EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 68, Issue 10 This issue's topics: Backup on DAT? Data and Audio DATs (3 messages) data dats and Digidesign Data and Audio DATs data dats and Digidesign file types >DATa Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 13:05:40 --100 From: Jesper Alsed Subject: Hello! Does anybody know if there exist a DAT with which you can record both music and data (as a backup-unit) and, if it exists, how much it costs? Also I've heard of read/writeable CD-ROMs. Is this something worth waiting for? Thanks! Jesper Alsed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 10:27:32 -0500 From: Arne Claassen ISE Subject: Re: Data and Audio DATs > Does anybody know if there exist a DAT with which you can record both music > and data (as a backup-unit) and, if it exists, how much it costs? > Also I've heard of read/writeable CD-ROMs. Is this something worth waiting > for? I have not come across one of these, but if you are a Mac user, there's always Digidesign. Their audio hardware comes with a program that lets you back up data on normal audio DATs. I don't know if this back-up is limited to Soundesigner files or what, tho'. As for read/writeable CD-ROMs (a contradiction in terms?), there are two technologies currently available. WORM (Write Once Read Many, or if you prefer Write Once Read Mostly) and Magneto-optical. While WORM can read CD-ROM it's a limited technology. Magneto-optical cannot (to my knowledge) read normal CD's I guess, there's also the CD-Recorders, which burn regular CD's. It's sort of a WORM technology. It is also cost-prohibitive at this time. About $3000 for the recorder and $30 for a blank CD. -AFC. -- Arne F. Claassen On the Web: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Somebody's got his finger on a DX7!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 13:24:06 EDT From: Scott Lehman Subject: Re: Data and Audio DATs i've heard of recordable CD's as low as $13. I can get a name if someone wants it. scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 21:48:06 EDT From: Keith Bowers Subject: data dats and Digidesign 4mm DAT tape sold as data grade differs from audio DAT tape only in that data grade DAT is pretested for dropouts that could corrupt files during the restore process. While special software is required to backup files to DAT (Retrospect is in wide use, and GMR markets data DAT drives and software for audioworkstation backup) The Digidesign dATA program will backup Sounddesigner II audio files and playlist info for Digidesign harware systems ONLY. The beauty of this program is that is functions with a standard audio DAT (the PAnasonic SV-3700 is the defacto standard) via AES or S/PDIF ports. In my past life as a digital audio studio designer for broadcast facilities off line storage in non DIGIDESIGN systems required a dedicated data DAT (Python, Sony and others make these @$900 street) In my current life in audio production for CDROM projects and CD premastering I have found the Digidesign dATA program to be very reliable even though it is a real time process to backup and restore to/from audio DAT. The addvantage of the dedicated data DAT system is a restore/backup time of @ half the running time of the file. (That is 30 minutes to backup a one hour program) If anyone desires references on backup systems email me at kabowers@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 21:41:59 -0500 From: Arne Claassen ISE Subject: Re: Data and Audio DATs > Prices for recordable CDs have come way down from the $30.00 quote Arne said. > When my office first started using CDR the prices were around $20.00 and that > was about 6 months ago. In the most recent issue of Mix magazine an ad in the > classified section has listed TDK blank CDs for $11.50 for 63 minute blanks > and $12.60 for 74 minute blanks. If this is the case than maybe we will start > seeing the price of consumer CDs start to come down as well Wow. It's almost affordable to dupe CD's now. Well, except for the little problem of paying for the hardware, too. But at that cost it is getting closer to making demos on CDR viable. Ho hum... No way i could afford the recorder tho'. -- Arne F. Claassen On the Web: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Somebody's got his finger on a DX7!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 00:28:40 -0700 From: Carl Stone Subject: Re: data dats and Digidesign Keith Bowers writes: > While special software is required to backup files to DAT (Retrospect is in > wide use, and GMR markets data DAT drives and software for audioworkstation > backup) The Digidesign dATA program will backup Sounddesigner II audio files > and playlist info for Digidesign harware systems ONLY. The beauty of this > program is that is functions with a standard audio DAT (the PAnasonic SV-3700 > is the defacto standard) via AES or S/PDIF ports. This statement could be misunderstood. Digidesign's dATA program can also back up SD I and AIFF files. CS -- C --------------------------------------------------------------------- A INTERNET: cstone@netcom.com WELL: cstone PAN: carlstone R COMPUSERVE: 73260,1147 ARTSWIRE: cstone L --------------------------------------------------------------------- STONE 4104 24th Street #410 San Francisco CA 94114 USA ------------------------------------------------ Paul's Law: In America, it's not how much an item costs, it's how much you save. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 19:12:49 EDT From: Keith Bowers Subject: Re: file types >DATa Thank you Mr Stone for mentioning that Digidesign's DATa program backs up SDI and AIFF files as well as SDII files. It also will back up compressed audio files. DATa will backup playlist, region info and markers from Sound Designer front ended systems (audiomedia and soundtools) It will NOT back up session files from ProTOOLs (audio only for Protools). ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************