EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 68, Issue 18 This issue's topics: Resource searches Quest for literature Looking for MIDI Magazine (3 messages) Quest for literature Digitech address? Wendy Carlos & Old Business FTP sources for SD samples? Berklee bbs (2 messages) THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... Older synthesis recordings THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... (2 messages) Wendy Carlos CD THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... (2 messages) Wendy Carlos CD Digidesign Email? THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... Music Resource Guide... buying instruments Books on songwriting buying instruments Books on songwriting USE OF TECHNOLOGY IN MUSIC EDUCATION Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 10:59:48 +0200 From: Shlomo Dubnov Subject: Quest for literature I have a small budget available for literature on computer music and I'm looking for recent (last year or two) recommended publications. The books are for a computer science library and will be used by students of an introductory course on computer music. The scope of interest is large - from formal processing and AI to perception and signal processing. Thank you in advance, Shlomo Dubnov ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 07:15:00 EDT From: "Cammarota, Joe" Subject: Looking for MIDI Magazine I am having some difficulty in locating a copy of MIDI magazine. I would like to subscribe (is it worth it?) If anyone could send me the publishers address and /or phone number I would be grateful. If anyone would be willing to mail me a subscription card, let me know and I'll send you my land mail address. Joe Cammarota@dfssmtp.nadc.navy.mil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 11:19:13 EDT From: Ray Brunelle Subject: Re: Looking for MIDI Magazine I'm not sure if they are still in business. I subscribed some time ago. Got 4 issues and haven't heard a peep more... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:58:59 -0500 From: "Tim H. Harrison" Subject: Re: Looking for MIDI Magazine On Mon, 12 Sep 1994, Ray Brunelle wrote: > I'm not sure if they are still in business. > > I subscribed some time ago. > Got 4 issues and haven't heard a peep more... > Yeah, I asked them to send me a trial issue a few months ago. They sent me the bill, but no issue. Tim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 14:13:57 -0500 From: wpruett Subject: Re: Quest for literature Here are some good books on computer music, the latest ones I've found-- Title: Computer music : synthesis, composition, and performance / Charles Dodge, Thomas A. Jerse. Publisher: New York : Schirmer Books, c1985. Subjects: Computer music--Instruction and study. Computer composition. Moore, F. Richard. Elements of Computer Music. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, 1990. $38.00 + $4.00 shipping UPS surface ISBN: 0-13252-552-6 Lots of stuff on software synthesis, and more, all centered around cmusic Title: The liberation of sound : an introduction to electronic music / by Herbert Russcol ; new introduction by Otto Luening ; preface by Jacques Barzun. Publisher: New York : Da Capo Press, 1994. Series : Da Capo Press music reprint series Notes: Reprint. Originally published: Englewood Cliffs, N.J. : Subjects: Electronic music--History and criticism. ISBN: 0-306-76263-3 : $35.00 TITLE: Foundations of computer music / ed. by Curtis Roads [and] John Strawn EDITION: 3rd print. IMPRINT: Cambridge, Massachusetts, [etc.] : MIT Press, 1987 * XX, 712 p. ; 23 cm NAMES: Roads, Curtis * Strawn, John ISBN: 0-262-68051-3 m * 0-262-18114-2 v There is also supposed to be a bibliography available from ftp.cs.ruu.nl in MIDI/DOC/bibliography. Please let me know if you find anything more current. Hope this helps. William Pruett WPRUETT.ucs.indiana.edu On Mon, 12 Sep 1994, Shlomo Dubnov wrote: > I have a small budget available for literature on computer music and I'm looking > for recent (last year or two) recommended publications. The books are for a > computer science library and will be used by students of an introductory course > on computer music. The scope of interest is large - from formal processing and AI > to perception and signal processing. > Thank you in advance, > Shlomo Dubnov > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 21:52:24 +1000 From: Merlin Zener Subject: Digitech address? G'day all, Can anyone tell me the email address for Digitech? -- Cheers:) Merlin Zener Ph/fax: +61 75 766 594 Musician, Technician Mobile: +61 18 779 594 Gold Coast, Australia. email: merlin@merlin.edex.edu.au "Research shows that no-one ever went blind from looking on the bright side of life" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 16:13:32 EDT From: "william.b.fox" Subject: Wendy Carlos & Old Business > To: Bill Fox > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 23:46:00 PST > From: att!VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU!AMERICAN.EDU!owner-emusic-l > Subject: Re: Non-Drum Rhythms > > How about a description of the Wendy Carlos CD. I haven't heard of it. > Please provide enough info so that I may order it somewhere. Thanks > Barry Klein "Secrets of Synthesis" by Wendy Carlos on CBS MK42333 CONTENTS: 1. Introduction 2. Examples of Analog Timbres 3. Choral Tone, Vibrato, Articulation 4. Vocal Synthesis 5. Performance Values 6. Simple Orchestration 7. Electronic Pointillism & Hocketing 8. For Spatial Motion 9. Ensemble Performance Via Click-tracks 10. Imitative Synthesis 11. Musique Concrete Plus Synthesizer 12. Orchestra with Synthesizer 13. Digital Synthesis 14. Digital vs. Analog 15. Hybrid Timbres 16. Alternative Tunings - The Future Notes by the composer: For the past seven or eight years I've given occaisional talks and demonstrations of "Electronic Orchestration" on both coasts and in Europe. These have been mostly unscripted and informal affairs, combining many brief musical examples with the spoken word in a quickly paced presentation. Each time the question has come up: "Why don't we make this sort of thing available on a commercial recording?" Associates and friends in the business have been patiently trying to convince me that I really ought to do just that. It would also satisfy the thousands of similar requests that we've received ever since "S-OB" seemingly erupted onto the music scene back in 1968. For all of you who cared enough to ask for explanations of "how it all was done," or "inside tips" and the like, this record is my attempt to answer your requests. I hope you enjoy it! -Wendy Carlos I hope this is what you wanted to know. I quite enjoy listening to it periodically. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 09:35:44 -0400 From: Jon Crystal Subject: FTP sources for SD samples? I recently acquired an old FZ-1 and Sound Designer II software, and am curious about recommendations on FTP sources for interesting (i.e. weird, not acoustic emulations) samples in Sound Designer or SND format to download. Thanks for any suggestions Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 11:16:37 -0400 From: Thom Subject: Berklee bbs Hi all, I have misplaced the dial-up number for the Berklee School of Music bbs server. Does anyone know it off-hand many thanks, Thom nec_twc@flo.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 13:12:41 -0400 From: Bob Ceely Subject: Re: Berklee bbs Hi there THOM; the number is 424-8318 Don't forget to advertise the ELECTRIC WEDNESDAY CONCERT on NOVEMBER 2. cheers RPC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 17:10:07 EDT From: "Mark D. Hanson" Subject: THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... THERE'S JUST GOTTA BE!! - Yes, I'm from AOL, please be forgiving... - Am tired of "new" music that is simply a few hours of flowing parallel 5th's with Star Wars "blaster" shots thrown in... - There are some wonderful samples of "real" instruments and even "nature's" instruments with some very creative uses thereof...that's great...but there's more - Serialism and musical algorithms are fascinating but from the human soul what is next? But WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP!!! From whence cometh the next wave??? Has anyone heard it? Are there definitions? Are there feelings or thoughts... There are more musical doors out there yet to be penetrated...what lies through them??? YOU are those that can speak of innovation...what is it?? WHAT IS IT??? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 16:26:22 -0500 From: Joe McMahon Subject: Older synthesis recordings >You might want to find that old CRI record (not >CD) called "Columbia/Princeton Electronic Music Center, 10th Anniversary" >(Maybe >try the Berkshire Record Outlet?) Yep. I think there's been a reissue of some of the other stuff out of the C/PEMC, but as I remember, it didn't include Arel's "Stereo Electronic Music #1" which is a big favorite of mine - mine sounds like it was recorded in a bacon cook-oof right now - nor did it have Babbitt's "Composition for Synthesizer" (the only Babbitt I've ever heard, but really like and can even remember sections of). I did, however, see a CD with Subotnick's "The Wild Bull" and "Silver Apples of the Moon" just last week. When, oh, when will they re-release "Sidewinder"?! --- Joe M. -- "This trumpet is flatlining!" (MST3K, "Mr. B. Natural") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 10:28:10 -0400 From: Bill Matthews Subject: Re: THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... > > WHAT IS IT??? > ah... last days of the 20th c. zeitgeist: the completely self-referential post. Bill M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 08:35:51 -0700 From: atomic city Subject: Re: THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... Mark D. Hanson jotteth.... > >- Yes, I'm from AOL, please be forgiving... No comment. >- Serialism and musical algorithms are fascinating but from > the human soul what is next? > >But WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP!!! From whence cometh the next wave??? > >Has anyone heard it? Are there definitions? Are there feelings or >thoughts... > >There are more musical doors out there yet to be penetrated...what lies >through them??? > >YOU are those that can speak of innovation...what is it?? > >WHAT IS IT??? Semiserious answer: Everyone has a particular direction in which they like to explore; mine is in timbral evolution and work with aural space within the context of (admittedly) fairly conventional and simple western-European compositional forms. Others here explore sound construction from the bits up, or atonality, or Markov Chains, or the physical modeling of the oboe. Getting advice is nice, but you don't NEED a guide to lead someplace interesting in the Undiscovered Country. As you walk, the scenery suggests new and exciting places to go, and as you follow it, you learn more and can travel farther, faster, and better. There is no particular 'next step' for our future, unless one considers the will of the masses (i.e. MTV's flava of the week) to carry the most weight. Some of the composers we admire today were the pop stars of their eras; others were despised iconoclasts. When they were alive, no one could pick which of them would be remembered years hence or why, and I doubt many of them cared; they explored because they had to, and posterity would remember them or not. We all know who Bach was, and this gang probably all knows who Harry Partch was, but who's to say what of the things we do now is 'the next wave'? It's not for us to decide. Our job is to do what we think and feel we must. Flip answer: "Whaling songs. Whaling songs. I went on vacation to Maine, I heard these four young guys singing...like BIRDS. I went off my nut. I fell on my bum. I couldn't believe it. It's all A capella, a capella, acapella. No drums. No guitars. No moo-g. Nothing. The rest of this stuff? Rock and roll? In the dumper. In the dumper. Down the Toidy. Jazz? Down the toidy. Flush it. FWSSSH. This is it, Mel. Whaling songs, Trust me. Whaling songs. Oh, and I'm leaving ya a little present, a little snowstorm in July if ya know what I mean...." --Paul Shaffer, from years before Late Night, when he was with the National Lampoon -- mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * atomic@netcom.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Oh drat, these computers are so naughty and so complex, I could just PINCH them." (m. t. martian) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 17:29:04 GT+3 From: Hermann Henning Rauth Subject: Wendy Carlos CD Does anyone know a e-mail address anywhere in the world that I could get this Wendy Carlos CD "Secrets of Synthesis", via credit card ??? A mail address or even a phone number would be ok, too... Hermann Henning Rauth rlat1@rla01.pucpr.br ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:17:33 EDT From: "BARNES,LARRY J." Subject: Re: THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... Dear searcher, try Steve Reich and Joseph Schwantner before 1983. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 10:49:18 +0100 From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... >Getting advice is nice, but you don't >NEED a guide to lead someplace interesting in the Undiscovered >Country. I keep getting mugged. (One for allegory fans.) Nick Rothwell CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance nick@cassiel.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 18:19:43 -0500 From: David Sowder Subject: Re: Wendy Carlos CD >Does anyone know a e-mail address anywhere in the world that I could >get this Wendy Carlos CD "Secrets of Synthesis", via credit card ??? >A mail address or even a phone number would be ok, too... > >Hermann Henning Rauth >rlat1@rla01.pucpr.br You might try telnetting to cdconnection.com. It is an on-line CD "store". I don't know for sure if what you're looking for is there, but it's very likely. Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with cdconnection.com. I was just impressed with what they have to offer when I discovered it a few days ago. David Sowder Assistant Director of Information Services Southwestern Adventist College Keene, TX sowderd@vaxine.swac.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:14:02 -0400 From: Jon Crystal Subject: Digidesign Email? Anyone know an email address for Digidesign? Thanks, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 17:06:14 -0700 From: "Shawn T. Rutledge" Subject: Re: THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... > "Whaling songs. Whaling songs. I went on vacation to Maine, I heard > these four young guys singing...like BIRDS. I went off my nut. I fell > on my bum. I couldn't believe it. It's all A capella, a capella, > acapella. No drums. No guitars. No moo-g. Nothing. The rest of this > stuff? Rock and roll? In the dumper. In the dumper. Down the > Toidy. Jazz? Down the toidy. Flush it. FWSSSH. This is it, Mel. Whaling > songs, Trust me. Whaling songs. Oh, and I'm leaving ya a little > present, a little snowstorm in July if ya know what I mean...." :-) Reminds me of a similar lament from a guy who appeared on The Prairie Home Companion and claimed he had invented whaling songs, and got cheated out of the proper credit and respect. He said many of those things, as well as some puns about Whalin' Jennings and The Whalers etc. Obvious he wasn't being original at all - or else Shafer wasn't - or else it is an ironic coincidence. -- _______ KB7PWD - now on packet! shawn.rutledge@asu.edu (_ | |_) html: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~rutledge/home.html __) | | \__________________________________________________________________ * quantize the universe * freedom of information * C++ * Interpedia * *** Happy Birthday to the Internet! May it live long and prosper. *** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 12:42:23 PST From: "Roger I. Ramnath" Subject: Re[2]: Music Resource Guide... >Where does one check out EM? EM, or Electronic Musician is a magazine. I think subscriptions are $29/year. You should be able to find a copy at a large book store, music store or magazine stand... Roger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:41:00 +0200 From: Jose Manuel Adan Subject: buying instruments hello My name is Jose Adan and i live in Spain(Europe). I am looking for a shop in U.S where I can buy some instruments like a electric guitar and a effects process unit by mail. Can anyone help me? Thank you! my email is lgzadgaj@lg.ehu.es yours Jose ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 09:39:34 GMT+1200 From: Craig Jewiss Subject: Books on songwriting Hi. As my email address shows, I'm from New Zealand. I'm interested in finding books on practical songwriting (in particular, in the areas of rock and film scores). Book resources in NZ range from vague to non-existent. A local music store told me about a series of books published by Mix Bookshelf. The salesman from this store had bought a couple while he was in New Orleans, but he hasn't been able to track down an agent for NZ. So my two questions are: 1. Has anyone heard of Mix Bookshelf, and how can I contact them. 2. Can anyone recommend other publications that handle songwriting techniques, in a practical fashion. Thanks for any help. ================================================ Craig Jewiss, CNE Systems Engineer National Library of New Zealand ph: 64 4 4743072 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 20:34:50 EDT From: Phil Bednarski Subject: Re: buying instruments Dear Jose, Try Musician's Friend at 1-503-772-5173. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 08:36:31 LCL From: "Colin T. Smith" Subject: Re: Books on songwriting Craig, you can get in touch with the people at Mix Bookshelf at: 6400 Hollis St. #12 Emeryville, Ca. 94068 USA (800) 233-9604 This will get you their catalog. Colin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:07:05 -0400 From: Jennifer Hurley-Wales Subject: USE OF TECHNOLOGY IN MUSIC EDUCATION I am looking for information on the use of technology (cd-roms, long- distance learning) in music education. Any suggestion of other bulletin boards, or sources of information? Thank you! jennifer Hurley-Wales New England Conservatory NEC_HURLEY@FLO.ORG ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************