EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 68, Issue 08 This issue's topics: csound and sonic morphing Csound Mailing List Morphing... (2 messages) csound (10 messages) Csound for OS/2 native? csound for Mac? (2 messages) CSOUND Instruments csound Csound Mailing List Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:12:22 +662900 From: "Dr. Kirk Corey" Subject: Re: Csound Mailing List On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, Jason Vantomme wrote: > You may join by sending a message to: > > csound-request@maths.ex.ac.uk This appears to have changed. I just did this, and got an automated reply that the mail should go to majordomo@maths.ex.ac.uk with contents subscribe csound I have just tried this method, and it appears to have worked. -- Kirk -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dr. Kirk Corey [insert Electronic Systems Administrator kirk-corey@uiowa.edu disclaimer School of Music here] The University of Iowa "Msdos? MSDOS? I've seen CALCULATORS with a better operating system!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:29:03 -0400 From: James Driggers Subject: Morphing... Hello all, In regards to sound design, does anyone know some algorithms or such for "morphing" one sample to another? More than just a simple crossfade, that is. Do some of the sample editing packages do it and sound convincing? What I've heard on Emu's machine isn't up to snuff, IMHO. (SORRY!) Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Jim "Musician, philosopher, beer drinker." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 14:46:19 -0700 From: Nate Waddoups Subject: Re: Morphing... On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, James Driggers wrote: > In regards to sound design, does anyone know some > algorithms or such for "morphing" one sample to another? > More than just a simple crossfade, that is. Do some of > the sample editing packages do it and sound convincing? > What I've heard on Emu's machine isn't up to snuff, IMHO. If I were to try to build something that did what the morpheus advertises, I'd run fast fourier transforms (FFTs) on the samples, and store the results of several transforms (spectrums of amplitudes at various frequencies at various times during the sample's playback) instead of the samples themselves. Playback would involve inverse FFTs of the stored spectra. Morphing would be done by weighting and averaging the spectra of the instruments before running an IFFT on the results. I don't actually know if it would work, to be honest. I've been trying to get a decent FFT/IFFT working on my PC for a while now, since I think it could be used for a number of interesting musical applications. +-------------------+------------------------------------------------------- | natew@halcyon.com | You write Windows code? Mac code? OS/2 PM code? +-------------------+ Want a great job in the pacific northwest? Send me email, we'll talk... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 15:12:34 -0500 From: Phil Skiba Subject: csound Hey. Can anyone direct me to a copy of csound that will actually run on my system. I was getting all sorts of strangeness last year while trying to work it...like csound telling me that my kr,sr,kamps were off, even though I knew (as did everyone else) that my code was fine. some people thought my memory configuration might be wrong. Is this possible? Has anyone else experienced this? I am running 8 megs onboard (which ought to be plenty, yes?). Could it be that Stacker is screwing things up? Thanks, Phil sps5251@siena.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 19:15:20 -0400 From: John Shaft Subject: Re: csound What OS are you running it on? Linux? If so, we should confer because I'm trying to get mine all settled out as well. =) john ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 19:37:45 -0500 From: Phil Skiba Subject: Re: csound I am running the new Dos (what is it...6.2 already ;) ) and windows. Is therea csound that will run out of windows? That would be interesting. In any case, is there a program out there I can use to test my memory configuration? phil sps5251@siena.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:36:46 -0700 From: "Shawn T. Rutledge" Subject: Re: csound > I am running the new Dos (what is it...6.2 already ;) ) and windows. > Is therea csound that will run out of windows? That would be interesting. > In any case, is there a program out there I can use to test my memory > configuration? There is a shell for windows that makes it easier to run the DOS version. You can tag an sco and orc and tell it to compile, or edit either one. -- _______ KB7PWD - now on packet! shawn.rutledge@asu.edu (_ | |_) html: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~rutledge/home.html __) | | \__________________________________________________________________ * quantize the universe * freedom of information * C++ * Interpedia * *** Happy Birthday to the Internet! May it live long and prosper. *** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:23:57 +0100 From: Klaus Neubauer Subject: Re: csound > I am currently runnning csound in windows from the "msdos prompt", but > I have a feeling it would be faster if I ran it directly in dos. [...] > Can anyone tell me if it will run significantly faster outside of > widows? Phil - I don't know csound but I'm working with MS-Windows -sigh- at the office and I think that every DOS-App. runs faster outside windows (because of more real memory etc). regards Klaus u1amo01@thor.dnet.basf-ag.de ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 12:11:16 EDT From: Paul Schuh Subject: Re: csound > > I am currently runnning csound in windows from the "msdos prompt", but > > I have a feeling it would be faster if I ran it directly in dos. [...] > > Can anyone tell me if it will run significantly faster outside of > > widows? > > Phil - I don't know csound but I'm working with MS-Windows -sigh- at the > office and I think that every DOS-App. runs faster outside windows > (because of more real memory etc). It has been my experience that even MS-Windoze applications run faster under OS/2. . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:11:52 -0500 From: Phil Skiba Subject: csound I am currently runnning csound in windows from the "msdos prompt", but I have a feeling it would be faster if I ran it directly in dos. Many of my output files are about 3 megs, but they take several hours to compile @486-25mhz. Can anyone tell me if it will run significantly faster outside of widows? Its a pain to change my autoexec.bat b/c I run some software that needs crazy extended memory configs, etc, but I woukd do it if it will work bettr thanks phil sps5251@siena.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:34:10 -0500 From: Burton Beerman Subject: csound Where is there an FTP site for Csound for ibm dos? Or is there (excuse me for cussing) a mail site? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:52:45 +1000 From: Damien Miller <943127@EDNA.CC.SWIN.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: csound On Mon, 26 Sep 1994, Phil Skiba wrote: > I am currently runnning csound in windows from the "msdos prompt", but > I have a feeling it would be faster if I ran it directly in dos. Many > of my output files are about 3 megs, but they take several hours to > compile @486-25mhz. Try editing the dos prompt's .pif file and allocating it more memory - Csound is a 32 bit application and can take advantage of XMS (and DPMI I think). Also try giving it a better timeslice/priority/whatever-is-called, this will be at the expense of anything else running. > > Can anyone tell me if it will run significantly faster outside of > widows? Its a pain to change my autoexec.bat b/c I run some > software that needs crazy extended memory configs, etc, but I woukd > do it if it will work bettr I don't know about windows, but I use it under OS/2. Usually I have 2 instances of an editor running (one for .sco, one for .orc), 2 OS/2 command boxes (one to delete/rename/move files, the other to read the menual :), a windows based waveform editor and the soundblaster volume control. All of this going and I can't see any sign of a slowdown. Damien ************************************************************************** | Damien Miller aka toado@edna.cc.swin.edu.au aka Silicon Dreams | |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | what would _you_ do with a pet sloth? | what problem? | ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 15:13:02 +1000 From: Damien Miller <943127@EDNA.CC.SWIN.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: csound On Mon, 26 Sep 1994, Burton Beerman wrote: > Where is there an FTP site for Csound for ibm dos? Or is there (excuse me for > cussing) a mail site? ftp: ftp.bath.ac.uk either: /pub/dream or /pub/jpff Damien ************************************************************************** | Damien Miller aka toado@edna.cc.swin.edu.au aka Silicon Dreams | |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | what would _you_ do with a pet sloth? | what problem? | ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 15:15:35 +1000 From: Damien Miller <943127@EDNA.CC.SWIN.EDU.AU> Subject: Csound for OS/2 native? Hi, Can anyone direct me to a native version of Csound for OS/2? regards, Damien ************************************************************************** | Damien Miller aka toado@edna.cc.swin.edu.au aka Silicon Dreams | |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | what would _you_ do with a pet sloth? | what problem? | ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:17:14 +0000 From: Jim Gardner Subject: csound for Mac? Hi folks Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but after having read all the stuff about csound for MSDross and Fensters, the obvious question is "is there a Mac version, and if so, where can I get it?" In fact what other programs like this are out there for the Mac. Obviously I'd like to know about the ones available via anonymous ftp, but would also be interested in details about commercial stuff. On the other hand, perhaps I've just stumbled into FAQ territory. Anyway - what's the deal, people? Jim Gardner You should never have your best trousers on when you turn out to fight for freedom and truth. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 20:33:07 -0400 From: John Shaft Subject: Re: csound for Mac? Csound for u*x and Macs can be found on cecelia.media.mit.edu in some /pub directory i believe (it's not very deep, dont worry ;). I also seem to remember seeing some Mac sound processing software from the IRCAM web page (I cant recall the address, though i think it's like http://www.ircam.fr/). good luck! john ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 19:57:47 -0500 From: Phil Skiba Subject: CSOUND Instruments Hey guys, is there anyone out there who has put together interesting csound instruments? I have finally got it running, but I am not very experienced at programming. I'd like to see some examples and find out just what is possible. Thanks, Phil SPS5251@SIENA.BITNET p.s. to whomever is asking, I know there is a csound for mac someplace, but I am not certain where. ANyone have an ftp site ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 09:27:33 -0600 From: Jason Vantomme Subject: Re: EMUSIC-L Digest - 27 Sep 1994 to 28 Sep 1994 The following is directly from the MAC-README in: /pub/Csound at: cecelia.media.mit.edu --------------------------------------------------------- CSOUND FOR THE MACINTOSH The following files are relevant to Macintosh users: Csound.hqx Macintosh Csound application Csound-881.hqx Macintosh 020/030 881/882 Csound application Csound.man.hqx Csound manual in Microsoft Word format Csound.sit.hqx Archive containing all source files These four files are all encoded into ASCII using the BinHex format. --------------------------------------------------------- I believe that there is an entire folder of examples sent along in the application bundle as well...examples from Dashow, Chowning, Boulanger, etc. Jason. _________________________________________________________________________ Jason D. Vantomme, Programmer/Analyst Institute for the Learning Sciences, Northwestern University 1890 Maple Avenue, Evanston, IL 60201 Ph. (708) 467-2129 _________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 09:30:41 -0600 From: Jason Vantomme Subject: Csound Mailing List Since there has been a lot of traffic about csound, I thought I'd post a note about the CSOUND mailing list and how to get on it. From the FAQ: ---------------------------------- 3.0 How do I get more info on Csound? Though information about Csound is pretty scarce, you can always find some useful tips from a couple of sources. - First, there is a new mailing-list for Csound created by Martin Dupras (Universite de Montreal, Quebec) and James Andrews (University of Exeter, UK). This mailing-list has been created especially for discussion on the use of Csound, and is open to all Csound whether veterans or beginners. You may join by sending a message to: csound-request@maths.ex.ac.uk the first line of which says 'subscribe name@host' and then post by sending mail to: csound@maths.ex.ac.uk ---------------------------------------- Hope this helps. Jason. _________________________________________________________________________ Jason D. Vantomme, Programmer/Analyst Institute for the Learning Sciences, Northwestern University 1890 Maple Avenue, Evanston, IL 60201 Ph. (708) 467-2129 _________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************