========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 15:20:11 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Job in the UK Comments: To: emusic-l@american.edu Hi emusicers, some of you might already have seen this. I got it on the list Regards, David musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au ======================================================================= From: Alistair Riddell Subject: Job in the UK To: oz-computer-music@latrobe.edu.au JOB POSTING: University of Sheffield, UK. Lectureship/Senior Lectureship in Composition (Lectureship is the UK equivalent of Assistant Professor) Applications are invited for the position of Lecturer or Senior Lecturer in Composition (depending on experience) at the University of Sheffield. The successful applicant will join a permanent staff of eight with diverse research interests. The Department, has made three permanent appointments in the last two years, and this further post is intended to continue to strengthen the research standing of the Department. Applicants, who will contribute primarily to the composition teaching in the Department at undergraduate and postgraduate levels, will therefore be expected to demonstrate a strong research record. Some experience of working with digital music technology would be an advantage, though not essential. The post is tenable from September 1995. Closing date for applications: 1st June Please send for further information: Personnel Department University of Sheffield Western Bank Sheffield S10 2TN UK Informal enquiries: K.A.Norman@Sheffield.ac.uk (Katharine Norman, Lecturer in Composition) E.F.Clarke@Sheffield.ac.uk (Eric Clarke,Head of Department) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 22:35:47 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: isor Subject: Re: ObEmCon/Jerzy/Odds (was SPK) In-Reply-To: <199505010216.TAA10357@netcom17.netcom.com> SPK was a "movement" started by German Physicians and Nurses. Their 'main point' was to convince the general public that psychological developmental "problems" were the result of societies retchedness. Since Grahm Revel (sp?) first took the name he has since used many acronymns. Eric Allen Seale of ISOR magazine \ Br. Box 1566 \ Edwardsville, IL ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 17:24:03 +0900 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Kirk Gale Subject: Dance and Music In-Reply-To: <199505010501.BAA78314@atlanta.american.edu> On Mon, 1 May 1995, Nick Rothwell wrote: > > >For better or > >worse I improve lyrically which better suited those needing the music to > >support the creative effort > > Perhaps I don't understand what you mean by "lyrically." It's a term used > in dance but not one I've ever really understood (much like "abstract"). > Certainly the improvisational element is key here. Not for a semantic discussion, but by "lyrical" I meant improve with an emphasis on melodic content or, where not, then harmonic shifting/building w/ dramatic purposes. This type of playing for university dance classes seemed to very much motivate the students to reach into the farther extremes of the position or pulse, as you mentioned it (as opposed to Nikolai type abstractions (again, no semantic discussions invited). > > >(its funny how the assumption is these people > >are ultimately less creative). > > Really? Snobbishness perhaps. I hadn't really thought about the distinction > between choreographing-to-music versus choreographing-in-isolation. I know > dancers in both camps, and consider them to be of equal merit, if done well > (although my suspicion is that working *well* with music is actually > harder); I must ask them about the qualitative differences in process. > well I was working mostly w/ university students and I'm sorry to say that the choreograph-in-isolation group clearly had the leading IQ's. but as a 'lyrical guy' I still can't figure out where they draw their inspiration from. > Twyla Tharp's autobiography describes all the pieces she choreographed and > performed in total silence in the 1960's. I must dig out some quotes about > why; the basic motivation was that audiences can empathise too easily with > the structure and emotion of music, and she wanted to emphasise the > qualities of the movement instead. > I almost risked saying "jealous grapes shuts out the music" in yesterday's post but didn't want to risk the flames (as if there are dancers on this list!). > > One of the things I'm really interested in is the issue of pulse and > timing. The whole point of using MAX-based compositions controlled by a > fader box is that I can freely follow the energy of the dance (except on > those occasions where the stage is too dark for me to see which fader is > which; sounds great! real live-to-live interaction (which I suppose turns on some choreogrphaers and makes others nervous). Again, in the days when mini MOOG was just out, all accompaniment was live/recorded acoustic stuff. emusic has really stretched the boundaries and I hope the dancers are taking advantage (all those eerie moods emusic can create). > > Oh, I disagree. Emusic is rarely used in any kind of creative way in British dance, and (in my experience) not a great deal in European dance. > So far I've had little interest in the kind of thing I'm doing from the > rank and file (I choose the term deliberately) of the dance scene. too bad...I have to assume, it may be a funding problem on the dancers' part(s). Hope this changes, though I don't see how. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:24:15 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "william.b.fox" Subject: FX Comments: To: emusic-l@american.edu Art Joyce Jr. said: > But for the most part, I like very natural & transparent effects > (when used on instruments/vocals). I tend to mix together two > different sounding reverbs (Ensoniq DP-4 and Lexicon PCM-60-great > & CHEAP box) along w/ a little 100ms slap and maybe a 400ms or so > delay, for one big,but transparent reverb..... I know it sounds > weird, but when you put all of that together, It becomes much more > transparent and natural sounding...(used in MODERATION). Art, when you say that you, "mix together two different sounding reverbs along w/ a little 100ms slap and maybe a 400ms or so delay, for one big but transparent reverb," how do you mean this? Are you using multiple effect sends and returns in parallel? Or are any of your effects in series? When I first brought home three Microverbs, I connected them in series and played a DAT of a concert band through them. The recording was bone dry due to the dead school auditorium. (The acoustics of the auditorium were dead, not the school!) I selected a small room setting on the first reverb, a mid-sized room on the second, and a very large room on the third. By carefully setting the in, out, and mix knobs, I was able to sweeten up the recording very nicely without adding in too much noise. (The Microverbs can get out of hand if you're not careful.) Personnally, I believe that one cannot have too many reverb and delay boxes in the studio. I like dedicated boxes, by the way. They're easy to use and generally better at what they do compared to multi-effects boxes in the same price range. Having many boxes also gives you the flexibility to route the audio any which way you like. I'm always checking out the used bins for reverbs and delays. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 19:50:34 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: h a u s Subject: Binary to Hex conversion Can anyone direct me to a chart that I can download that has a binary to hex conversion. Or does anyone now what "1111 1010" is in Hex. Thanks. Christos. --- h a u s Electro-Body Experience ---- Representing and developing Ambient, Experimental and Industrial artists. Email - haus@io.org | URL - http://www.io.org/~haus | Finger - haus@io.org ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 21:40:14 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Jacki W. Barineau" Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: <199505012350.TAA01700@io.org> On Mon, 1 May 1995, h a u s wrote: > Can anyone direct me to a chart that I can download that has a binary to hex > conversion. Or does anyone now what "1111 1010" is in Hex. > I just plugged in those numbers in my Programmer's calculator and it says the hex is: R98R62 Hope this helps! ************************************************************* Jacki Barineau - (Music Composition/Production via MIDI, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Type II Diabetes ************************************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 21:45:18 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Wayne Hatwich Subject: Ever blow a MIDI Interface??? Has anyone ever "blown" a MIDI interface? Do these things wear out or are they indestructable? I have ordered a new one since I have been having trouble with Finale reading data from my keyboard. Second question - does anyone know if it is possible for MIDI to be transfered successfully INTO a keyboard (Ensoniq VFX-SD) but not OUT of it? All comments and help appreciated. Wayne Hatwich bwv545@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 22:00:28 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Pete Schoenhoff Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: <199505012350.TAA01700@io.org>; from "h a u s" at May 1, 95 7:50 pm These are the graceful words of h a u s: ->Can anyone direct me to a chart that I can download that has a binary to hex ->conversion. Or does anyone now what "1111 1010" is in Hex. ->Christos. Binary "1111 1010" = Hex "FA" Every FOUR digits in binary is a single Hex digit. Speaking digit-by-digit, you can use the following system to convert: Binary number (1st digit x8)+(2nd digit x4)+(3rd digit x2)+(4th digit) thus, the binary 1111 equals: (1 x 8)+ (1 x 4) + (1 x 2) + (1) or 8+4+2+1 or 15 A single HEX digit corresponds to each number between 0 and 15. Conversion for BINARY, DECIMAL, and HEX BINARY: 0000 0001 0010 0011 0100 0101 0110 0111 1000 1001 1010 1011 1100 1101 1110 1111 HEX : 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F DECIML: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Pete Schoenhoff -pschoenh@pen.k12.va.us ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:40:08 +0200 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Hans Timmermans Subject: Re: Ever blow a MIDI Interface??? Wayne Hatwich wrote: >Has anyone ever "blown" a MIDI interface? Yes we deed years ago. >Do these things wear out or are they indestructable? They don't wear out but they are definitly not indestructable. > >Second question - does anyone know if it is possible for MIDI to be >transfered successfully INTO a keyboard (Ensoniq VFX-SD) but not OUT of it? > I don't understand your question, so please give some more details. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Timmermans email: hanst@artmediatech.nl Senior Lecturer in Computermusic Utrecht School of the Arts phone: +31 35836464 Faculty of Art, Media & Technology fax: +31 35836480 Department Musictechnology PO-Box 2471 1200 CL Hilversum THE NETHERLANDS ------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 12:22:17 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Zimbak Camire Subject: Thanks everybody! I recieved your messages saying that I DID get through.Thank y'all!! And again sorry for being pushy. "...they say you'll never know if you never ask,but that's not always the case..." - Who ? Zimbak Camire AMIRTAAS@Math.Sharif.ac.IR ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 18:02:51 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Ears on? >Thanks for the reply about Moby! >I can't believe the long list of equipment he uses. How can >anyone afford that much equipment? I think "why" is a much more interesting question than "how." The reason I have a fair amount of gear, for what it's worth, is that a lot of the stuff is practically worthless these days and not worth selling. Nick Rothwell CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance nick@cassiel.com "Success can be measured by only one thing: the hairs on the back of your neck." -- Twyla Tharp ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 18:02:32 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: New thread from Dance&msc/LXP-5? >Possibly starting a new subject(on effect processors?), I used to have an >LXP-5, and I bet Nick's effect is pretty nifty. A purely accidental discovery, I have to admit. I love the LXP-1 and LXP-5. I'd buy another of each, were it not for the fact that (i) they're very expensive in the UK and (ii) I don't have room in the road cases for the power warts. (My mixer/effects rack has three or four warts already. This stuff *is* important.) Nick Rothwell CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance nick@cassiel.com "Success can be measured by only one thing: the hairs on the back of your neck." -- Twyla Tharp ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 06:37:59 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: William Albert Davis Subject: Sound or tone that causes defecation? Comments: To: allmusic@american.edu Comments: cc: emusic-l@american.edu I am trying to followup on something Dick Cavett said on his old PBS show a long time ago. I believe he was talking to John Cage or to someone who worked with John Cage, and he mentioned that there was a note or a tone that would cause the listener to defecate. I mentioned this to a music minister friend of mine and he gave me a dirty look, so I need to find out what he was talking about, and I couldn't think an appropriate list to post this to. Please e-mail back a reply, since I don't subscribe to the list. Thanks, Bill Davis ****************************************************************************** William A. Davis * wmadavis@iglou.com * P.O.Box 337 * Ghent * KY * 41045 ****************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 06:56:47 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Steve M Laws Subject: Re: u-110 To use all six outputs you first must make sure all the instruments are mapped to six different midi channels. EDIT-ENTER-PATCH-ENTER-BAS-ENTER-USE ARROW KEYS TO GET TO MIDIRCV. Use DEC and INC to change channels. In the same menu press the left arrow one time to get to the output assign.Set each channel to a different output keeping in mind the different output modes.EDIT-ENTER-PATCH-ENTER-COMMON-ENTER-OUT-ENTER. Each patch has adifferent way the voices are assigned. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 07:14:43 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Pete Schoenhoff Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: ; from "Jacki W. Barineau" at May 1, 95 9:40 pm These are the graceful words of Jacki W. Barineau: ->On Mon, 1 May 1995, h a u s wrote: ->> Can anyone direct me to a chart that I can download that has a binary to hex ->> conversion. Or does anyone now what "1111 1010" is in Hex. -> ->I just plugged in those numbers in my Programmer's calculator and it says ->the hex is: R98R62 No... you've made two mistakes: First, you misread the calculator: it actually says "A98A62" Second, you did a hex conversion from the DECIMAL value of 11111010 The hex equivalent of BINARY "1111 1010" is "FA" Pete Schoenhoff pschoenh@pen.k12.va.us ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 08:23:26 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: SHILLS@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU Subject: Re: New thread from Dance&msc/LXP-5? In-Reply-To: I'm the original owner of an LXP-1 (Lexicon). I'm willing to sell it (with all documentation) to you for $225.00 plus COD shipping. SHills@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:15:30 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Allan Harris Organization: University of Connecticut Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 1 May 1995 19:50:34 -0400 from Christos wrote: >Can anyone direct me to a chart that I can download that has a binary to hex >conversion. Or does anyone now what "1111 1010" is in Hex. Using a calculator, the above number equals '250' in decimal and 'FA' in Hexadecimal. There's an easy, handwritten conversion process, although I can't remember it this minute. E-mail me directly if you want me to dig it up out of my old class notes. Hope that helps out. Most scientific calculators (starting at about $20) should do this calculation for you. ************************************************************************ Allan Harris University of Connecticut Office of Advancement Systems 2131 Hillside Road U-190A Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: dev51@uconnvm.uconn.edu ************************************************************************ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 10:13:17 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Edward Plant Subject: Re: Ever blow a MIDI Interface??? from Wayne Hatwich: >Has anyone ever "blown" a MIDI interface? Do these things wear out or are >they indestructable? I have ordered a new one since I have been having >trouble with Finale reading data from my keyboard. are you talking about the MIDI interface board in your computer, or the MIDI circuit in your keyboard? The circuit in your keyboard is so simple and robust it's hard to believe it could fail unless someone plugged a non-MIDI signal into it. The interface board in your computer is another story. There are many ways for it to fail, and most involve the board-to-computer interface instead of the MIDI input/output circuits. > >Second question - does anyone know if it is possible for MIDI to be >transfered successfully INTO a keyboard (Ensoniq VFX-SD) but not OUT of it? > sure, I've done that many times when I was setting something up and didn't have everything configured right. I'm going to take a wild guess on this one, and describe a problem I've experienced to see how similar it is to yours. I have a Korg M1 connected to a 386 PC that I have never been able to receive MIDI from reliably when I run Finale. Based on many tests I've run with other software and MIDI interface boards, I've come to the conclusion that the problem lies in my computer's configuration, and not in Finale, the M1, or the MIDI interface. Since I've never had much reason to use the M1 in that way, I haven't had the energy to roll up my sleeves and solve the problem. (I do 99% of my work by entering music into Finale from the computer keyboard, and using the M1 only for playback, which has always worked fine). Instead I've just been saving my money for a new, bigger, faster computer that will handle interrupts and Windows better. The moral of the story is, Finale taxes your computer's resources more than most software, so if you are having mysterious problems with MIDI I would look hard at your computer configuration and resource management long before I would suspect any problems with the synth or the MIDI interface board. I hope this helps in some way. Edward ============================================================================= Edward Plant, Senior Engineer, Signal Processing Dept Manager egp@ideas.com SAIC/IDEAS Group voice (410)312-2094 7120 Columbia Gateway Drive FAX (410)312-2250 Columbia, MD 21046 ============================================================================= electric bassist - recording engineer - eternal student of composition and emusic The opinions expressed above are my own, and not my employer's... which is a damn shame sometimes.... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 12:56:04 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Angie Revis Subject: Re: Ever blow a MIDI Interface??? In-Reply-To: <950501214329_103337192@aol.com> On Mon, 1 May 1995, Wayne Hatwich wrote: > Has anyone ever "blown" a MIDI interface? Do these things wear out or are > they indestructable? I have ordered a new one since I have been having > trouble with Finale reading data from my keyboard. I've had the "socket" come unsoldered before. > > Second question - does anyone know if it is possible for MIDI to be > transfered successfully INTO a keyboard (Ensoniq VFX-SD) but not OUT of it? If using Speedy entry tool, do you have "Use MIDI keyboard " checked under the Speedy column? Also, I use Patch Bay to connect Apple Midi Manager to Finale's Midi Manager. > > All comments and help appreciated. > > Wayne Hatwich > bwv545@aol.com > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 18:03:55 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: free tapes for the curious >THE APOLOGIZERS : Fruits of Isolation Volume I (electronic stupidity) >DAMN THAT'S A BIG BEETLE, I WONDER IF IT'S POISONOUS? (power groove) I don't know what the music's like, but I think the titles are wonderful. Nick Rothwell CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance nick@cassiel.com "Success can be measured by only one thing: the hairs on the back of your neck." -- Twyla Tharp ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 18:04:09 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: dance and music >This is the music that the Art of Noise will be >forced to listen to when they die and go to Hell. Find it, treasure it. Useful for repelling sensitive environmentally-aware new-age types. "Ooh, you have some lloovvely music here. Ah, Le Mystere des Voix Bulgares! Isn't that so *beautiful*?" "Have you heard volume four?" "Oooh, NOOOO, I haven't. Is it a new one?" "Yes. Here..." [Flip. Click. *CRANK*...] Nick Rothwell CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance nick@cassiel.com "Success can be measured by only one thing: the hairs on the back of your neck." -- Twyla Tharp ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 22:39:52 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: john rossi Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: On Mon, 1 May 1995, Jacki W. Barineau wrote: > On Mon, 1 May 1995, h a u s wrote: > > > Can anyone direct me to a chart that I can download that has a binary to hex > > conversion. Or does anyone now what "1111 1010" is in Hex. > > > > I just plugged in those numbers in my Programmer's calculator and it says > the hex is: R98R62 > I hope you don't operate complicated equipment for a living.... 1111 = "F" in Hex 1010 = "A" in Hex Therefore 11111010 = FAh There is a simple way to remember this. Every digit in the 4-bit 'nibble' is coded as a direct power of 2. The furthest right digit is 2(0) or '1' [any number to the 0 power is 1], the next leftmost digit is 2(1) or '2' [any number to the 1st power is the number itself], then next leftmost is 2(2) or '4' and furthest left digit of the nibble is 2(3) or '8'. If all the digits are 1 as in '1111' you simply sum the powers of 2 (8+4+2+1 = 15). Since Hex counts from 0 to F (15 decimal = 'F' in hex), 1111 is the highest single Hex digit or 'F'. When there is a 0 in any binary digit, you simply substitute 0 for that power of 2. In the case of 1010 you would have (8+0+2+0 = 10), In decimal 10 equals 'A' in hex. This will work for any number of digits in binary sequence. It is not coincidental that a 4-bit nibble can be represented by the 16 hex digits (0-F). Hex replaced octal when it became apparent that computer acrhitectures were going to be byte based and word-based in multiples of bytes. Therefore, 2 hex digits (or a hex pair) can represent all 256 possible independent values of a byte. As to that goofy R98R62 answer provided above, one can only guess what number system is being referenced. I guess it's true that they don't teach this stuff in school any longer. It always amazes me that it takes me almost two complete class lectures in CS-100 to get college freshemen and sophmores to comprehend this simple arithmetic. It really is time to take back the school system. John 3 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 01:09:28 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Jacki W. Barineau" Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: On Tue, 2 May 1995, john rossi wrote: > > I hope you don't operate complicated equipment for a living.... > (and later): > As to that goofy R98R62 answer provided above, one can only guess what > number system is being referenced. > > I guess it's true that they don't teach this stuff in school any longer. > It always amazes me that it takes me almost two complete class lectures > in CS-100 to get college freshemen and sophmores to comprehend this > simple arithmetic. It really is time to take back the school system. > Hey, I'm really sorry for sticking my neck out and trying to "help" here. I just noticed no one else had answered, and I knew there was a "hex" feature on my calculator. I didn't realize you couldn't just plug in the numbers and press "hex" and get a correct answer. Anyway, John - I really think you need to think twice before making such rude comments as above. I happen to have an illness that's taken away a lot of my cognitive function - and I mourn that loss every day. I used to have a photographic memory and made straight A's all through high school and college - was on the Dean's list at Florida State University every semester. So I'm not "stupid", as you so inconsiderately implied. After that, I went on to become a Computer Programmer with the State of Florida and won high honors in that position. It's only been the last 5 years of dealing with a chronic illness that my thinking has gotten muddled. So I really just wanted to let you know that your comments were very hurtful and, in my opinion, totally unnecessary. A simple "correction" would have sufficed. ************************************************************* Jacki Barineau - (Music Composition/Production via MIDI, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Type II Diabetes ************************************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 01:22:28 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Howard Yen Subject: Re: u-110 HI Everyone! I am new to MIDI but I a lot of interest. I am looking to get a sythnzier, a good one. Anyone have any suggestion. on where what brand and so forth. Howard Yen ************************************************************************ Howard Yen email: howard_yen@cornell.edu Cornell University/College of Engineering/EE/CS Campus Address: 216 Delaware Ave. Apt 2 Ithaca NY, 14850 (607)275-9185 Home Address: 159-05 Laburnum Ave. Flushing NY, 11358 (718)939-7560 http://magic-box.resnet.cornell.edu/howard/ (C) hOWARD yEN production ************************************************************************ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 08:06:15 METDST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: HYNEK JIRI - FAV Organization: University of West Bohemia, Plzen Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion Comments: To: "Jacki W. Barineau" : Date sent: Mon, 1 May 1995 21:40:14 -0400 : Send reply to: Electronic Music Discussion List : From: "Jacki W. Barineau" : Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion : To: Multiple recipients of list EMUSIC-L : : On Mon, 1 May 1995, h a u s wrote: : : > Can anyone direct me to a chart that I can download that has a binary to hex : > conversion. Or does anyone now what "1111 1010" is in Hex. : > : : I just plugged in those numbers in my Programmer's calculator and it says : the hex is: R98R62 : : Hope this helps! : : ************************************************************* : Jacki Barineau - (Music Composition/Production via MIDI, : Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Type II Diabetes : ************************************************************* Hi, the only correct answer is: FA in hex. Take care, Jiri :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------- | Jiri Hynek | e-mail: hynek00@jonas.zcu.cz | | Programmer | phone: ++42/19/956 119 | | Tremosna 820 | | | 330 11 Czech Republic | | ----------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:22:50 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Neal Sievwright Subject: Re[2]: u-110 A good keyboard, what a wonderful question. What do YOU want the keyboard for ? Do you want to only use the keyboard as a music workstation for now, and add to it later ? Do you currently have a computer? Do you want to modify the sounds available in the keyboard to create new sounds ? Do you want a studio or a performance Keyboard? How much money do you want to spend? Best Regards Neal Sievwright sievwrn@agric.nsw.gov.au From the Downunder (other) side of the World - aaaagh !!!! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: u-110 Author: Electronic Music Discussion List at smtpgwy Date: 5/3/95 4:18 PM HI Everyone! I am new to MIDI but I a lot of interest. I am looking to get a sythnzier, a good one. Anyone have any suggestion. on where what brand and so forth. Howard Yen ************************************************************************ Howard Yen email: howard_yen@cornell.edu Cornell University/College of Engineering/EE/CS Campus Address: 216 Delaware Ave. Apt 2 Ithaca NY, 14850 (607)275-9185 Home Address: 159-05 Laburnum Ave. Flushing NY, 11358 (718)939-7560 http://magic-box.resnet.cornell.edu/howard/ (C) hOWARD yEN production ************************************************************************ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:26:06 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Neal Sievwright Subject: Re[2]: u-110 A good keyboard, what a wonderful question. What do YOU want the keyboard for ? Do you want to only use the keyboard as a music workstation for now, and add to it later ? Do you currently have a computer? Do you want to modify the sounds available in the keyboard to create new sounds ? Do you want a studio or a performance Keyboard? How much money do you want to spend? Best Regards Neal Sievwright sievwrn@agric.nsw.gov.au From the Downunder (other) side of the World - aaaagh !!!! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: u-110 Author: Electronic Music Discussion List at smtpgwy Date: 5/3/95 4:18 PM HI Everyone! I am new to MIDI but I a lot of interest. I am looking to get a sythnzier, a good one. Anyone have any suggestion. on where what brand and so forth. Howard Yen ************************************************************************ Howard Yen email: howard_yen@cornell.edu Cornell University/College of Engineering/EE/CS Campus Address: 216 Delaware Ave. Apt 2 Ithaca NY, 14850 (607)275-9185 Home Address: 159-05 Laburnum Ave. Flushing NY, 11358 (718)939-7560 http://magic-box.resnet.cornell.edu/howard/ (C) hOWARD yEN production ************************************************************************ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:31:19 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Neal Sievwright Subject: Re[2]: Binary to Hex conversion I agree not everyone has an innate knowledge of the technological workings of binary, hexadecimal, octal, and other number systems. Best Regards, Neal Sievwright sievwrn@agric.nsw.gov.au >From the Downunder (other) side of the World - aaaargh !!!! PS bet John Rossi can't convert 11000111100111 to a base 23 number system in his head ie not a spontaneous reply. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion Author: Electronic Music Discussion List at smtpgwy Date: 5/3/95 4:26 PM On Tue, 2 May 1995, john rossi wrote: > > I hope you don't operate complicated equipment for a living.... > (and later): > As to that goofy R98R62 answer provided above, one can only guess what > number system is being referenced. > > I guess it's true that they don't teach this stuff in school any longer. > It always amazes me that it takes me almost two complete class lectures > in CS-100 to get college freshemen and sophmores to comprehend this > simple arithmetic. It really is time to take back the school system. > Hey, I'm really sorry for sticking my neck out and trying to "help" here. I just noticed no one else had answered, and I knew there was a "hex" feature on my calculator. I didn't realize you couldn't just plug in the numbers and press "hex" and get a correct answer. Anyway, John - I really think you need to think twice before making such rude comments as above. I happen to have an illness that's taken away a lot of my cognitive function - and I mourn that loss every day. I used to have a photographic memory and made straight A's all through high school and college - was on the Dean's list at Florida State University every semester. So I'm not "stupid", as you so inconsiderately implied. After that, I went on to become a Computer Programmer with the State of Florida and won high honors in that position. It's only been the last 5 years of dealing with a chronic illness that my thinking has gotten muddled. So I really just wanted to let you know that your comments were very hurtful and, in my opinion, totally unnecessary. A simple "correction" would have sufficed. ************************************************************* Jacki Barineau - (Music Composition/Production via MIDI, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Type II Diabetes ************************************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 10:49:12 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: GILL Subject: Re: u-110 In-Reply-To: <199505030513.BAA24007@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> Hello, On 3 May 1995 Howard Yen asked which synth to buy! How about the Yamaha SY 85 workstation - at about 1000 in the UK. Does anybody know if there are any sounds for the SY 85 FTP anwhere on the internet? It will not accept normal midi files as it has it's own format. Thanks - Graeme Gill e-mail - graeme.gill@bbsrc.ac.uk p.s - desert island groups - Eyeless in Gaza Cabaret Voltaire Pere Ubu The Fall The Pop Group Mark Stewart and the Mafia as for the 90's - well that's another list. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 07:50:41 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Pete Schoenhoff Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: ; from "john rossi" at May 2, 95 10:39 pm These are the graceful words of john rossi: -> ->On Mon, 1 May 1995, Jacki W. Barineau wrote: -> ->> On Mon, 1 May 1995, h a u s wrote: ->> ->> > Can anyone direct me to a chart that I can download that has a binary to hex ->> > conversion. Or does anyone now what "1111 1010" is in Hex. ->> > ->> ->> I just plugged in those numbers in my Programmer's calculator and it says ->> the hex is: R98R62 ->> -> ->I hope you don't operate complicated equipment for a living.... -> ->1111 = "F" in Hex ->1010 = "A" in Hex -> ->Therefore 11111010 = FAh -> ->There is a simple way to remember this. Every digit in the 4-bit ->'nibble' is coded as a direct power of 2. The furthest right digit is ->2(0) or '1' [any number to the 0 power is 1], the next leftmost digit is ->2(1) or '2' [any number to the 1st power is the number itself], then next ->leftmost is 2(2) or '4' and furthest left digit of the nibble is 2(3) or ->'8'. If all the digits are 1 as in '1111' you simply sum the powers of 2 ->(8+4+2+1 = 15). Since Hex counts from 0 to F (15 decimal = 'F' in hex), ->1111 is the highest single Hex digit or 'F'. When there is a 0 in any ->binary digit, you simply substitute 0 for that power of 2. In the case ->of 1010 you would have (8+0+2+0 = 10), In decimal 10 equals 'A' in hex. ->This will work for any number of digits in binary sequence. It is not ->coincidental that a 4-bit nibble can be represented by the 16 hex digits ->(0-F). Hex replaced octal when it became apparent that computer ->acrhitectures were going to be byte based and word-based in multiples of ->bytes. Therefore, 2 hex digits (or a hex pair) can represent all 256 ->possible independent values of a byte. -> ->As to that goofy R98R62 answer provided above, one can only guess what ->number system is being referenced. -> ->I guess it's true that they don't teach this stuff in school any longer. ->It always amazes me that it takes me almost two complete class lectures ->in CS-100 to get college freshemen and sophmores to comprehend this ->simple arithmetic. It really is time to take back the school system. -> ->John 3 -> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 07:52:14 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Pete Schoenhoff Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: ; from "john rossi" at May 2, 95 10:39 pm Sorry about that last bounce- fingers hit the wrong key.... Pete Schoenhoff pschoenh@pen.k12.va.us ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 13:10:33 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: New thread from Dance&msc/LXP-5? >I love the LXP-1 and LXP-5. I'd buy another of each, were it not for the >fact that (i) they're very expensive in the UK and (ii) I don't have room >in the road cases for the power warts. (iii) the LXP-5 is a little flakey. I had mine serviced a couple of months ago, with new front panel encoders put in. Just yesterday (three days before some important live work) it looks like it's started to go again... Nick Rothwell CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance nick@cassiel.com "Success can be measured by only one thing: the hairs on the back of your neck." -- Twyla Tharp ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 13:10:08 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: FX >Having many boxes also gives you the >flexibility to route the audio any which way you like. That's why I really like the Peavey QFX I picked up at a blow-out sale a few months ago. Four independent effects (16 jacks) in a 1U rackmount. I now have both my rack cases fitted with jackbays across the top, so I can plug'n'play with the QFX, the two Lexicons and the Wavestation A/D's audio processing. Whoops, this is getting gearheady. Nick Rothwell CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance nick@cassiel.com "Success can be measured by only one thing: the hairs on the back of your neck." -- Twyla Tharp ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:20:31 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "william.b.fox" Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion Comments: To: emusic-l@american.edu John's treatise on binary math is actually very applicable to any base, not just base 2. We're all familiar with base 10. It has 10 single place characters (0 - 9). When you reach the largest value character, adding 1 resets that column and increments the next column to the left. (Example: 009 + 001 = 010; We usually don't show the leading 0s, but in hex and binary it is often done.) So base 16 (hexadecimal, or hex) has 16 single place characters (0 - F). See the pattern developing? Anywho, here's a quick conversion chart with some notes at some key junctures. BINARY HEX DECIMAL COMMENTS ---------- ----- ------- ---------------------------------------------- 0000 0000 0x00 0 0000 0001 0x01 1 Binary: 1's column at max value 0000 0010 0x02 2 Binary: 1's col. reset to 0, 2's col. incremented 0000 0011 0x03 3 Binary: 1's & 2's columns at max value 0000 0100 0x04 4 0000 0101 0x05 5 Binary: 1's column at max value 0000 0110 0x06 6 0000 0111 0x07 7 Binary: 1's, 2's, & 4's columns at max value 0000 1000 0x08 8 0000 1001 0x09 9 Decimal: 1's col at max value 0000 1010 0x0a 10 Decimal: 1's col reset to 0, 10's col incremented 0000 1011 0x0b 11 0000 1100 0x0c 12 0000 1101 0x0d 13 0000 1110 0x0e 14 0000 1111 0x0f 15 Hex: 1's col at max value; Binary:1,2,4,8's @ max 0001 0000 0x10 16 Hex: 1's col reset to 0, 16's col incremented 0001 0001 0x11 17 0001 0010 0x12 18 0001 0011 0x13 19 0001 0100 0x14 20 0001 0101 0x15 21 0001 0110 0x16 22 0001 0111 0x17 23 0001 1000 0x18 24 0001 1001 0x19 25 0001 1010 0x1a 26 0001 1011 0x1b 27 0001 1100 0x1c 28 0001 1101 0x1d 29 0001 1110 0x1e 30 0001 1111 0x1f 31 Hex: 1's col at max value 0010 0000 0x20 32 Hex: 1's col reset to 0, 16's col incremented 1111 1111 0xff 255 Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 10:50:26 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Michael Carnes Subject: Re: Sound or tone that causes defecation In-Reply-To: <199505030500.BAA22409@atlanta.american.edu> ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: text X-Sun-Data-Description: text X-Sun-Data-Name: text X-Sun-Content-Lines: 1 X-Sun-Content-Length: 127 The other night I was channel-surfing on TV. On comes "Yanni at the Acropolis". Off to the bathroom goes I. Hope this helps. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 11:58:45 -0300 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Friesen Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: <199505030500.BAA22409@atlanta.american.edu> Background: A reader posted to this newsgroup a few days ago, looking for the hex conversion of 11111010. There were several responses -- including some very helpful ones detailing a simple system to figure this out (the nybble=hex digit approach), and one in which the question was punched into a calculator and misinterpreted. I'd like to respond, briefly, to John Rossi's surprise that this sort of thing is not taught in our school systems. I hope that I'm not pulling this thread too far from the warp and weft of the list. I WILL bring the thread back into the realm of eMusic before I've finished. Some people may be wondering "how does somebody get into binary and hex without having the basic tools to learn about such conversions?" I truly don't know. When I started mucking about with hardcore MIDI, I did it because I wanted to program my Juno-106 using my computer. I dusted off my math and remembered what little we'd done with number bases in high school. I checked out the binary-decimal-hex table found in the back of nearly every Yamaha synth manual. Then I worked out the algorithm and wrote the code. I have to confess that the 'nybble=hex digit' trick was unknown to me until I heard it from Tom Rhea at Berklee. The result of all this was that, when the question "what is the hex equivalent of 11111010?" was posed, a minute (a bit slow, perhaps) of thinking got the correct conversions to both decimal and hex. Now, I FAILED calculus, so this kind of calculation cannot be said to be outside the reach of ordinary people. So why did somebody have to post the question? Because we've become accustomed to allowing machines to think for us. Because teachers either don't know what they're doing OR are constrained by curricula that dispenses with academic rigor in an effort to develop vaguely defined goals like "high self esteem" and "higher thinking skills". Because we've learned that it's much easier to ask somebody else rather than put in the time and effort to come up with our own solution. (Bear with me, I WILL return to emusic...) A real brouhaha has been raging on K12.chat.teacher newsgroup as regards the question "should long division be taught in schools?" There are those who maintain that the process is itself instructive and that the rigor of learning long division is even more valuable. There are also those who have said (I'm NOT kidding) that learning long division is harmful to the child and cannot be justified in an age where calculators are so easily available. Emusic Content: while I was at Berklee, I had the good fortune to take a Master Class with Tom Coster. One of the things he said to me was, in approximate (but very close) quote, "the kids today just think they can have it handed to them... they've got instant food, so they want instant success. They don't want to put in the time to sit down and really learn to play the shit out of their instruments." Hear, hear. Sitting down to hammer the keys (between teaching contracts), Michael Friesen ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 14:04:51 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: RonG225zt@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Ever blow a MIDI Interface??? Which brand of midi interface are you using? I had an Apple MIDI interface that just quit working once. But I've never had a rack mount interface go out on me. Ron ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:13:50 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Wired4Soun@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Sound or tone that causes defecation? Comments: cc: wmadavis@iglou.com >>I am trying to followup on something Dick Cavett said on his old PBS show >>a long time ago. I believe he was talking to John Cage or to someone who >>worked with John Cage, and he mentioned that there was a note or a tone >>that would cause the listener to defecate. I mentioned this to a music >>minister friend of mine and he gave me a dirty look, so I need to find out >>what he was talking about, and I couldn't think an appropriate list to >>post this to. Please e-mail back a reply, since I don't subscribe to the >>list. I heard a story about this around 1975-76. It was about chopper pilots being diapered before going out to fly their missions with very low frequency sound systems mounted on the underside of their ships. Demoralizing warfare seems like a rather redundant notion. I've never heard anything about this since then. Tom Jordan Wired for Sound! - computer music for kids ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 17:35:27 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: from "Friesen" at May 3, 95 11:58:45 am > A real brouhaha has been raging on K12.chat.teacher newsgroup as regards > the question "should long division be taught in schools?" There are > those who maintain that the process is itself instructive and that the > rigor of learning long division is even more valuable. There are also > those who have said (I'm NOT kidding) that learning long division is > harmful to the child and cannot be justified in an age where calculators > are so easily available. > (Pause. Reread. Pause. Reread. Shake head in disbelief.) Good heavens. I'd feel my hypothetical kid was getting cheated if he didn't know how to do long division. How are you supposed to do math in your head without knowing that? --- Joe M. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 18:38:20 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: h a u s Subject: KORG S3 Sound Cards Hello everyone: Yes I was one of those fortunate ones (I say sarcastically) who purchased the Korg S3 Drum box before they dropped the unit. I have been able to aquire all of them except for the Stereo Drum card and the RAM Data card. If by any slight act of god you have come accross them or even have one to sell please contact me via email at haus@io.org. Thanks. Christos. --- h a u s Electro-Body Experience ---- Representing and developing Ambient, Experimental and Industrial artists. Email - haus@io.org | URL - http://www.io.org/~haus | Finger - haus@io.org ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 19:38:47 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Wayne Hatwich Subject: Re: Ever blow a MIDI Interface??? Thanks for all of your replies regarding my suspected MIDI interface problem. I have since solved my problem and will try to describe my scenerio so that others might benefit. I have a Mac Quadra950, I use Finale 3.01 and I use an Ensoniq VFX-SD keyboard for MIDI input and for playback from Finale. Since March (sic!), one day Finale quit recognizing the keyboard input, but I could continue to play back to the keyboard fine. I went to AOL's Coda technical support (they were a bit more responsive then than they are now!) and they recommended zapping the P-RAM, removing conflicting system extensions, using Apple's MIDI Driver, NOT using Apple's MIDI Driver (!), using a program called MIDI Mangler to free the serial port, reinstalling Finale, buying Conflict Catcher, and finally checking the MIDI *cables*. Needless to say, these suggestions were made over a period of time after I would try their remedies one by one to no avail. I was beginning to think there was something wrong with the synthesizer. Then I bought Opcode's Midi Translator II to replace my Altech MIDI Interface, and BINGO, the thing works again. So, not only can these interface devices BLOW, they can HALF BLOW since Finale's output continued to transfer just fine! Looking back, however, it would be great if there were a series of prioritized steps that I could have followed to trouble-shoot this. Somehow I think I could have saved some unnecessary expense (Conflict Catcher, new MIDI cables) and a significant down time (nearly 2 months!) if only someone could have even suggested that the MIDI interface was bad (This was NOT one of Coda's suggestions from their technical support people!) As it was, I discovered it myself. I hope this information can help someone from repeating this fiasco. Wayne Hatwich bwv545@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 21:01:03 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Pete Schoenhoff Subject: Re: Re[2]: Binary to Hex conversion These are the graceful words of Neal Sievwright: ->PS bet John Rossi can't convert 11000111100111 ->to a base 23 number system in his head. I sure can't. I tried, but had to resort to paper and pencil. It took me more than 5 minutes! By the way, for the currious, the decimal equivalent of binary 11000111100111 is 12775, And the triduodecimal (is that what you'd call a base 23 system?) is "113A" Pete Schoenhoff pschoenh@pen.k12.va.us ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 21:54:41 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Michael Conlen Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: <199505032135.RAA14384@clark.net> On Wed, 3 May 1995, Joe McMahon wrote: > > A real brouhaha has been raging on K12.chat.teacher newsgroup as regards > > the question "should long division be taught in schools?" There are > > those who maintain that the process is itself instructive and that the > > rigor of learning long division is even more valuable. There are also > > those who have said (I'm NOT kidding) that learning long division is > > harmful to the child and cannot be justified in an age where calculators > > are so easily available. > > > (Pause. Reread. Pause. Reread. Shake head in disbelief.) > Good heavens. I'd feel my hypothetical kid was getting cheated if he didn't > know how to do long division. How are you supposed to do math in your head > without knowing that? When I was in elementary school, I couldnt wait to learn long division, for the simple fact that is was something new. I wanted to learn how to do algebra when I was in middle school, I wanted to learn to do derivitaves and intergrals in highschool, all with pencil and paper. I have found that being able to do simple math in my head has helped me out many times. Why just today, someone locked my cash drawer at work, opps, couldnt use the computer to tell me how much to take out at the end of the night, Oh darn I had to count it out, and subtract the opening drawer. (Honestly I found I had become complacent somewhere). Most simple math can be done FASTER by someone who uses their head then someone who whips out the handy dandy TI85 or whatever is popular this year. This dosent even take in to consideration the advantage in understand concept's when you are learning things like working with fractions! Well, I guess I can see where the teachers are comming from, I mean imagine if they had to figure out grades by had for each test! Oh boy, the work! Groove on Dude Michael Conlen meconlen@intnet.net Sorry for being off topic, I will step down off my soap box for now ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 13:03:45 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Re: Ever blow a MIDI Interface??? Wayne Hatwich wrote: >Second question - does anyone know if it is possible for MIDI to be >transfered successfully INTO a keyboard (Ensoniq VFX-SD) but not OUT of it? If by this, you mean that whatever you send to the MIDI IN of your vfx is being echoed to the MIDI OUT, then... Does the vfx have a MIDI IN, a MIDI OUT and a MIDI THRU? The purpose of the MIDI THRU is to echo whatever arrives at the MIDI IN. If the MIDI OUT is doing this, I suspect that there is a software page somewhere which gives you the option of having the MIDI OUT do this or not. I suggest you look at the manual. Joe McMahon, one of this list's illustrious leaders can probably give a more definite answer. I'm pretty sure he's got a vfx. Regards, David musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 21:54:59 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: atomic city Subject: A few words on the latest project from Atomic City Comments: To: Analogue Heaven Mailing List , Electronica List , SYNTH-L , EMUSIC-L At 0937 EDT on 3 May 1995, after a labor that the midwife and attendant nurses described as 'miraculous, especially for a first pregnancy' but which I prefer to think of as 'nasty, brutish and short', the emusic world welcomed Atomic City's newest project: Julia Grace Metlay, Hebrew name Tovah. I won't bore you with the details of the delivery, other than to say that my respect for my wife Suzanne, already strong, has deepened considerably in the past 24 hours. Julia, our first child, is absolutely beautiful, suffering few of the temporary disfigurements suffered by many newborns in labor and delivery. At birth, she weighed 2.64 kg (5lbs.13oz.) and was 49 cm (19.25in.) long, and appears to be in perfect health. Her mother is recovering nicely, as is her father, who is still in shock. Email, kind thoughts, and prayers of all sorts will be most welcome. If one or both of us vanishes off the face of the planet for a while (i.e. no email, no phone calls returned, no letters, etc.), please don't be too surprised or offended; we're rather new at this, and will need time to get our lives reorganized. I am temporarily resigning as co-moderator of EMUSIC-L and SYNTH-L to deal with my new responsibilities, and may sign off completely, and from Analogue Heaven and Electronica as well, if the new time strictures demand it. But if so, I doubt I'll be gone forever, and until we cross paths again, the three of us wish you all well. Mike Metlay, for Suzanne ("The Management") and Julia ("MicroMetlay") ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 04:15:44 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "William R. Shannon" Subject: Re: A few words on the latest project from Atomic City Mike, Congratulations and best regards. WeUve done this now x2 (daughters 4 1/2 and 6). Best advice: savor naptime and get some sleep. DonUt plan on completing your 4th Symphony before 1998. Every minute will be worthwhile. Bill ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 01:24:14 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Brian Coates Subject: Sound or tone that causes defecation? Comments: To: wmadavis@IGLOU.COM > I am trying to followup on something Dick Cavett said on his old PBS show > a long time ago. I believe he was talking to John Cage or to someone who > worked with John Cage, and he mentioned that there was a note or a tone > that would cause the listener to defecate. I mentioned this to a music > minister friend of mine and he gave me a dirty look, so I need to find out > what he was talking about, and I couldn't think an appropriate list to > post this to. Please e-mail back a reply, since I don't subscribe to the > list. > I know _of_ what you are talking, but not many specifics. I heard that a 17Hz sine wave played loudly enough would cause that. We used to joke about it, wishing clubs had equipment that could play music that low in frequency, we'd have a hit! " Man, that stuff is so good it made me sh__" "yeah, me too!" I'd like to find that old PBS show sometime. Brian ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 07:12:36 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Pete Schoenhoff Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: ; from "Michael Conlen" at May 3, 95 9:54 pm These are the graceful words of Michael Conlen: ->Well, I guess I can see where the teachers are comming ->from, I mean imagine if they had to figure out grades by ->had for each test! Oh boy, the work! I teach elementary school music, and I do agree with you: I think children should learn to do all kinds of computation on paper, and I think they should learn tricks to help them do it in their head. (I'm still bitter about the fact that I was never taught how to compute roots on paper! None of my teachers would explain it, and nobody today remembers how!) I think that in midle school they should learn the reasons/proofs for all the formulae they learn, so that if they forget the formula, it is fairly easy to reconstruct. I think they should be REQUIRED to learn programming from elementary school on- it teaches logic. It teaches creative problem solving. It teaches them to think for themselves. It teaches them to consider the consequenses of any action they take! (GIGO!) BUT, in defense of the classroom teahers I work with (the ones teaching math and other things) - The kids today do not have the readiness for learning that we did! Many of them come to school hungry, and cannot concentrate until they are fed. Many are so neglected at home that they can't focus on long division. Many lack the discipline it takes to ensure that a class may spend any real time in trying to learn. I guess what I'm saying is that the teachers that I know are fully capapble and willing to teach these things, although they sometimes have to spend their time helping some children deal with more pressing problems. Sad thing, ain't it? We're trying! Please pray for us, and wish us the best. Thanks. Today, we really need it. Pete Schoenhoff pschoenh@pen.k12.va.us ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 07:53:33 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: VLeComer@AOL.COM Subject: Re: A few words on the latest project from Atomic City Congratulations on your new release. Best wishes for the future... Victor ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 08:56:08 EST Reply-To: STERN@MAIL.LOC.GOV Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List Comments: MAX 4 WIN From: JOEL STERN Subject: MAX 4 WIN Comments: To: emusic-l@american.edu This is just to let folks know that the MAX 4 Windows petition, v 1.0, went out to Opcode last week. At time of transmission I had 30 names on the list. I had a reply from the recipient (I've got his name at home...) the next day, essentially saying keep those cards and letters coming in. Obviously, 30 names is not overwhelming to Opcode in terms of determining whether or not to devote the next year to developing a new product. But hopefully they will take it as symptomatic and infer that there must be millions of others out there waiting to spend $200 or $300 on MAX :) Anyone else who hasn't already, you can still send me your name and email address if you want Opcode to develop MAX for Windows. Joel Stern stern@email.loc.gov j.stern11@geis.genie.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 09:26:57 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Harry Lawrence Subject: Re: A few words on the latest project from Atomic City Congratulations to all involved in the blessed event. I don't know what else to say except have a good life and enjoy one another. VITA BREVIS. ARS LONGA. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 09:30:55 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Eric Harnden (Ronin)" Subject: il gruppo's location Comments: To: eml@physics.american.edu this is mostly meant for joel stern, whose listed addresses keep bouncing my replies... but if anyone else cares, of course... the experimental theater at the american university is located at the (slightly) northwestern corner of the quad. standing on the quad, facing kay chapel (the low domed building with the golden flame on top), the theater is the building directly to the chapel's left. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:02:03 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Brian Adamson Subject: Re: A few words on the latest project from Atomic City Comments: To: atomic city To the Metlay family: Mucho congratulations! I can appreciate what your are/will be going through having been blessed with our first child (Connor Ryan) on the order of 7 months ago. As everyone will no doubt tell you, it gets easier (but no less wonderful) as time goes on. While your musical interests may suffer a bit from the "time strictures" in the short run, the inspiration provided by the little one in the long run will no doubt outweigh the interim demands. Best of luck and congratulations once again, Brian ___________________________________________________________________ R. Brian Adamson Information Technology Division adamson@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory NRL Code 5523 Washington, DC 20375 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 10:50:20 PDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: James Knight Subject: Re: Re[2]: Binary to Hex conversion By the way, for the currious, the decimal equivalent of binary 11000111100111 is 12775, And the triduodecimal (is that what you'd call a base 23 system?) is "113A" no offense, but i got a different answer.. how does GD4 sound ? or, to put it in pseudo decimal digits, 17/14/04. checked against bc on my unix machine.. incidentally, for consideration: if oct(al) 31 equals dec(imal) 25 does this mean hallowe'en equals christmas ? james knight entomology department byte designs limited james@byted.com tel:604/534-0722 fax:604/534-2601 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 15:48:33 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Jeff Adkins Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion Pete Schoenhoff writes: > I teach elementary school music, and I do agree with you: I think >children should learn to do all kinds of computation on paper, and I think >they should learn tricks to help them do it in their head. (I'm still >bitter about the fact that I was never taught how to compute roots on paper! >None of my teachers would explain it, and nobody today remembers how!) I >think that in midle school they should learn the reasons/proofs for all the >formulae they learn, so that if they forget the formula, it is fairly easy to >reconstruct. I think they should be REQUIRED to learn programming from >elementary school on- it teaches logic. It teaches creative problem solving. >It teaches them to think for themselves. It teaches them to consider the >consequenses of any action they take! (GIGO!) > BUT, in defense of the classroom teahers I work with (the ones >teaching math and other things) - The kids today do not have the readiness >for learning that we did! Many of them come to school hungry, and cannot >concentrate until they are fed. Many are so neglected at home that they >can't focus on long division. Many lack the discipline it takes to ensure >that a class may spend any real time in trying to learn. I guess what >I'm saying is that the teachers that I know are fully capapble and willing >to teach these things, although they sometimes have to spend their time >helping some children deal with more pressing problems. > Sad thing, ain't it? We're trying! Please pray for us, and >wish us the best. Thanks. Today, we really need it. > Pete Schoenhoff > pschoenh@pen.k12.va.us You have my sympathy--I'm presently trying to avoid a teaching career despite having been trained for it. My field and sub experienced has reinforced the fact that today's schools are expected to accomplish ever more with less. Teachers, e. g., must be substitute "parents" in many cases, policemen (-persons?), nurses, social workers, psychologists, etc. etc.,and especially motivators (teachers can't force learning or discipline, and the kids know this), and must try to teach long division (IMO) in there somewhere as well. Teachers I know pay for materials out of pocket, and many (not all) spend most of their time beyond school hours grading, planning, preparing, and keeping up to date with the latest research. All this while being underpaid (IMO), criticized and ridiculed. Many of their harshest critics are willfully unfamiliar with how humans learn. Many want to eliminate "frivolous" music and art programs. Many critics compare test scores with countries that unlike the U.S., don't guarantee a free public education for all their citizens. Public schools and teachers are convenient spapegoats for society's ills; at the same time education's role in eradicating these ills is strongly correlated throughout the world and throughout recent history. Since many stand to privately benefit from censorship, dis-education and critical weakness among the citizens, education's just not really a priority in the U.S. anymore. -jeff Jeff Adkins ================ jadkins@infi.net ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:53:22 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Pete Schoenhoff Subject: Re: Binary to Hex conversion In-Reply-To: ; from "Jeff Adkins" at May 4, 95 3:48 pm These are the graceful words of Jeff Adkins: ->You have my sympathy--I'm presently trying to avoid a teaching career ->despite having been trained for it. My field and sub experienced has ->reinforced the fact that today's schools are expected to accomplish ever ->more with less. Please don't get me wrong! - I love my job- I woudn't trade it for another! I also am not responsible for teaching things like long division. Music teachers have other hardships, but they also have other joys that make it all worth the time. Every day I have frustrations, but so does every other person on this list! Some days are so wonderful that I can't believe they pay me to do this! You are right on many points though - children need teachers to do so much more now than they used to - the kids today really do have different problems! It's not that teachers are incapable of teaching long division. It's not that the teachers (at my school) are even unwilling. Most of them would be happy to teach anything challenging (and they do!) - but many children can't concentrate that long today, and many, MANY others have been taught at home (unintentionally) that there is no need to work to get an answer/solution/reward when there is an easier way. How can kids ever learn pride in their work when their parents are content to stay at home and accept an undeserved welfare check every month? How can they care about the importance of deserved respect when mom's drunk every night and dad's sleeping around on her? I only meant to defent the efforts of the teachers I know and work with! They do a good job! Conditions have just changed. I really beleive that they'll change again soon, too. - At this point in our system, SOMETHING has got to give.... I seem to have drifted from our original BIN/HEX conversion thread, so I'll just sign off here. :-) Sorry, everyone!! Thanks, Pete Schoenhoff pschoenh@pen.k12.va.us ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 18:51:18 BST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: A S Bradbury Comments: To: EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU >From cgzasb@scs.leeds.ac.uk Thu May 4 18:23:47 1995 Received: from csunb0.leeds.ac.uk (csunb0.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.144.2]) by sun.leeds.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA20821 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 18:23:46 +0100 From: cgzasb@scs.leeds.ac.uk Received: from csirisa.scs.leeds.ac.uk (csirisa.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.144.129]) by csunb0.leeds.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA11240 for ; Thu, 4 May 1995 18:23:44 +0100 Received: from csgi17.scs.leeds.ac.uk by csirisa.scs.leeds.ac.uk; Thu, 4 May 1995 18:25:55 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 18:25:55 +0100 Message-Id: <4460.199505041725@csgi17.scs.leeds.ac.uk> To: csp2asb@sun.leeds.ac.uk Status: R Hello Joe, I recently came accross your music society page on the web. The responses of your members would be much appreciated in the study I am performing. If possible could you please put up the following header page in your area, it would be an immense help. Thanks, Az. Currently I am an undergraduate at the University of Leeds where I am presently involved in a simple study looking at the physical reaction(s) [Thrill(s)] that a musical piece may cause to happen in an individual. The basic idea of the project is to look at how useful the web could be in an experimental context. With the internet expanding at the rate it is there is no longer any need to experiment / test as we have done in the past. The study I am conducting involves a simple questionaire which asks you to describe reactions (tingles, shivers down the spine etc) you have had to whatever piece of music you wish to describe. The questionaire may be found at the following WWW address. Address : http://lethe.leeds.ac.uk/misc/musicform.html This is obviously a very simple version of what could be done but what it demonstrates is that the experimenter / subject relationship is no longer required. Computer terminals connected to the Web can provide both musical & visual stimuli coupled with the mouse we have a simple reaction time recorder. The aim for this experiment is to collect data through use of the web in order to show it to be a viable method, whilst conducting a simple study with the possibility of expanding its complexity in further future research. The experiment (questionaire - in this case) can be done at the subject's own pace without any tension that can be created under a normal experimental setting. If you find the time in the next day or so, your answers to my questionaire would be greatly appreciated. If you know of any other musical groups / people whom you feel may be interested in taking part in this study, would you please forward them the Web address of the questionaire. ADDITIONAL NOTES (1) I will post any interesting findings my study may turn up at the same address on completion of my study. (2) TO SELECT MULTIPLE OPTIONS IN THE QUESTIONS (WHERE REQUIRED), HOLD DOWN & CLICK THE MOUSE TO HIGHLIGHT THE OPTIONS. (3) On submission of the answers to you questionaire the results are mailed to my e-mail addresses (a) csp2asb@lucs-03.leeds.ac.uk (b) cgzasb@scs.leeds.ac.uk (4) Any information collected will be dealt with using the greatest care & confidentiality. Please mail me if you DO NOT wish to appear in the aknowledgements contained within my report. (5) If the piece of music you choose to describe has been written on a computer, a text file of the event list would be useful to me. (6) The program has been specifically written to run on the Web. I have included a copy of the questions used in the questionaire. However, this method involves more effort on your behalf in order to give your responses (as it was not intended to be done this way). If there is no other way you can gain access to the WWW if you are feeling energetic you could use the questions attached below to create a text file & mail it to me at cgzasb@leeds.ac.uk . Thankyou for your time & support Az. WWW Address of questionaire: http://lethe.leeds.ac.uk/misc/musicform.html Thankyou for taking part in my emotion / musical study. Could you please answer the following questions to the best of your ability. Name: Age Band: