EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 63, Issue 09 This issue's topics: MIDI over Modem program for Mac (11 messages) Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:42:49 EDT From: "B. Kirsch" Subject: MIDI over Modem program for Mac I just wrote a program that allows you to play MIDI over a modem, using the Mac. If anyone wants a copy, drop me a note. If there is enough interest, I will upload it. Here is a blurb from the readme file. comMIDI 1.0 Copyright (c)1994 Barry Kirsch Introduction This program, comMIDI (pronounced like comedy) allows two-way MIDI connection through a modem using a Macintosh computer. Some applications for this program are to allow remote rehearsals, collaborations, jamming or performances. How about an organist calling in from home to do a performance. You will probably need another phone to hear what's going on. You can also hook up to your cellular telephone to get (expensive) wireless MIDI. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 14:08:50 BST From: Stephen Deutsch Subject: Re: MIDI over Modem program for Mac > > I just wrote a program that allows you to play MIDI over a modem, using the Mac. > If anyone wants a copy, drop me a note. If there is enough interest, > I will upload it. Here is a blurb from the readme file. > > comMIDI 1.0 > Copyright (c)1994 Barry Kirsch > > Introduction > > This program, comMIDI (pronounced like comedy) allows two-way MIDI > connection through a modem using a Macintosh computer. Some applications > for this program are to allow remote rehearsals, collaborations, jamming > or performances. How about an organist calling in from home to do a > performance. You will probably need another phone to hear what's going on. > You can also hook up to your cellular telephone to get (expensive) > wireless MIDI. Yes Please. May I have one? Stephen Deutsch Digital Music Studio Bournemouth University> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- JANET: sdeutsch@uk.ac.bournemouth Talbot Campus World: sdeutsch@bournemouth.ac.uk Fern Barrow, Poole Phone: 0202 595102 Fax: 595530 Dorset, BH12 5BB, UK ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 13:37:27 EDT From: Wade Culbreath Subject: Re: MIDI over Modem program for Mac >I just wrote a program that allows you to play MIDI over a modem, using the >Mac. >If anyone wants a copy, drop me a note. If there is enough interest, >I will upload it. Here is a blurb from the readme file. >comMIDI 1.0 >Copyright (c)1994 Barry Kirsch >Introduction >This program, comMIDI (pronounced like comedy) allows two-way MIDI >connection through a modem using a Macintosh computer. Some >applications >for this program are to allow remote rehearsals, collaborations, jamming >or performances. How about an organist calling in from home to do a >performance. You will probably need another phone to hear what's going on. >You can also hook up to your cellular telephone to get (expensive) >wireless MIDI. Barry, Would this program work with the Opcode Studio 3 Interface? I use both ports for midi and if I want to use my modem, I have to push a little thru button disabling the midi connection. This means that I have to choose between a modem or midi connection as they are mutually exclusive. I'm not sure, but aren't all Opcode midi interfaces like this? I think everyone should have a program like this! Wade Culbreath Drumkat000@aol.com PS I have a similar program called Midiphone although I haven't tried to use it yet. Has anyone checked this one out? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:54:26 -0500 From: Arne Claassen ISE Subject: Re: MIDI over Modem program for Mac > Would this program work with the Opcode Studio 3 Interface? I use both ports > for midi and if I want to use my modem, I have to push a little thru button > disabling the midi connection. This means that I have to choose between a > modem or midi connection as they are mutually exclusive. I'm not sure, but > aren't all Opcode midi interfaces like this? Well, with the Studio3 and pretty much all others, you'd use the Modem and printer port for MIDI and each can be individually selected/deselected. So you could run 16 channels of midi through the printer port and use the modem through the modem port. Sure, you wouldn't have the full 32 channels, but that would bog down the modem anyhow. Also, by keeping the printer port for MIDI to the Studio three you can still do SMPTE sync, while if you were running on only the modem port, you'd loose SMPTE sync. -- Arne F. Claassen ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- <<< From "Netwhore Incantations": Blessed be thy MIDI implementation >>> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 11:56:49 -0600 From: Roy Breiling Subject: Re: MIDI over Modem program for Mac Yes, I'm interested. Send more info on how to download. Thank you. Roy E. Breiling Eastern Arizona College ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 14:18:11 -0500 From: DEMOLITION MAN Subject: Re: MIDI over Modem program for Mac Has anyone heard of something like this for us pc fans? Phil sps5251@siena.bitnet p.s. aren't the baud rates incompatible? I think midi runs at 32 kbps and my modem runs 14.4, 57.6 w/ data compression. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:12:51 CST From: jrt72269@ACUVAX.ACU.EDU Subject: Re: MIDI over Modem program for Mac I Would like a copy as well if possible. I am also wondering if ther is a way to us midi over Appleshare? If you know of any applicatons that deal with this idea please pass the imfo on to me! Thanks JRT72269@ACUVAX.ACU.EDU Jesse P.S. You aught to upload your program to the Info-Mac ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:15:11 -0700 From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: MIDI over Modem program for Mac Phil wrote: >Has anyone heard of something like this for us pc fans? >[...] >p.s. aren't the baud rates incompatible? I think midi runs at 32 kbps >and my modem runs 14.4, 57.6 w/ data compression. This is one of the few nice things about a Mac. Eeep! I mean this is *yet another* nice thing about the Mac*. ;-) The Mac supports much higher baud rates than a standard PC can hope to. However, Macs are stuck with the _same_ modems as PC users are. I have actually sent MIDI data over a serial line at 9600 baud, and it was OK, but you can't send huge amounts of info that is supposed to be played all at the same time. For instance, trying to play an eight note chord resulted in a perceptable "arpeggio" effect. (For you curious types, this was two PCs, one with a sound card.) You can "get away" with the slower speed, as long as you don't try to stack up a whole bunch of notes at the same time. (Or if you try to send 1/64th note triplets!) Ultimately, a MIDI board is nothing but a faster serial port, so the actual algorithm and code is the same, just sent to a different port. Gee, am I the only one that's used MIDI ports for a cheap, yet fairly high speed LAN? (You can run some of them faster than 31.25k...) I can see it now, "Get faster printing with our new MIDI-printer interface!" -Doug *OK, for you humour challenged types, that was JUST A JOKE, OK???!!!! I use Macs every day, whether I need to or not... Mac vs. PC is like the abortion argument. If you're against one, don't have one. Just don't interfere with my right to choose which one *I* want, you evangelist you. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 17:22:25 EDT From: "B. Kirsch" Subject: Re: MIDI over Modem program for Mac JRT72269@ACUVAX.ACU.EDU writes: >I am also wondering if ther is a way to us midi over Appleshare? The MIDI drivers that I use do not work if AppleTalk is on. >P.S. You aught to upload your program to the Info-Mac I may upload comMIDI at a later date, but I would rather have personal communications with those that are interested. If people just download the program, I have no way to judge the level of interest. So I will email it to you. comMIDI.hqx is less than 50K. Some have asked about the limitations of sending MIDI at rates slower than the 31.25 K. Doug Wellington hit on most of the issues. I haven't tested at slower than 9600. At that rate, there is perceptible delay. I recommend a modem with built-in compression. I have a menu that allows you to filter certain MIDI events, such as active sensing, pitch bend, after touch, etc. and this helps a little. Now, if someone can figure out how to get digitized audio in the MIDI stream (through some sort of multiplexed sysex dump), that would be something to really get excited about. Nice talking with you. Keep those cards and letters coming. -Barry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 08:51:37 +1000 From: Suzanne Lawrence Subject: Re: MIDI over Modem program for Mac >I just wrote a program that allows you to play MIDI over a modem, using the >Mac. >If anyone wants a copy, drop me a note. If there is enough interest, >I will upload it. Here is a blurb from the readme file. > >comMIDI 1.0 >Copyright (c)1994 Barry Kirsch > Please send me a copy too. More fun in MIDI. Suzanne Lawrence ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 05:14:51 -0400 From: gert braakman Subject: Re: MIDI over Modem program for Mac >>I just wrote a program that allows you to play MIDI over a modem, using the >>Mac. >>If anyone wants a copy, drop me a note. If there is enough interest, >>I will upload it. Here is a blurb from the readme file. >Please send me a copy too. > Gert Braakman (braakman@runner.knoware.nl) > ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************