computer. Define n scores per file with n instruments in a score without any limitation on the complexity of the instruments. Use full range of high-level tools that are effective for any type of music. Learn music language that lets you keep your music with you, without the hassle of low-level programming. Develop your own extensions in Symbolic Composer's interactive programming environment. Browse On-line Manual If you need advice while composing just position the cursor on an item and press the Browser** icon. A new window opens with the full documentation of that item. Read the documentation and paste the comprehensive working examples to your project window. Visualize Musical Ideas Press the Visualizer* icon and view any musical material in graphic form. See instantly how rhythms, melodies, tonalities and dynamics interact. See the relationships, find errors and interesting data. Get Help Intuitively - Instantly Look up any Symbolic Composer command in the Yellow-Pages**. The commands are categorized in logical groups making it intuitive to locate information you need. Each entry prints on screen a full example of how to use it. Access Unlimited Library Access an extensive bank of commercial and experimental music elements, from hardcore beats to Indian Decitalas to Slonimsky's Thesaurus. Store and retrieve melodies, tonalities, velocities, rhythms and zone controls of your own style. Humanize Naturally Use Brownian Noise, nature's very own randomizer to bring the most natural fluctuations to rhythm and velocity material. Control the Brownian Noise 'roughness' when humanizing velocity, note attack position, legato and articulation, and create natural 'mutations' on the tracks. Overpass Brownian Noise and used any data or generator to control the Humanizer. Morph Your Music Filter, shift, scroll, transpose, retrograde, invert, mix, analyze, convert and morph - not just melodies, but chords, rhythms, velocities and composition structures as well. Combine any of these commands at any level of complexity and apply them to any musical parameters, or data. Compose with Fractals&Chaos Generate powerful fractal and chaos data using Lindenmayer L-System and Lorenz Attractor, originally developed to model living plants and weather. Produce thrilling variants of your original musical ideas using Teichmller Space (hottest topic since "Mandelbroth set"), Fibonacci Series, Antenna Theory and Recursive Structures, or generate complex waveforms with unlimited number of voltage controlled oscillators, amplifiers, filters and mixers. Enhance your creativity with Fourier Synthesis, Number Theory or Solar Systems, and apply the generations to any parameters of your composition, or process them further. Use Advanced Chord Computer Use all common scales and chords found in western music and experiment with standard progressions or try more advanced forms, like those based on the Ambient Theory, Overtone Series or Symbol Maps. Create your own scales, chords and tonalities by generators or manually. Program Flexible Neurons Program neuron processors** to explore the far horizons of virtual composing. Each neuron can have any number of inputs from other neurons or commands, and any number of rules to determine the output from the inputs. The number of neurons is not restricted giving you the maximum freedom to build 'Societies of Mind' and boost your music into the gear of the far 90's. Create Your Working Environment Add new commands with full object-oriented CLOS Lisp programming* or with standard C language, and explore the musical possibilities of your favourite branch of stochastics, astronomy, physics or mathematics. Add new menus and save the system as a new double-clickable application to extend your working environment. Install your project files as part of the system for quick access. Welcome to Power-Composing Practise with the HyperCard Tour to get a glimpse of possibilities. Master Symbolic Composer from a detailed manual prepared by composers, who work with the system. Explore music extracts, tutorial sequences* and studies and ready-to-run examples. We know, this all sounds like science fiction, but the future has arrived. Now discover it with Symbolic Composer. Nigel Morgan Tonality Systems UK tel +44-924-383 017 fax +44-924-291 008 18 Park Avenue, Denby Dale Road, Wakefield, West Yorkshire, WF2 8DS, UK email 100024.1636@CompuServe.com Peter Stone Tonality Systems Amsterdam European Distribution tel&fax +31-20-6757 993 email psto@xs4all.hacktic.nl DISTRIBUTION INFORMATION UK #350, GERMANY 950 DM, FRANCE 2950 Ffr, ITALY 795000 Lire SHIPPING Add #5, 12 DM, 40 Ffr, 12000 Lire Allow 3 days of delivery. 1 day TNT Express shipping available on request. US $495, SHIPPING ADD $19, 1 WEEK DELIVERY TNT Express 2 day door-to-door delivery to USA costs $115 HOW TO ORDER We do have in stock the Symbolic Composer, and your order can be processed instantly. We accept only prepaid orders, made by direct wire transfer. The payment is made easily in your local bank. The package is shipped when the payment arrives. Please include the model and your name into the payment info field for quick recognition. PAY ON THIS ACCOUNT: Receiver: Inzake Tonality Systems Bank: ABN AMRO Account number: 43.21.76.373 Z Branch: 2391, Address: Koninginneweg 275, Postbus 75263, 1070 AG Amsterdam, Netherlands Note: It takes 2-5 days before we get a note from our bank of your payment. If you need more than one copy, please ask for full quotation. 3 and 10 user licences available for universities and music research institutes. Yours Truly, Peter Stone Tonality Systems ----- End Included Message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1993 07:36:48 +0000 From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Virtual Music Workshop in London Hmm. Reading between the lines: it's not an interactive MIDI system at all; it might not even do MIDI. The requirement for System 6.0.7/7.0 on Macs suggests it uses onboard sound, and isn't too MIDI aware (no SysEx, etc.); it's a MIDI file processor. Rather interesting, I admit, but don't sell your copy of MAX just yet... Nick Rothwell | cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************