EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 57, Issue 19 This issue's topics: cheapy line-to-mike attenuator (2 messages) GEM 3 JV-880 & Controller or JV-80 JV-880 & Controller or JV80 Kawai K4 Looking for a Tape for an old KORG Synth: Looking for PSR-500 users. (2 messages) Midi applications:Group Piano? Morpheus pitch shifter (4 messages) Pitch to MIDI Converters simple sampler question. sound engines/bundle packages for low $ (2 messages) Yamaha psr-70 Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 17:14:36 CDT From: "Kevan L. Moore" Subject: cheapy line-to-mike attenuator Hello. any line-level-to-mike-level schematics out there? klm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 20:40:20 -0700 From: Michael O'Hara Subject: Re: cheapy line-to-mike attenuator >From Mic -> O------\/\/\/\/--------O-------\/\/\/\/------O <- Gnd 22K To Input 1K This should work. change the 1K Resistor to change the "output" level. (proportionally to R value) Use metal film resistors in demanding applications. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 14:02:53 +0100 From: Martin Grecner Subject: GEM 3 Hello, I'm looking for any information on sampler GEM 3 from General Music. It uses Motorola 68302 processor and should be able of reading files in SampleVision or Avalon format. If anyone knows something about it, or about where to find some SampleVison or Avalon samples, please let me know. Thank you very much. Martin Grecner martin@elf.stuba.sk Bratislava Slovakia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 16:10:51 GMT From: "Dipak M. Patel" Subject: JV-880 & Controller or JV-80 I've decided to get the JV-880, and I need a MIDI controller (Roland A-3 0). Someone asked me why I'm getting two units when I could just get the JV-80 instead. I couln't answer him. I need to decide now which route I want to go. Is there any advantages for one route over the other? I'm relatively new to MIDI and electronic music. So far I have an LC, M aster Trax Pro and an Alesis SR-16 drum machine. I desperately need some keys. Do you think that one of these paths is the way for me to go? Why or why not? One more thing, since I'm new to this scene, what steps do you think I s hould take to aquire some more knowledge about electronic music. (Books, class, etc.). Thanx. Dipak Patel dpatel@motown.ge.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 18:35:49 CET From: Jack Latanowicz Subject: Re: JV-880 & Controller or JV80 On Tue, 5 Oct 1993 16:10:51 GMT Dipak M. Patel said: > I've decided to get the JV-880, and I need a MIDI controller (Roland >A-3 >0). >Someone asked me why I'm getting two units when I could just get the JV-80 >instead. >I couln't answer him. I need to decide now which route I want to go. Is there >any advantages for one route over the other? > One of reasons You should get JV880 is that JV80 costs 2x more. The best option is to have some master keyboard and lots and lots of modules... Jack L. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jack Latanowicz tel/fax Pl-(0-61) 798-202 Ul.Porzeczkowa 27 Jack@plpuam11.bitnet 61-306 Poznan P O L A N D "exploring life is the sense of living..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 11:14:36 -0400 From: "There's a seeker born every minute." Subject: Kawai K4 Does anyone have a Kawai K4 in southeast NH / northeastern MA area they'd be willing to let me try? I've called all the music stores I know of in my area and none stock the K4. I'm in Durham New Hampshire by the way. I'd rather not drive any further south than Beverly, MA. I'm driving down to Beverly later today to visit my folks for awhile. - Dana dmn@kepler.unh.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 14:37:02 -0500 From: Mark Allemang Subject: Looking for a Tape for an old KORG Synth: I have an old Korg Poly6 Synth (from the dark ages pre MIDI) and I would like to get a copy of the original cassette tape containing the factory settings (presets). If anyone knows someone (other than me) who still has one of these dinosaurs please send a message to me (directly please as I am no longer subscribed to EMUSIC). Thank-you Mark Allemang mallemang@acs.saultc.on.ca Mark Allemang Sault College Sault Ste. Marie, Ont. Canada ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 09:47:59 EDT From: Rich Gautier Subject: Looking for PSR-500 users. Anyone on this list have a PSR-500 keyboard? If so, I would like to correspond with you on a person-to-person basis. It seems I am having a hard time setting seperate voices for each MIDI channel, and also in dumping SYSEX data to my MPU401. Rich Gautier rg%seta%drc@s1.drc.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 14:58:39 EST From: JOHN ALBERT PINION Subject: Re: Looking for PSR-500 users. Me too. PINIONJA@lp.musc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 11:07:35 CST From: FA19000 Subject: Midi applications:Group Piano? I'm looking for ways to use our midi compatible keyboards in teaching group piano. We have a Roland Teaching Laboratory System TL-12 but don't use their midi capabilities. We might be getting computers soon to hook up to each piano with Finale and possibly Master Tracks Pro or some other sequencing program. But what exactly are some specific examples of using midi technology in teaching this course? Also, are there other conferences on which I could pose this question? Janice Saffir Piano Faculty, Northeast Missouri State U. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 18:41:38 BST From: "Steven D. Bramson" Subject: Morpheus At 10 Mbytes per stereo minute it would be tricky to upload a 3 minute demo. I guess I could make an 8 bit mono recording and compress it. Also I havn't had my CD-ROM for long and I havn't worked out how to sample from it yet through the sound card. When I get time ... !!! Perhaps Z-plane synthesis is a gimick name rather than a reflection of the technique used (how does Linear Arithmetic synthesis work?). To my mind a plane is a 2D object but you may wish to consider it in a 3D or 4D (or ND) space. At any rate it is not difficult to imagine adding a third axis to mike metlay's vector synthesis explanation. The future music article says "Velocity, pressure, pitch and so on can all be assigned to control movements through 8 14-pole filters, giving a high level of control over the expressiveness of sounds" Eat that techie guys! Steven D Bramson Data Management Group JET Joint Undertaking Abingdon Oxfordshire OX14 3EA United Kingdom E-mail sdb@jet.uk Voice 0235 465 013 Fax 0235 465 399 ------------------------------------------------------------------ JET is Europe's fusion research project Disclaimer: Any views expressed are mine and do not represent those of JET ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 16:19:23 CDT From: "Kevan L. Moore" Subject: pitch shifter is there anyone on this list in huntsville/birmingham alabama with a pitch shifter i could use (with appropriate compensation)? not like the VHM-5 vocalist, but the plain old 45rpm played at 33rpm sound. i'm trying to condense the bible on audio tapes so their total playing time is 60% of its original. play the tape fast, pitch-shift it back to normal, sample it, remove silence of a threshold duration & time and voila. but i need a pitch shifter first. actually, does anyone know if any of the D/A A/D cards for the pc come with pitch-shifting functions? i know the EPS-16 can do it with 3rd party software. i just need it for a little while & don't want to lay out $1K. anyone? anyone? klm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 16:54:27 -0500 From: Arne Claassen ISE Subject: Re: pitch shifter > > is there anyone on this list in huntsville/birmingham alabama with a pitch > shifter i could use (with appropriate compensation)? not like the VHM-5 > vocalist, but the plain old 45rpm played at 33rpm sound. i'm trying to > condense the bible on audio tapes so their total playing time is 60% of its > original. play the tape fast, pitch-shift it back to normal, sample it, > remove silence of a threshold duration & time and voila. but i need a pitch > shifter first. > > actually, does anyone know if any of the D/A A/D cards for the pc come with > pitch-shifting functions? i know the EPS-16 can do it with 3rd party > software. i just need it for a little while & don't want to lay out $1K. I don't quite think that you really need a pitch shifter, since they distort sound horribly to achieve the real time time compression. For your task you might just want to get a hold of a tape player that has a pitch adjust knob. Or here is another idea: Get one of those double speed cpoying decks and instead of feeding the double speed into another tape, feed it into the sampler. Then again, doing this high speed record and then playing it back at a lower pitch has the same effects in terms of sound quality and memory as sampling at a lower sampling rate (say 22KHz). A lot easier this way, too. Either way, you'll loose the higher pitch definition and gain bass. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Arne F. Claassen | | | | "It is by my will alone I set my mind in motion" | | finger for PGP public key | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 09:59:25 -0500 From: Dean Keith Subject: pitch shifter >> >> is there anyone on this list in huntsville/birmingham alabama with a pitch >> shifter i could use (with appropriate compensation)? not like the VHM-5 >> vocalist, but the plain old 45rpm played at 33rpm sound. i'm trying to >> condense the bible on audio tapes so their total playing time is 60% of its >> original. play the tape fast, pitch-shift it back to normal, sample it, >> remove silence of a threshold duration & time and voila. but i need a pitch >> shifter first. >> >I don't quite think that you really need a pitch shifter, since they >distort sound horribly to achieve the real time time compression. For your >task you might just want to get a hold of a tape player that has a pitch >adjust knob. Or here is another idea: Get one of those double speed >cpoying decks and instead of feeding the double speed into another tape, >feed it into the sampler. > Arne, I'm affreaid you've missed Klm's point. Essentially he wants to speed up the reading of the Bible 60% without changing the pitch. He plans to do this by speeding it up, and then pitching it back down (while still leaving it fast) Everything you said was correct, but will not solve Klh's problem. The olny other way to accomplish this task is to get a Sampler, or PC utility that can transform speed without affecting pitch. The Bible is a "little bit" too long for most samplers (or hard drives for that matter) so I think the original idea is the best choice. Klh, t long distance from you. If you get desperate, write me, and we may be able to work something out. I would be willing to sell it for a fairly cheap price, since it's not used very often. ______________________________________________________________________________ Dean Keith dkeith@tarleton.edu Tarleton State University Stephenville, Texas, USA ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 12:21:39 -0500 From: Arne Claassen ISE Subject: pitch shifter > I'm affreaid you've missed Klm's point. Essentially he wants to speed up the > reading of the Bible 60% without changing the pitch. He plans to do this by > speeding it up, and then pitching it back down (while still leaving it fast) > > Everything you said was correct, but will not solve Klh's problem. The olny > other way to accomplish this task is to get a Sampler, or PC utility that can > transform speed without affecting pitch. The Bible is a "little bit" too long >for most samplers (or hard drives for that matter) so I think the original idea > is the best choice. Ok, i missed the point. I thought it was supposed to be the same sound just using the pitch shifter to conserve sample space. I still stay with the point that a pitch shifter would be inappropriate for this task, because of the distortion. If you record the reading through a pitch shifter than pitch the sample to the original pitch, then the voice will sound like some growling demonic voice, which is a great effect for lyrics but not appropriate for reading the bible. On the other hand, there is a public domain (maybe shareware) utility for the Macintosh that will do time compression on a sound file. It doesn't care how large the sample file is, but i'll tell you that without a fast Mac with FPU, you'll be sitting there for a while. Still the time of letting this run overnight and getting good quality time compression is cheaper than getting a pitch-shifter. For that matter since I am local to Birmingham, i could do it on my Mac if no Mac is available... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Arne F. Claassen | | | | "It is by my will alone I set my mind in motion" | | finger for PGP public key | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 10:29:18 +22306512 From: Ken Fansler Subject: Pitch to MIDI Converters Does anyone know if a pitch to MIDI converter exists that will work with an acoustic double bass? Thanks - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 15:07:44 +0100 From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: simple sampler question. >Personally, i've never heard of a unitimbral >sampler, unless it is also monophonic Akai S612? (Unitimbral, 6-voice I think.) Nick Rothwell | cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 22:17:19 -0500 From: Mark Swann Subject: sound engines/bundle packages for low $ been shopping around,, for a music workstation,, the kurzweil looks good,, but,, Im also looking at these really inexpensive sound engines, like (the recent EM zine) the Korg X3 board, or the turtle beach daughter boards,(299-500$),, or the roland board that comes bundled with the PG software (those ads that show the 29$ sequencer) ... does anyone have these? do they sound worth a dog? Also, that new Kawaii-ll plus the Akai-s01 sampler seems like a good combo,, that would be a lot less than a kurzweil. .. anyway,, anyone thats heard those plug in cards for the pc, feedback would be appreciated ;) .. There are none here in town set up yet. Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 11:37:47 -0400 From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: sound engines/bundle packages for low $ >been shopping around,, for a music workstation,, the kurzweil looks >good,, but,, Im also looking at these really inexpensive sound engines, >like (the recent EM zine) the Korg X3 board, or the turtle beach >daughter boards,(299-500$),, or the roland board that comes bundled >with the PG software (those ads that show the 29$ sequencer) You seem to be talking at cross purposes here. Do you want a "workstation" (i.e., nearly-everything-in-one keyboard), or a sound board (no keyboard)? DO you already have a keyboard to use for input? I think you may find that input via the typewriter keyboard or a mouse to be a nightmare. -- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 14:14:59 -0700 From: dv8 Subject: Yamaha psr-70 I have one, but have lost the overlay that cae with it. I was a plastic sheet that layed over the buttons and swithches. When you held down the 'midi mode' button, each of the instrument voice buttons and accompianment buttons, became something different (ie clock sync, etc). Does anyone out there possibly have an overlay or know where to get one? It's an 1986 model. Thanks... ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************