EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 64, Issue 07 This issue's topics: Matrix 6 vs Matrix 1000 (10 messages) Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 15:53:24 -0400 From: Neil Leonard Subject: Matrix 6 vs Matrix 1000 Can anyone recommend the Matrix 1000 over the Matrix 6. I know the Matrix 6 has more of a front panel and does not need a computer for editing sounds. Does one sound better that the other or have more polyphonic, multi timberal or modulation possibilities? Thanks, Neil Leonard Berklee College of Music ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 16:07:01 -0400 From: Thom Subject: Re: Matrix 6 vs Matrix 1000 Matrix 6 and 1000 are the same beast except that the 1000 is designed as primarily a preset box. no difference in polyphony, timberality, or mod. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 14:46:47 PDT From: Casey Dunn Subject: Re: Matrix 6 vs Matrix 1000 uh, I think the M6 uses analog VCOs and the m1k uses digital VCOs. could be wrong. c a s e y ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 20:07:32 -0700 From: David Chandler Subject: Re: Matrix 6 vs Matrix 1000 On Fri, 20 May 1994, Neil Leonard wrote: > Can anyone recommend the Matrix 1000 over the Matrix 6. I know the > Matrix 6 has more of a front panel and does not need a computer > for editing sounds. That reminds me, does anyone have the tape of the 1000 patches you used to be able to buy from Oberheim? I have a Matrix-6, and would love to get these patches. Better yet, how about the patch editor? I use an Atari ST (1040) to sequence (it's actually quite good with KCSII sequencer...) and don't have a midi'd pc. > > Does one sound better that the other or have more polyphonic, multi > timberal or modulation possibilities? You can split the keyboard for the Matrix-6, but its not multi-timbral. I was hopeful when I first found one, because I found a function that lets you map each patch to a different MIDI channel (!) Someone correct me if I'm wrong about it not being multi-timbral, please! It is 6 note polyphonic. Buy a power spike/protector/UPS/something, 'cause I've been waiting for mine to come back from a shop for 6 months!!! A power spike blew one of the main IC's (chip) and, while Peavey (I think), still provides parts for later Oberheim stuff, there must be some looonnnnggggg backorder list or something!! David Chandler - chandler@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us (503)241-2949 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 08:18:27 +0100 From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Matrix 6 vs Matrix 1000 >Matrix 6 and 1000 are the same beast except that the 1000 is designed >as primarily a preset box. no difference in polyphony, timberality, >or mod. Wrong: M-6 is bitimbral and has two audio outs. Nick Rothwell CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance nick@cassiel.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 15:24:00 MET From: Andrea TONI Subject: Re: Matrix 6 vs Matrix 1000 > Can anyone recommend the Matrix 1000 over the Matrix 6. I know the > Matrix 6 has more of a front panel and does not need a computer > for editing sounds. well .. editing from the panel 187 parameters with an LCD is a real pain ! I'll suggest a computer editor for both machine anyway > Does one sound better that the other or have more polyphonic, multi > timberal or modulation possibilities? I have never try an M6/M6R .. but I do have 2 M1000 that I often play togheter with detune +12 on one and -12 on the other one .. quite effective . 2xM1000 are smaller 2 rack unit and probably cheaper .. and I may buy another one to play with detune at 0 ???? the M6 is I guess bi-timbral (3+3 voice) and has 2 out the M1000 is monotimbral (6 voice) and has 1 out only last OS version on m1000 1.1 .. I don't know on the M6 .. anyway .. some expert said to me .. ----------- Yes, true, definitely. The 3396 is a vcf-vca-and-half-a-dco-chip. The '1000 and the '6/6R and MS-6 all use DCO's, in the sense that the oscillator frequency is digitally counted down from a master hi-frequency oscillator. However, in the '1000 and MS-6, this oscillator is common to all voices and oscillators, whereas the '6/6R uses separate hi-freq-oscillators for the two oscillators in a voice, hence a more 'analog' (i.e. random) pitch shift between the oscillators. --------------- > Woshhh !! the 6R Osc are as DCO as the 1000 as far as I remember .. Well, yes, they're DCO's in one sense, but in the 6R the frequency for the two oscillators is derived from two seperate non-synced high frequency oscillators (actually four I think, since it is splittable) so two oscs in a voice are never really synced...whereas the 1000 derives its frequencies from a common oscillator - crystal controlled I think, as opposed to the 6/6R. --------------- > Neil Leonard > Berklee College of Music I have a long log-file with m1000/m6 hints, tell me your e-mail and I'll send it to you .. Ciao, ------------------------------------------------ENV---ENV---ENV---------------- Andrea TONI (andrea@sihp03.si.estec.esa.nl) | | | Solar System and Space VCO-->VCF-->VCA--> DUCATI 900SS Science Division (SO) | | | ------------------------------------------------LFO---LFO---LFO---------------- --< mongoloid, he was a mongoloid happier then you and me >-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 03:32:18 EDT From: VLeComer@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Matrix 6 vs Matrix 1000 I, too, am interested in your info/tips re: Matrix6 M1000 Thanx in Advance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 14:50:13 +0200 From: Ferdinando Villa Subject: Re: Matrix 6 vs Matrix 1000 > > I, too, am interested in your info/tips re: Matrix6 M1000 > > Thanx in Advance > I think we all are. Could you please upload the file somewhere, or (if not too big) post it here or on some newsgroup? Thanks -- Ferdinando Villa, dr. Institute of Ecology Direct phone: +39-521-905615 University of Parma FAX: +39-521-905665 Viale delle Scienze e.mail: villa@eagle.bio.unipr.it 43100 Parma, Italy villa@sparrow.bio.unipr.it ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 15:22:49 MET From: Andrea TONI Subject: Re: Matrix 6 vs Matrix 1000 > > I, too, am interested in your info/tips re: Matrix6 M1000 > > Thanx in Advance > I think we all are. Could you please upload the file somewhere, or (if not > too big) post it here or on some newsgroup? > Thanks > Ferdinando Villa, dr. Hi, If it's ok with Joe, is about 85K ... tell me what I should do .. upload to an ftp node or post it here ?? .. anyway .. don't expect too much , just few interesting infos .. Ciao, ------------------------------------------------ENV---ENV---ENV---------------- Andrea TONI (andrea@sihp03.si.estec.esa.nl) | | | Solar System and Space VCO-->VCF-->VCA--> DUCATI 900SS Science Division (SO) | | | ------------------------------------------------LFO---LFO---LFO---------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 11:10:48 MET From: Andrea TONI Subject: -- M1000 and M6 -- Hi, the file with Obie M1000 and M6 infos is now on stjohn.gsfc.nasa.gov dir /Emusic-L/info-docs-FAQs file obie6_1000 sorry I didn't have time to clean it up .. enjoy it for ehat it is !!! Ciao, ------------------------------------------------ENV---ENV---ENV---------------- Andrea TONI (andrea@sihp03.si.estec.esa.nl) | | | Solar System and Space VCO-->VCF-->VCA--> DUCATI 900SS Science Division (SO) | | | ------------------------------------------------LFO---LFO---LFO---------------- --< mongoloid, he was a mongoloid happier then you and me >-- ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************