EMUSIC-L Digest Volume 70, Issue 10 This issue's topics: Vision problems Vision is clouding my vision (3 messages) Another Vision question (5 messages) Your EMUSIC-L Digest moderator is Joe McMahon . Please send articles to emusic-l@american.edu. Administrative mail should be directed to the editor at the address above. You may subscribe to EMUSIC-L by sending mail to listserv@american.edu with the line "SUB EMUSIC-L your name" as the text. The EMUSIC-L archive is a service of SunSite (sunsite.unc.edu) at the University of North Carolina. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 23:46:00 PST From: Craig Marks Subject: Vision is clouding my vision Subject: Vision is clouding my vision To all users of Vision, or anyone else who might be able to help me.- When I'm "recording" sequences into Vision, the patch that sounds is not the patch that I'm recording -- it is either one of the patches in the Combi or a combination of all of the patches. After I record the section, I then have to go and adjust the MIDI channel assignment for that track so that it will sound with the correct voice. This is particularly disconcerting when I'm recording a drum track and instead of hearing the drums, I hear piano, brass, whatever!!! I'm using a Korg M1 which is hooked into my mac where I'm running Vision 1.4. Help! What do I do? I need to be able to hear the patch I'm recording. Is this a softwear flaw, or, more likely, a user flaw? Please respond by the list or by private e-mail. Thanks in advance. -Craig IZZY2VG@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 08:14:23 +0100 From: Peter Van Rees Subject: Re: Vision is clouding my vision > > To all users of Vision, or anyone else who might be able to help me.- > > When I'm "recording" sequences into Vision, the patch that sounds is not > the patch that I'm recording -- it is either one of the patches in the Combi > or a combination of all of the patches. After I record the section, I then > have to go and adjust the MIDI channel assignment for that track so that it > will sound with the correct voice. This is particularly disconcerting when > I'm recording a drum track and instead of hearing the drums, I hear piano, > brass, whatever!!! I'm using a Korg M1 which is hooked into my mac where I'm > running Vision 1.4. Help! What do I do? I need to be able to hear the > patch I'm recording. Is this a softwear flaw, or, more likely, a user flaw? > Please respond by the list or by private e-mail. Thanks in advance. > -Craig > IZZY2VG@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU As far as i can see, this is a problem of the M1. Check if your midi local function is set to 'off'. It's probably set to 'on'. When you turn 'midi local off' (or 'local off' as it is sometimes called), you can only hear the midi channel you are currently working on in your sequencer, and the keyboard set-up is ignored. bye, Peter van rees ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 09:50:11 -0500 From: Thom Subject: Vision >Subject: Vision is clouding my vision >I record the section, I then >have to go and adjust the MIDI channel assignment for that track so that it >will sound with the correct voice. This is particularly disconcerting when >I'm recording a drum track and instead of hearing the drums, I hear piano, >brass, whatever!!! I'm using a Korg M1 which is hooked into my mac where I'm >running Vision 1.4. Help! What do I do? I need to be able to hear the >patch I'm recording. Is this a softwear flaw, or, more likely, a user flaw? >Please respond by the list or by private e-mail. Thanks in advance. -Craig IZZY2VG@MVS.OAC.UCLA.ED Make sure that channel assignment is saved as part of each Combination in your M1. What I do is program a Combi patch as a blank template to work with in Vision: 4 instruments each on a different channel. I do program changes from the Vision window not the front panel of the M1 hope this is helpful, Thom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 05:06:00 PST From: Craig Marks Subject: Another Vision question Whenever I use Vision 1.4, the internal "memory" as displayed on the screen gets used up very quickly. The program then quits and closes - sequences disappear, etc. What can I do to keep more memory free? Is it a matter of expanding my RAM? Will turning on "virtual memory" help? What's going on? Thanks again? -Craig ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 09:51:45 -0500 From: Thom Subject: vision > >Whenever I use Vision 1.4, the internal "memory" as displayed on the screen > gets used up very quickly. The program then quits and closes - sequences >disappear, etc. What can I do to keep more memory free? Is it a matter of >expanding my RAM? Will turning on "virtual memory" help? What's going on? >Thanks again? -Craig You need more RAM. Six megs works great. Thom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 11:26:30 -0500 From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: Another Vision question >Whenever I use Vision 1.4, the internal "memory" as displayed on the screen > gets used up very quickly. The program then quits and closes - sequences >disappear, etc. What can I do to keep more memory free? Is it a matter of >expanding my RAM? Will turning on "virtual memory" help? What's going on? >Thanks again? -Craig It does indeed sound as if you need more memory. Virtual memory is an option, but requires double the amount of RAM you have installed to be free on your hard disk. It will also slow things down, because it is simulating more RAM by swapping things in and out of memory to disk. This may not be acceptable for Vision, which needs to run in as close to real-time as it can. If you already have a fair amount of memory installed (say 6-8 megs or more), you may want to check to see what Vision is being assigned as a maximum amount by checking the "Get Info" box for the application. (Anything more on tha Mac front, send me direct email). --- Joe M. -- csound - anything you can imagine... in about an hour. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 15:15:04 -0500 From: Ted Johnson Subject: Re: vision I don't know how much memory you have, but you can allocate however much you want of it to Vision by single-clicking the application icon and choosing "Get Info" from the file menu. You'll see a box at the bottom that lets you choose how much memory you want to allocate to Vision... you can do this with any program. To see how much you have free, select "About this Macintosh" from the apple menu. You just might not have enough memory in general, but sequencers usually don't take up toooo much memory... if you have 2 or 3 free megs (total of 5 or so) that should be fine I'd think. --MacBruin@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 19:17:31 +0000 From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Another Vision question >It will also slow things down, because it is simulating >more RAM by swapping things in and out of memory to disk. This may not be >acceptable for Vision, which needs to run in as close to real-time as it >can. I hope that Vision is VM-safe (with drivers locked down and so on); certainly, from what I remember of the developer docs, OMS is already. How the swapping of the non-critical parts of the application affect timing, I don't know. MAX isn't VM-safe, alas, and I'm finding it a squeeze. >csound - anything you can imagine... in about an hour. As we say over here: chortle. Nick Rothwell CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance nick@cassiel.com ------------------------------ End of the EMUSIC-L Digest ******************************