EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 58, Issue 05 This issue's topics: Where can I get electronic music on CD (9 messages) Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 15:05:11 GMT From: Alan Semon Subject: Re: Where can I get electronic music on CD Adam Neil Villani (addam@cco.caltech.edu) wrote: : BTW, is anybody else out there into Avant Garde stuff and unimpressed with : John Cage's stuff. It's all pretty interesting, but it mostly sounds like crap : to me. IMHO, of course. A long time ago, say 15 or 16 years, I saw a modern dance performance in Boston which featured John Cage's music performed LIVE. I don't recall if it was JC himself, but rumour has it it was. The "music" was difficult on the ears and most assuredly difficult on the piano. Needless to say, the dancing was equally as difficult on the eyes! My SO at the time was a music major at Boston Conservatory of Music and thought the music was ... "interesting" and the dancing was "unique." I could not get out of the place fast enough. That was my one and only experience with Cage's music. -- //////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ | Life is a three letter word! AD&CS Alan Semon | | LogiChem Inc. | | asemon@elwood.esu.edu | //////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 10:51:32 -0500 From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: Where can I get electronic music on CD >Hello, > >I'm interested in finding out where I might be able to get my hands on >CDs of early electronic music. The record label Deutch Gramaphonne (sp?) >had an LP of Stockhausen's classics Kontakte and Gesang der Junglinge, >I'm not sure if it made it to CD. Also I would like to hear Hymnen. Here is the contact address for Karlheinz Stockhausen: Stockhausen Verlag Kettenberg 15 " 51515 K"urten ("u is for u umlaut, write ue or u) Germany You should be able to get "Kontakte" and "Gesang" from here. >Has much of the early electronic music of the 50s through 70s made it >to CD? Stuff like Subotnik, Babbitt, Xenakis, Luening, Ussachevsky, >Schaeffer, etc. all those guys who pioneered stuff like tape manipulation >and new ways of sound synthesis and composition. Yep. I still want Subotnick's "Sidewinder" on CD. Good stuff! --- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 10:51:36 -0500 From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: Where can I get electronic music on CD >BTW, is anybody else out there into Avant Garde stuff and unimpressed with >John Cage's stuff. It's all pretty interesting, but it mostly sounds like crap >to me. IMHO, of course. Try the Sonatas for Prepared Piano sometime. I happen to like them a lot. Most of the stuff with David Tudor doesn't really do much for me either. (Does anyone remember me mentioning that some percussion ensemble had *recorded* 4'33"?) --- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 16:10:07 EST From: Larry R Larson Subject: Re: Where can I get electronic music on CD > > >BTW, is anybody else out there into Avant Garde stuff and unimpressed with > >John Cage's stuff. It's all pretty interesting, but it mostly sounds like cr ap > >to me. IMHO, of course. > > Try the Sonatas for Prepared Piano sometime. I happen to like them a lot. > Most of the stuff with David Tudor doesn't really do much for me either. > (Does anyone remember me mentioning that some percussion ensemble had > *recorded* 4'33"?) > > --- Joe M. > or the early string quartet, or the late "Dances for orchestra", or ectt. etc. etc. A recording 4'33" actually makes sense, once you understand what he was doing. Cage is to Babbitt (or Carter, or Wuorinen) as Debussy was to Brahms. (BTW, I love Carter, Wuorinen, and Brahms. ) Cage changed the way some of us think of Music -- Feldman cannot be understood without him, for example. The current Cage show (and it's catalog) at the L.A. Museum of Contemp. Art is magnificent. Larry Larson Wexner Center for the Arts ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 01:45:28 GMT From: Rikhardur H Fridriksson Subject: Re: Where can I get electronic music on CD >>Hello, >> >>I'm interested in finding out where I might be able to get my hands on >>CDs of early electronic music. The record label Deutch Gramaphonne >>(sp?) >>had an LP of Stockhausen's classics Kontakte and Gesang der Junglinge, >>I'm not sure if it made it to CD. Also I would like to hear Hymnen. >Here is the contact address for Karlheinz Stockhausen: > Stockhausen Verlag > Kettenberg 15 ??? 51515 K"urten ??? ("u is for u umlaut, write ue or u) > Germany The disc you're looking for is called: Stockhausen 3: Electronische Musik 1952-1960. This disc (and the complete Stockhausen lecacy) can be ordered from the above address (though my sources list the post-code as 5067 K"urten. It is accompanied by extensive program notes, to say the least. Rikhardur H. Fridriksson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 05:00:01 GMT From: Robert Paul Martino Jr Subject: Re: Where can I get electronic music on CD In article <9311020145.AA02868@rvik.ismennt.is> Rikhardur H Fridriksson writes: >>Here is the contact address for Karlheinz Stockhausen: > >> Stockhausen Verlag >> Kettenberg 15 >??? 51515 K"urten ??? ("u is for u umlaut, write ue or u) >> Germany > >The disc you're looking for is called: > > Stockhausen 3: Electronische Musik 1952-1960. > >This disc (and the complete Stockhausen lecacy) can be ordered from the >above address (though my sources list the post-code as 5067 K"urten. It >is accompanied by extensive program notes, to say the least. Can I get this disc in the United States somewhere? How much would it cost to buy it from Germany? Rob -- Rob Martino _|_ "Do you know how lucky you are you even martino@wpi.wpi.edu | HAVE cereal?...why, when I was your Worcester, Massachusetts | age, we ate wood and rocks!"- Ren John 3:16 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 11:28:32 GMT From: Rikhardur H Fridriksson Subject: Re: Where can I get electronic music on CD >>>Here is the contact address for Karlheinz Stockhausen: >>> >>> Stockhausen Verlag >>> Kettenberg 15 >>> ??? 51515 K"urten ??? ("u is for u umlaut, write ue or u) >>> Germany >>The disc you're looking for is called: >> >> Stockhausen 3: Electronische Musik 1952-1960. >> >>This disc (and the complete Stockhausen lecacy) can be ordered from the >>above address (though my sources list the post-code as 5067 K"urten. It >>is accompanied by extensive program notes, to say the least. >Can I get this disc in the United States somewhere? How much would >it cost to buy it from Germany? You can probably get it in some of the big record shops, Tower Records f.ex., or from stores that specialize in Classical music. Whether you get it from there or from Germany, it's going to cost you dearly. I got in Holland for 88 Guilders (ca. 50 US Dollars), roughly double the normal CD price in Holland. Part of the reason for the price are the extensive program notes (184 pages) that accompany the disc. Rikhardur H. Fridriksson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 04:10:16 GMT From: Liam S Dunch Subject: Re: Where can I get electronic music on CD addam@cco.caltech.edu (Adam Neil Villani) writes: > > BTW, is anybody else out there into Avant Garde stuff and unimpressed with > John Cage's stuff. It's all pretty interesting, but it mostly sounds like crap > to me. IMHO, of course. > I think, from my C20th music history courses, that Cage is interesting for the way he approached composition, rather than for the aesthetic appeal of the end product. He was a true trail-blazer in the fifties and sixties who liberated other composers from some of the artificial strictures they had been working under. He is particularly noted for his use of chance in composition, and for his attitudes towards sound and what was appropriate sound for a piece of 'music'.(e.g. his famous piece " 4'53" "; the prepared piano pieces). As to whether or not you like to listen to his music, I guess that's up to your personal taste and experience, but I thought you might be interested in the comments. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 03:32:57 GMT From: Adam Neil Villani Subject: Re: Where can I get electronic music on CD In article , Liam S Dunch wrote: >addam@cco.caltech.edu (Adam Neil Villani) writes: >> >> BTW, is anybody else out there into Avant Garde stuff and unimpressed with >> John Cage's stuff. It's all pretty interesting, but it mostly sounds like crap >> to me. IMHO, of course. >> >I think, from my C20th music history courses, that Cage is interesting for >the way he approached composition, rather than for the aesthetic appeal of >the end product. He was a true trail-blazer in the fifties and sixties >who liberated other composers from some of the artificial strictures they >had been working under. He is particularly noted for his use of chance in >composition, and for his attitudes towards sound and what was appropriate >sound for a piece of 'music'.(e.g. his famous piece " 4'53" "; the >prepared piano pieces). > >As to whether or not you like to listen to his music, I guess that's up to >your personal taste and experience, but I thought you might be >interested in the comments. Certainly. I like to think of John Cage more as a philosopher who worked through music than a composer. I still like to listen to new Cage pieces, just because they're all interesting things to be exposed to. I just wouldn't really want to buy any of his stuff to listen to multiple times. Actually, I like his three Constructions. --------------------- Adam Villani addam@cco.caltech.edu "Passing time will reach as nature relays to set the scene New encounters spark a true fruition Guiding lines we touch them Our bodies balance out the waves As we accelerate our days To the look in your eyes" ---Yes,"Sound Chaser" -- Disclaimer: Everything I say conforms exactly to Caltech's official position on the subject, whatever it may be. ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************