========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 01:12:00 PDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Tony Cappellini Subject: Sample Vision for Dos for sale Comments: To: multisound@lists.colorado.edu Disk and manual are ORIGINAL, not copies. Latest version , 2.02. Supports 15 different samplers. Originally sold for $399, currently sells for $99. My price $50 plus shipping. Reply via email, not to mail lists. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Our prices are INsane. We WILL not be oversold ! 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Thanks, Kirk -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dr. Kirk Corey [insert Electronic Systems Administrator kirk-corey@uiowa.edu disclaimer School of Music http://kahless.music.uiowa.edu/~kcorey/ here] The University of Iowa "Exon" is a four-letter word that shouldn't be allowed on the Internet. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 13:32:08 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Travis Pollard <73553.1146@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Electronic Mixboard My friend is looking for an electronic mixboard that he can use on his IBM compatible computer. He wants something with an interface similiar to Cakewalk, but records digital info. through the microphone instead of MIDI. Does such a thing exist? If it does could I have the price, who makes it, etc. Also I was looking for a MIDI wind controller with saxophone fingerings. Any suggestions? I really don't want to apend over $300 and I heard Yamaha has a nice model for that price. Thanks for any help. Travis ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 20:18:07 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Joe McMahon Subject: forwarded re: clavinova q. Tyson, please be sure you send messages meant for the list to EMUSIC-L. I don't have the extra time required to continue forwarding misaddressed messages. --- Joe M. Tyson writes: > > > > 3. What controller would you recommend for a piano player who is > > accustomed to weighted action? > > Peavey DPMC8 or DPMC8p (the light version, no disk drive, etc.) > > Others you may consider are: > > Roland A80 (kinda pricey compared to other controllers) > Yamaha KX88 (an old favorite, but MIDI impl. is from the Stone Age) > > Or, perhaps an 88 key keyboard: > > Kurzweil PCM88 (has gotten great reviews) > Ensoniq KT88 > > The DPMC8 has arguably the most powerful MIDI implementation > around. 8 zones (ranges) that are fully programmable. 2 CV pedal > inserts, 4 sliders, 64 *patch* memory, disk drive, etc. Most of all, > it has a very decent touch. You won't ever get it confused with a > nice 9' Steinway, but at least you can put the DPMC8 is your car. > > The Roland is (or was) $800 more than the Peavey and it doesn't > have anything worth the extra $800. The Peavey actually has a > better touch. > > The KX88 is reknown for its touch, but the MIDI implementation is > woefully behind the times. > > That's my 2 cents. > Tyson > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 20:26:01 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: Sample Vision for Dos for sale In-Reply-To: from "Tony Cappellini" at Jul 16, 95 01:12:00 am Tsk, tsk, Tony. You know not to post ads on EMUSIC-L. Shame on you. :) --- Joe M. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 20:28:17 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: Looking for a Mac software synth In-Reply-To: from "Dr. Kirk Corey" at Jul 16, 95 11:53:32 am > > Hello, I'm looking for a Macintosh software synthesizer that goes by a name > something like "Music V" or "Music 5". I think the author is Simone Bettini. > I've been told by someone who uses it that the program is available via ftp, > but archie and various WWW searches have come up empty. If anyone can > tell me where this can be found via ftp and/or on the Web, I'd be most > grateful. > There sould be a copy at your friendly neighborhood sumex-aim mirror (I have the best luck at mirrors.aol.com) in the /info-mac/snd directory somewhere. --- Joe M. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 21:08:29 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Chris Theodore Subject: Rack-mounting audio components? I (like most of you, I'm guessing) have a bunch of audio components stacked on top of each other. I'd like to mount them in my rack case along with my regular signal-processing gear. The problems are (if you haven't guessed already) that 1.) audio components aren't built to "standardized" dimensions and 2.) I have no idea how to obtain & install rack ears. Anyone have any ideas? -Chris theodorec@vaxvmsx.babson.edu----------------------------------ITSD Help Desk ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 23:12:11 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: list - Nick Batyko Subject: Re: Rack-mounting audio components? I may have one idea. I hope it can help you out. The're called amp rack racks and all you do is mount them to your amp rack and just place your stereo equipment on top of them. You can find them in any DJ stores. If you can't find any I have listed a few names that have them. Upstairs Records 2968 Ave.X 1-800-824-0855 Brooklyn, NY 11235 Pro Sound & Stage Lighting 11711 Monarch Street 1-800-945-9300 Garden Grove, CA 92641 Hope I can help! >SpiceG14 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 23:50:02 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Justin Hardison Subject: Fwd: SOLAR YOUTH AND FREE STU... Comments: To: Julian@ares.csd.net, ritchie@vilas.uwex.edu, djeter@cs.utk.edu, undrwrld@gate.net, MelHAVOC@aol.com --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: SOLAR YOUTH AND FREE STUFF!! Date: 95-07-16 23:46:13 EDT From: Solaryouth To: bvux 74b@prodigy.com,Synklavier To: SERAVES@american.edu,SAYmike To: Xgirl 2727,fiction8@rmii.com To: br656@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu To: SPROTHER@nyx.cs.du.edu To: email@fringeware.com,Mymask1 To: Mainline@netcom.com,bbum@friday.com Alright everybody, this is the last call for all bands, D.J.'s, and publications wishing to carry their releases and items in the internationally distributed SOLAR VAPOR CATALOG. Solar Youth Records is a label and organization designed to promote the best in underground dance and E.B.M. music. The 1995 Catalog will carry our releases in addition to other individuals releases and D.J. Tapes, in addition to publications.Solar Youth is not about making money but instead is about promoting the best in new talent. All deals are based on a proffesional consignment level and are 100% legit and free of charge. The catalog will be promoted everywhere you can think of and on the Solar Youth web site that is currently under construction. If you or anyone you know is interested, please E-mail direct A.S.A.P.. All deals are coming to a close soon so make contact now!. Don't miss out on a chance to be promoted to thousands of listeners and promoters! In other news, if your in Colorado, the ORACLE FESTIVAL is happening on Aug. 5th and 6th. It's a two date event in the mountains with acts and D.J.'s such as Keoki, Nebula 9, and King Britt from the Digable Planets. For more info contact LIFEFORCE at (303) 575-1113 or http://www.csd.net/ 'Julian/welcome.html or http://hyperreal.com/raves/mtn/denver.html. D.J. SKUNK has just completed his new 90 MIN. House tape "The Throw Down" which is available through us. E-Mail or write for more info. If you'd like to receive a free cass. promo of four new tracks by OSIRIS, E-Mail direct and leave your mailing address with us. Supply is limited! Anyone else that would like to receive info and get on our mail and E-Mail address, Leave all your info with us. In the meantime, the Solar Vapor newsletter #2 is coming out on thursday so if you have any events or info that you would like us to post in it ( no, it's for free) E-mail it to us and will spread the word. We will also distribute publications and flyers ( yes, for free)!! Keep Positive, Justin Hardison (Solar Youth) P.O. Box 6391 Denver, Co. 80206-0391 (303)634-4228 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 01:39:44 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Brian Coates Subject: Re: Mac software synth >Subject: Looking for a Mac software synth > >Hello, I'm looking for a Macintosh software synthesizer that goes by a name >something like "Music V" or "Music 5". I think the author is Simone Bettini. >I've been told by someone who uses it that the program is available via ftp, >but archie and various WWW searches have come up empty. If anyone can >tell me where this can be found via ftp and/or on the Web, I'd be most >grateful. I found it on InfoMac in snd/utilities as m5. It's not called Music 5 there in the directory, but that's what it's called after you unstuff it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ VRRRUMP UMP UMP UMP BRRRRRRRR U U U UMMP ["glaaaaarrrgh. arrkk Master arrrk blaaaaa a a a abbbysss"] VRRRUMP UMP UMP UMP BRRRRRRRR U U U UMMP - BLISTERING SATAN METAL by LX Rudis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 10:27:30 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Robin Sayer Subject: Re: SAW demo on WWW? In-Reply-To: On Sat, 15 Jul 1995, isor wrote: > has anyone tried this yet? When i dropped the file (under windows) onto > my MIDI progarm group the computer "thought" it was a dos program. Saw 3 > is for a PC i hope? > > Eric Allen Seale of ISOR magazine \ Br. Box 1566 \ Edwardsville, IL > The file you have SAW3DEMO.EXE is a self-extracting executable. This means that it has been compressed (normally using PKZIP & ZIP2EXE) - Move the file to a new empty directory and then run the executable from DOS - This will cause the actual program to be extracted into this directory. Once you've extracted the files you no longer need SAW3DEMO.EXE and can delete it Robin rsay@wimpol.demon.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 12:08:16 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: isor Subject: Re: SAW demo on WWW! (re-boot!) In-Reply-To: i tried to run SAW3DEMO.EXE in dos and it re-started my computer. Any comments? ps -anyone get unisyn yet (the PC version) Eric Allen Seale of ISOR magazine \ Br. Box 1566 \ Edwardsville, IL ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 10:26:10 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Lorne Hammond Subject: Akai ex-8 midi drum expander halp! Hi Picked up for $50 ($40 US) at (yes, I know, they must have been crazy that day) a pawnshop (really), an AKAI MIDI drum Expander EX-8. Two card slots, no cards, no manual. Odd confusing panel, but full off interesting drum kits. Seems to have a VCA for each sound. 8 outs and mix. Velocity. Parameter 1, 2, 3 buttons. Two letter LCD. Confused. Anyone able to explain it to me? I assume it is permanently MIDI channel 10, because it has no references to MIDI on the panel switches. Vintage: same rack mount and colour as the S700, S900, S950 samplers. Meant to go with them I suppose, or is full of factory sounds for those, ported over to ROM. Lorne lhammond@sol.uvic.ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 17:10:45 -0600 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Randy Cole Subject: Re: New Kid -Reply -Reply -Reply -Reply Mace, Your Law Musical sounds very well put together and thought out...congratulations and I would love to hear it. How would you describe the style of the music? AND when is the musical set and where? For the book, did you do much pre-writing or what? Again the question volcano erupts. ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 23:21:50 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Matthew W. Tanquary" Subject: Re: Electronic Mixboard Dunno about the electronic mixboard, you should look into SoundBlasters, Awe 32 and new wave table cards, they may be what your friend needs. The Yamaha WX-11 wind comtroller is the best you'll get for around $300, but you'll need a synth or something for it to controll, because it's sound module is sold separately for like $500 or something like that. If you plan on doing any serious 'EWI' playing outside of your home though, I recommend that you save and get an EWI, from Akai, they are alot easier to control than the WX-11 and have some extra features. But, for just kickin back, and jammin', the WX-11 is my favorite toy. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 15:12:57 -0600 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Simon McGuire Subject: Algorithmic Composition Hi All, Found a great bit of freeware the other day - an algorithmic compositional tool called soundscape. Being a fan of ambient music, the package was like a breath of fresh air after spending hours peering into grid editors and tweaking the tiniest analy retentive MIDI paramters. I find soundscape to be more like an interactive game because you just never know whats around the next corner but one is armed and ready to influence the outcome. Comments? Its not too far fetched to presume that the author of the package may be present on this list. If so, Id love to hear from you.... Sincerely Simon ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:49:20 +0200 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Marc Resibois Subject: Re: Algorithmic Composition Simon, Thanks for having shed some dim light on Soundscape but more information would be welcome... Where can we find it and on which kind of hardware does it run ? Thanks in advance, | Hi All, | Found a great bit of freeware the other day - an algorithmic | compositional tool called soundscape. | | Being a fan of ambient music, the package was like a breath of fresh air | after spending hours peering into grid editors and tweaking the tiniest | analy retentive MIDI paramters. | | I find soundscape to be more like an interactive game because you just | never know whats around the next corner but one is armed and ready to | influence the outcome. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 13:17:06 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Gus Alden Subject: Midi File Collaberations? QUESTIONS- Is it possible to upload and download midi files on the internet? If so. is it being done, and where? And if so, is there anyone or any group of ones actively interested in collaborating on musical compositions (for the joy of it) in such a way.? Related question- Has anyone heard about the dudes from Evanston, Illinois (their names are Canton Becker and Matt Moller) who are jamming over the internet with people worldwide? Has anybody hooked in with with they're doing? And if so, how did you do that? What kind of hardware and/or software is needed to make that possible? - Curiosity is killing this cat --------------- Gus Alden aldenoob@biddeford.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 13:44:00 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: list - Nick Batyko Subject: recording CD's on computer disc?? I am sort of new here and I want to know if you can dub music compact discs to a 3.5" floppy computer disc. Does anyone know. Oh, and also is there such things as blank CD's that you can record on? If so do you have to buy a certain CD-Rom player to record on them? Any help would be great. >SpiceG14@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 13:22:03 CDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Janice Saffir Subject: Re: Algorithmic Composition In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of TUE 18 JUL 1995 04:12:57 CDT >Hi All, > Found a great bit of freeware the other day - an algorithmic >compositional tool called soundscape. Can I get Soundscape by FTP somewhere? Have you tried Aleatoric Composer? It's shareware. In zip form, it's called alcomp.zip, although there is a version number in the name. It's lots of fun. Janice Saffir Northeast Missouri State University fa19%nemomus@academic.nemostate.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 13:43:39 CDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Kevan L. Moore" Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? > > I am sort of new here and I want to know if you can dub music compact discs > to a 3.5" floppy computer disc. Does anyone know. without compression, at 44khz sampling rate, 16 bits, stereo, you need 176kBytes/second. a 1.4meg floppy disk could hold less than 10 seconds. sorry. years ago (1980) i wondered why you couldn't hook a video camera (which recorded onto magnetic media) to a phone line (since the handset was magnetic) and have over-the-phone video. it's a simple problem of too-much-data-per-second being consumed. > Oh, and also is there such things as blank CD's that you can record on? If > so do you have to buy a certain CD-Rom player to record on them? record-your-own cds exist but it takes an expensive (few grand) cd recorder to do it. the recordable cds are over $20 a pop, but at least they'll play on regular cd players once they're written. some people offer the service for $X for the first cd and then $x per cd thereafter. i'm gonna have one or two made myself, just for posterity, not for profit. it's a good idea. welcome to the list. glad to have you on-board. kevan l moore ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 14:56:34 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Alex Sanielevici Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? In-Reply-To: <950718134400_117480787@aol.com> On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, list - Nick Batyko wrote: > I am sort of new here and I want to know if you can dub music compact discs > to a 3.5" floppy computer disc. Does anyone know. Ummm... CD quality audio takes up about 10MB per minute. A high density floppy can store 1.4MB. So theoretically you could dub about 8.5 seconds of it, but it would be so slow to access that you couldn't play it real-time. If you want to dub your CD's onto digital media which is readable by your computer (why would you?), you could do it onto your hard disk or removable high-capacity media, either by analog (no add'tl hardware required) or digital (digital input required) means. > > Oh, and also is there such things as blank CD's that you can record on? If > so do you have to buy a certain CD-Rom player to record on them? > Sure, they're called CD-R. They're 10$ a disk (minimum), are not as durable as real CD's (they use green dye instead of real pits in the surface of the disk). Recorders go for about $1500 and prices are falling. Oh yeah, and you can only record once, there's no erasing like in magnetic media. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Alex Sanielevici _/_/ E-Mail : sanielea@ere.umontreal.ca _/ _/ Music student, _/_/ or : alex@hypercomp.ns.ca _/ _/ University of Montreal _/_/ Voice : (514) 731-2578 _/ _/ Quebec, Canada. _/_/ http://mistral.ere.umontreal.ca:9090/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Boren's Laws: 1) When in charge, ponder; 2) When in trouble, delegate; 3) When in doubt, mumble. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 22:06:27 +0300 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Uri Bruck Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? In-Reply-To: <950718134400_117480787@aol.com> The problem with transferring information from music CD's, or any CD's to diskettes is th eproblem of storage space. CD's typicaly contain around 640 MB of information, floppies can store about 1.44 MB (actually a little less). If you look at the size of those short WAV files, you can get an idea of the amount of infromation needed to store sound. On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, list - Nick Batyko wrote: > I am sort of new here and I want to know if you can dub music compact discs > to a 3.5" floppy computer disc. Does anyone know. > > Oh, and also is there such things as blank CD's that you can record on? If > so do you have to buy a certain CD-Rom player to record on them? As to your second question. Yes, one would need to buy a special CD-ROM to record on, both CD-R (recordable) machines and media are expensive. > > Any help would be great. > > >SpiceG14@aol.com > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 15:11:20 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: John Rossi III Subject: Re: Midi File Collaberations? >QUESTIONS- > >Is it possible to upload and download midi files on the internet? If so. is >it being done, and where? And if so, is there anyone or any group of ones >actively interested in collaborating on musical compositions (for the joy >of it) in such a way.? > Yes, you can load any kind of file (access permitting) to any FTP site which will accept them. There was/is a couple of active attempts to do this sort of thing. One group was/is called netjam and somebody else can probably give you more information on it. Actually, I originated a variant of what you are suggesting (and called it netjam) about 9 years ago when I first got involved with rec.music.synth. It seemed to make complete success until we actually tried it when we were preparing for the Team Metlay _Bandwidth_ session. Nick and I played around with standard midi files for about one pass. Two things became evident rather quickly. A SMF is a nearly worthless way to communicate musical ideas. For synthesizer music, the notes are not nearly as important as the context in which they are played. We tried it again during the session with Adam's _Killing Chrome_ piece which was virtually rendered, except this time we had a complete Performer file, not just an SMF. You can ask Adam what he thought of our 'seamless' rendering of his composition. Of course, I am talking about music with unique textures, not idiomatic rock and roll. If your desire is to do conventional things with conventional instrument sounds and conventional arrangements then using SMFs and General MIDI might get you what you want. But, I think that this would not be very interesting or satisfying in that you would probably have more success doing that kind of thing with a sequencer and some music theory and harmony books. >Related question- > >Has anyone heard about the dudes from Evanston, Illinois (their names are >Canton Becker and Matt Moller) who are jamming over the internet with >people worldwide? No, at least I haven't. John 3 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 15:15:35 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Ronn Kilby Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? In a message dated 95-07-18 14:17:22 EDT, you write: >Subj: recording CD's on computer disc?? >Date: 95-07-18 14:17:22 EDT >From: SpiceG14@AOL.COM (list - Nick Batyko) >Sender: EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU (Electronic Music Discussion List) >Reply-to: EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU (Electronic Music Discussion List) >To: EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU (Multiple recipients of list EMUSIC-L) > >I am sort of new here and I want to know if you can dub music compact discs >to a 3.5" floppy computer disc. Does anyone know. > It's not quite that simple, but in a way, yes. You need soundcard and sampling software. Soundfiles at the appropriate sampling rate are huge, however. You could only fit a few seconds of one song on a floppy disk. Figure 10 megabytes of hardisk space per minute of music. >Oh, and also is there such things as blank CD's that you can record on? If >so do you have to buy a certain CD-Rom player to record on them? > >Any help would be great. You need a CD recorder (around $5000 - $8000) and blank recordable CDs (about $50 -$80 each). Other than that, piece of cake. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 16:34:40 -0200 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: damian keller Subject: Re: EMUSIC-L Digest - 9 Jul 1995 to 10 Jul 1995 In-Reply-To: <199507100500.BAA35650@atlanta.american.edu> from "Automatic digest processor" at Jul 10, 95 01:00:00 am Compositional paradigms If you take a look at Computer Music Journal you will find articles ranging from algorithmic tools for composition to any kind of technic applied to composition. Now if you are looking for more "conservative" ways to compose, serialism, set theory, etc. you should see Journal of Music Theory. Of course I do not think you will find anything by M. Davis or Brian Eno. Do they use any specific "theory" to compose?. Damian ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 00:30:51 +0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Dmitry Romakhin Subject: Re: Algorithmic Composition In-Reply-To: <9507180542.AA21374@cascade.santos.com.au> On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, Simon McGuire wrote: > Hi All, > Found a great bit of freeware the other day - an algorithmic > compositional tool called soundscape. > *** FREEWARE ???!!! *** WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD IT ???!!! *** FTP??? *** P L E A S E, let me know if anybody know an FTP/WWW for it! The biggest thanks you have ever seen In Advance, Dmitry Romakhin. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 16:30:37 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: John Rossi III Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? >record-your-own cds exist but it takes an expensive (few grand) cd recorder >to do it. the recordable cds are over $20 a pop, but at least they'll play >on regular cd players once they're written. some people offer the service >for $X for the first cd and then $x per cd thereafter. i'm gonna have one >or two made myself, just for posterity, not for profit. it's a good idea. > Actually, I have seen the Pinacle R-CD advertized for $1599 and I understand that that price could get very close to $1000 by Christmas. Also, 74 min blank CDs can be had for about $11 in quantities of one. Again, as this starts to become a common data archiving and back-up technique, so that a lot of people by R-CDs, there is no reason to believe that blank prices won't go to about $5. This has got to be driving the record companies crazy since home CD recording technology is already cheaper than DAT technology was when they had their last shit fit. This causes me to ask the question 'Is there a provision for SCMS or some other worthless anti-copy device in the R-CD spec?' If there isn't, what stops the recording industry from pulling the same shit that they did with DAT? I assume that the recorders are all Japaneese products and that the Japaneese will be more than happy to felate the recording industry again and limit availability of the technology to 'common' people. John 3 (anxiously awaiting the shoot out between Bill Gates and the music industry) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 16:36:11 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: John Rossi III Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? > >You need a CD recorder (around $5000 - $8000) and blank recordable CDs (about >$50 -$80 each). >Other than that, piece of cake. > > What planet have you been living on? R-CD prices have been under $2500 for over a year now. Recordable CDs have been under $15 for the same period. See my other post in this thread. John 3 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 01:15:55 +0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Dmitry Romakhin Subject: Re: Midi File Collaberations? In-Reply-To: <199507181709.NAA17350@river.biddeford.com> On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, Gus Alden wrote: > QUESTIONS- > > Is it possible to upload and download midi files on the internet? If so. is > it being done, and where? Posting you one file, don't remember, where I had got it. Music FTP sites (specialty/mailing lists) The sites that were removed from this list are now mirrored here on ftp.uwp.edu in /pub/music/lists send additions to ftp@ftp.uwp.edu artist site:/directory --------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- anime ics.uci.edu:/incoming/anime/misc (128.195.1.1.) anime piggy.ucsb.edu:/pub/anime/misc (128.111.72.50) anime wpi.wpi.edu:/anime/Scripts (130.215.24.1) beatles bobcat.bbn.com:/beatles celtic stuff celtic.stanford.edu gabriel peter casbah.acns.nwu.edu:/pub/gabriel (129.105.16.52) hendryx jimi f.ms.uky.edu:/pub/misc/hey-joe (128.163.128.6) janes addiction f.ms.uky.edu:/pub/misc/janes-addiction (128.163.128.6) pink.floyd syrinx.umd.edu rush syrinx.umd.edu jammin.nosc.mil 128.49.17.163 Reggae Archives: faq, lyrics, picture files sound files, radioshows, clubs, patois dictionary athena.sdsu.edu sounds of all sorts Internet Underground Music Archive site.unc.edu:/pub/electronic-publications/IUMA techno.stanford.edu FTP or Gopher. techno, rave, ambient info & archives. The following site listing that follows was copied from saffron.inset.com Name IP# What ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ccb.ucsf.edu 128.218.1.13 (.snd), players. directory: Pub/Sound_list garbo.uwasa.fi 128.214.87.1 (.stm), players ems.media.mit.edu 18.85.0.104 csound archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound 128.100.160.26 (The Gravis Ultrasound FTP site) ftp.brad.ac.uk 143.53.2.5 misc/mods incoming/mods ftp.comlab.ox.ac.uk 192.76.52.2 Documents/sound (au files) ftp.ee.lbl.gov 128.3.112.20 sounds (au files) directory: sound/*.au ftp.uwp.edu pub/msdos/proaudio (Pro Audio Spectrum FTP site) sciences.sdsu.edu 130.191.224.2 sounds snake.mcs.kent.edu 131.123.2.222 SoundBlaster & Adlib stuff directory: pub/SB-Adlib sumex-aim.stanford.edu (.snd) files terminator.cc.umich.edu 141.211.164.8 sounds and misc archive site ucsd.edu 128.54.16.1 sounds for sparc uop.uop.edu 138.9.200.1 Modplay xanth.cs.odu.edu 128.82.8.1 startrek sounds dir: pub/star-trek/stsounds. HTH, Dmitry Romakhin ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 01:39:10 +0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Dmitry Romakhin Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? In-Reply-To: <199507182030.QAA15181@falcon.bgsu.edu> On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, John Rossi III wrote: > won't go to about $5. This has got to be driving the record companies crazy Even if 20$, that is the best Megabytes per dollar value. Compare it with floppies! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 10:29:31 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Re: EMUSIC-L Digest - 9 Jul 1995 to 10 Jul 1995 Hi algorithmic composers, with all this talk of algorithmic composition, try this: There's an algorithmic composition mailing list (which I know some people here are on, so I'm surprised no one has menitoned it so far). Mail to majordomo@serial.music.uiowa.edu (no subject required) with the body of the message saying subscribe algo-comp (I hope this is right because the list has recently moved machines, so I hope that the majordomo has migrated with it.) Mail to the list should be sent to: algo-comp@serial.music.uiowa.edu I suppose that if you have trouble signing up, you could write to the list explaining this and ask someone to mail you privately about how to do it. (Just in case you're wondering why I'm being a bit vague about subscribing, I subscribed before the move so I've not had to sub to this new address.) Hope this helps, David Rodger musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 22:00:00 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Gus Alden Subject: Re: Midi File Collaberations? >>QUESTIONS- >> >>Is it possible to upload and download midi files on the internet? If so. is >>it being done, and where? And if so, is there anyone or any group of ones >>actively interested in collaborating on musical compositions (for the joy >>of it) in such a way.? >> > >Yes, you can load any kind of file (access permitting) to any FTP site which >will accept them. There was/is a couple of active attempts to do this sort >of thing. One group was/is called netjam and somebody else can probably >give you more information on it. Actually, I originated a variant of what >you are suggesting (and called it netjam) about 9 years ago... >.....Two things became evident rather quickly. A SMF is a nearly >worthless way to communicate musical ideas. For synthesizer music, the >notes are not nearly as important as the context in which they are played..... > Of course, I am talking about music with unique textures, not idiomatic rock >>and roll. If your desire is to do conventional things with conventional >instrument sounds and conventional arrangements then using SMFs and General >MIDI >might get you what you want................ Or John, theoretically anyway, if 2 people were using the same synth, a composition could be tossed back and forth as an SMF, and nothing would be lost in the translation, couldn't it? --------------- Gus Alden aldenoob@biddeford.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 23:17:28 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: John Rossi III Subject: Re: Midi File Collaberations? > >Or John, theoretically anyway, if 2 people were using the same synth, a >composition could be tossed back and forth as an SMF, and nothing would be >lost in the translation, couldn't it? > My first inclination would be to say that you are correct. Some text file would need to be exchanged which allowed any patches used to be duplicated. I suppose that if you want to extend the theoretical situation to two K2000s you could exchange patch and sample data, and you would be working in a powerful enough system so that you would be limited only by a 24-voice architecture, you could do this. While I think this is fine in theory, it does require that the people exchanging the files have identical sound generating and sound modifying equipment. I'm not sure how practical this is, however, for extension to general application. For example, when we did _Bandwidth_ there was quite a lot of duplication of equipment among the members (I mean the 3 Xpanders and a Matrix-12 at the same session has got to be some kind of record). Even so, we did not get the concept to work. Today, the band has doubled in size and I think that we have taken, more or less, independent routes. So, for example, several of the members may share a piece of equipment (William and me with sampling K2000s, or Nick and me with uWaves and Wavestations) the fact still remains that in either of those two comparisons, the non-overlap in equipment is much greater than the overlap. So, even if, say, Nick was to send me a SMF and text files (or raw patch files) for the uW and/or WS, I could hear what he did. If I wanted to add K2000, which would make sense since there are limits to how much WS or uW one might want in a piece, Nick wouldn't be able to hear what I had added. This was what I was trying to get accross in my earlier post and this is the problem you have in a netjam kind of environment. Now, if you had a K2000 (or similarly powerful and popular synth), and this synth had a vocal and creative usergroup on the internet, you might be able to do something useful. Otherwise, I think that, while it has an intellectual-music ring to it, it will probably be more frustrating than what it is worth. John 3 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 02:23:38 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Ronn Kilby Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? In a message dated 95-07-18 17:41:52 EDT, you write: >What planet have you been living on? R-CD prices have been under $2500 for >over a year now. Recordable CDs have been under $15 for the same period. >See my other post in this thread. > >John 3 > > Earth. I think the point is it's outa the guy's price range. Sorry I wasn't up to date on the figures. Good thing you noticed -- hate for him to abandon hope based on my error. . ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 15:53:10 -0600 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Simon McGuire Subject: FTP'ing Soundscape Soundscape can be downloaded from ftp.cs.ruu.nl in th /pub/MIDI/PROGRAMS/MSWINDOWS directory Simon ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 02:55:01 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Travis Pollard <73553.1146@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? >Oh, and also is there such things as blank CD's that you can record on? If >so do you have to buy a certain CD-Rom player to record on them? > >Any help would be great. >>You need a CD recorder (around $5000 - $8000) and blank recordable CDs (about >>$50 -$80 each). >>Other than that, piece of cake. I've heard and read that Recordable CD-ROMS prices are going down. I believe I've seen one for around $1000. Just giving my 2 cents. Correct me if I'm wrong. Travis ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 02:55:03 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Travis Pollard <73553.1146@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: +Postage Due+Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? >>On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, John Rossi III wrote: > won't go to about $5. This has got to be driving the record companies crazy >>Even if 20$, that is the best Megabytes per dollar value. Compare it with >>floppies! At a software specialty store, floppy's are about .80 a meg, right? That's really cheap per meg. I was also thinking back to a couple years ago, when one day I thought I would get and CD-ROM that I didn't like, delete it, put some of my hard drive on the CD and have more hard drive space. Boy was I wrong. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:08:22 GMT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Linda Fraser Subject: Information Can anyone tell me if there are mailing lists for specific bands, for example Black Dog or Autechre? Linda U.K. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 09:06:58 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City Subject: Re: Midi File Collaberations? In-Reply-To: <199507190317.XAA28672@falcon.bgsu.edu> from "John Rossi III" at Jul 18, 95 11:17:28 pm John Rossi III writes-- >> >>Or John, theoretically anyway, if 2 people were using the same synth, a >>composition could be tossed back and forth as an SMF, and nothing would be >>lost in the translation, couldn't it? >> > >My first inclination would be to say that you are correct. Some text file >would need to be exchanged which allowed any patches used to be duplicated. >I suppose that if you want to extend the theoretical situation to two K2000s >you could exchange patch and sample data, and you would be working in a >powerful enough system so that you would be limited only by a 24-voice >architecture, you could do this. While I think this is fine in theory, it >does require that the people exchanging the files have identical sound >generating and sound modifying equipment. I'm not sure how practical this >is, however, for extension to general application. For example, when we did >_Bandwidth_ there was quite a lot of duplication of equipment among the >members (I mean the 3 Xpanders and a Matrix-12 at the same session has got >to be some kind of record). Even so, we did not get the concept to work. There is a tendency to place part of this blame on a need to add to the song as it originally was written, but I will agree that our first attempt was to get it to sound exactly like it did on the tape Adam sent us, with little success. There were enough uniquenesses in his rig that made our remix a not-very-convincing copy, alas.... >[...] This was what I was trying to get accross in my earlier post and >this is the problem you have in a netjam kind of environment. Now, if you >had a K2000 (or similarly powerful and popular synth), and this synth had a >vocal and creative usergroup on the internet, you might be able to do >something useful. Otherwise, I think that, while it has an >intellectual-music ring to it, it will probably be more frustrating than >what it is worth. I would tend to agree. However, this doesn't stop us from taking the exact opposite route: seeing how badly one can BREAK a SMF by switching the gear! Joe and I did this on a Net collaboration called "A Chain of Whispers" some years ago, and the Team is kicking around an extension of this concept for its next album: creating a SMF and sending it out to all the band members and asking them to mangle it creatively. But that's not what I think Gus was originally interested in here.... mike -- x0xb0x (pronounced "zox-box"): any Roland device with 'x0x' in its name, as in SH-101, TB-303, TR-808, etc. This term may be descriptive or derogatory. ========================================================================== Mike Metlay ~ ATOMIC CITY ~ P. O. 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Please tell where. -- _______ KB7PWD - now on packet! shawn.rutledge@asu.edu (_ | |_) html: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~rutledge/home.html __) | | \__________________________________________________________________ * ARS * capitalism * techno * SunSparc * mad science * packet * robotics * ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 20:31:39 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Travis Pollard <73553.1146@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? I've heard and read that Recordable CD-ROMS prices are going down. I believe I've seen one for around $1000. >Please tell where. >-- > _______ KB7PWD - now on packet! shawn.rutledge@asu.edu > (_ | |_) html: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~rutledge/home.html >__) | | >\__________________________________________________________________ >* ARS * capitalism * techno * SunSparc * mad science * packet * robotics * Sorry, but the only catalog I have has a 2x Recordable for $1949.99. Not close to $1000... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 22:15:20 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Chris Theodore Subject: To Demag or not to Demag? I'm very confused. The manual for my Tascam 424 (4-track) states that the heads should be degaussed every x hours (can't remember the exact number). But... I have heard from other sources (all reputable, and in the audio tech. industry) That it "isn't really necessary". What gives? This all started when I inquired about which brand of wand demagnetizer works best. So...do I need to demagnetize the heads or not? And if so, who makes a good demagnetizer? - Chris theodorec@vaxvmsx.babson.edu------------------------------ITSD Help Desk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 19:17:42 GMT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Thomas Jerome Newton Organization: Klaustrophonia Subject: Re: Information Linda Fraser writes: > Can anyone tell me if there are mailing lists for specific bands, for > example Black Dog or Autechre? Hi Linda! I'm not sure about specifics, but you could do much worse than join the ambient list at hyperreal. Discussion on these 2 bands is pretty commonplace. Here's the subscription section from their 'welcome' letter: NEW SUBSCRIPTIONS___________________________________________________ If you haven't already subscribed to the list, you can join by sending mail to ambient-request@hyperreal.com and putting "subscribe" in the body of the message. Hyperreal also have an excellent Website at: http://hyperreal.com/ambient See you there! Newtz -- _________________________________________________________________________ _____/ __ \ ___/ // / / // )| / __\ \ \ / - thomasjeromenewton - / / // / / / L- -__ l| / \ / / ) \/ \ \ \// / / / /.\/\/. \-'\ / / \/ /\ "/ newty@newty.demon.co.uk \_// / / / \_/| \__/ _/ / " / /\__/ /// / / / ( |_ / / zu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 22:59:38 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: John Rossi III Subject: Re: To Demag or not to Demag? > >So...do I need to demagnetize the heads or not? And if so, who makes a >good demagnetizer? > I demagnetize about once a month. That may be overkill for how long I use my analog recorders. You can not over-demagnetize but you can overclean. Any wand degausser should work (basically all they are is an electromagnet on a flexible arm. I think I got mine at Radio Shack. John 3 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 23:05:06 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: list - Nick Batyko Subject: band list Would anyone know of any lists that deal with 90's rock/ alternative or rap. Thanks You!! >SpiceG14@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 23:26:51 PDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Jose M. Sanchez" Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? On Tue, 18 Jul 1995 16:30:37 -0400 John Rossi III wrote: >> > >Actually, I have seen the Pinacle R-CD advertized for $1599 and I understand >that that price could get very close to $1000 by Christmas. Also, 74 min >blank CDs can be had for about $11 in quantities of one. Again, as this >starts to become a common data archiving and back-up technique, so that a >lot of people by R-CDs, there is no reason to believe that blank prices >won't go to about $5. This has got to be driving the record companies crazy >since home CD recording technology is already cheaper than DAT technology >was when they had their last shit fit. This causes me to ask the question >'Is there a provision for SCMS or some other worthless anti-copy device in >the R-CD spec?' If there isn't, what stops the recording industry from >pulling the same shit that they did with DAT? I assume that the recorders >are all Japaneese products and that the Japaneese will be more than happy to >felate the recording industry again and limit availability of the technology >to 'common' people. > >John 3 (anxiously awaiting the shoot out between Bill Gates and the music > industry) The Pinnacle RCD drives are flawed... One: the memory buffer for writing is too small for all but the fastest PC's... Two: the (otherwise good) recording software bundled with the disks produces non-standard (non-iso) images/recordings. The result is that many CD-PLAYERS will reject the recorded CD. The response I got from the company on this issue was: 1) Oh it's just the blanks you used... (not the case at all) 2) Yelling from the President of the firm... (I spoke to him after many problems talking to anyone intelligent...) 3) Oh... yeah, I guess that's true... well, it's not our fault... Don't bother... -JMS ------------------------------------- Name: Net Results, Inc. E-mail: nresults@clark.net (Net Results, Inc.) Date: 04/03/95 Time: 19:20:20 ------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 10:11:38 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "william.b.fox" Subject: Re: To Demag or not to Demag? John 3 on analog recorder maintenance: > I demagnetize about once a month. That may be overkill for how long I use > my analog recorders. You can not over-demagnetize but you can overclean. > Any wand degausser should work (basically all they are is an electromagnet > on a flexible arm. I think I got mine at Radio Shack. I agree with John's comments on demagnetizers. I'd like to add that a rubber coated tip can save you from scratching your heads by accident. But John, I never head about over cleaning being a problem. Please discuss the details of this in depth. I clean my machine before every session. Is that too much? Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 16:31:06 BST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Andy Farnell Subject: Re: [midi2text FAQ] In-Reply-To: <199507111435.PAA27864@athena.bournemouth.ac.uk>; from "Andy Farnell" at Jul 11, 95 3:35 pm Sorry this is FAQ again but I still haven't found any useful info. I need a midi -> text convertor, to convert midi files into a useful text format. Ideally it translates SMF into a text list of events. All the best andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andy Farnell, Audio Signals Research Computing and Cognition Dept. Applied Computing & Electronics # # BOURNEMOUTH Bournemouth University # UNIVERSITY Janet: afarnell@uk.ac.bmth World: afarnell@bournemouth.ac.uk Voice: (01202) 595073 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 11:50:37 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: list - Nick Batyko Subject: Professional Studio Cassttes?? I've heard about these "professional studio cassettes" that you can't find in local stores. Where can you find them. I looked in a few DJ catalogs but those don't have them. Can anyone help me out here? Thanks You!! SpiceG14 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 11:18:05 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "william.b.fox" Subject: Re: Cancelling vocals A while ago, I said: > Edward Plant said: > > If you want to experiment, just hook up > > the speakers as you normally would, but reverse the +/- terminals on one > > channel. > > Won't work unless the speakers are identical and can occupy the same > space at the same time. To which Pete Schoenhoff replied: > They can if they are one speaker: Take the two speaker wires on > a speaker. Fork both of them in half, so that it looks like four leads. > Then take the two forks of lead #1, and plug them into > Left positive and > Right negative. > Now take the two forks of lead #2, and plug them into > Right positive and > Left negative. > The mix will be in mono, but anything recorded with equal volume > (loudness) and equal phase (direction) should cancel nicely. I think that this will blow most amplifiers' output stage. The negative terminals are all too commonly ground so you'll just be shorting out the outputs in many cases. Rarely are the outputs true in a true floating configuration. In this (rare) case, your scheme may work but I still think that the amp would complain. Bill Fox ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 09:50:24 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Shawn T. Rutledge" Subject: Re: Cancelling vocals In-Reply-To: <9507201518.AA15747@acropolis> from "william.b.fox" at Jul 20, 95 11:18:05 am > > (loudness) and equal phase (direction) should cancel nicely. > > I think that this will blow most amplifiers' output stage. The negative > terminals are all too commonly ground so you'll just be shorting out the You could try a dual voice coil subwoofer, but the frequency response won't be too great :-) -- _______ KB7PWD - now on packet! shawn.rutledge@asu.edu (_ | |_) html: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~rutledge/home.html __) | | \__________________________________________________________________ * cyberspace * IEEE * PIC * SunSparc * techno * fusion * Internet * robotics * ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 15:12:40 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: NEC_CEELY@FLO.ORG Subject: Re: Compact Discs of Electronic Music KEEP ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST/ BYE BOB CEELY ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 08:52:17 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Neal Sievwright Subject: Re[2]: [midi2text FAQ] What you need is a sequencer which has a midi event listing. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [midi2text FAQ] Author: Electronic Music Discussion List at smtpgwy Date: 7/21/95 2:22 AM Sorry this is FAQ again but I still haven't found any useful info. I need a midi -> text convertor, to convert midi files into a useful text format. Ideally it translates SMF into a text list of events. All the best andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andy Farnell, Audio Signals Research Computing and Cognition Dept. Applied Computing & Electronics # # BOURNEMOUTH Bournemouth University # UNIVERSITY Janet: afarnell@uk.ac.bmth World: afarnell@bournemouth.ac.uk Voice: (01202) 595073 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 17:45:43 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: JESQUIVE@ULVACS.ULAVERNE.EDU Subject: Re: Deep Forest's Chocolate Box Hey funnyman who ripped on the one-hit wonders of the world. You were dead on with some of your jabs and punches,****but**** you threw a serious low blow when you mention PRINCE in the same breath with the others. Prince has musical talent that precedes that of many of his contemporaries. Maybe his stuff doesn't sell like it used to, but it sure still is damn goood if not better than what you hear from others. At least he doesn't resort to ripping off everybody elses talents (...like Michael Jackson does!) and then trying to make his statue shine. By the way, I would love to see someone do a video that sends a fighter jet around that stupid self-indulgent Michael Jackson statue and blow it up to little pieces....HEEA, HEEU!! I'm OUT! C-ya! ****P.S.**** Can somebody respond to this quickly because I'm not sure if my e-mail is going out. Much thanx for those that respond. *** "PEACE-2-U," *** fm/JEWELZ *** e-mail to: "JESQUIVE@ULVACS.ULAVERNE.EDU." *** ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 11:08:43 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: clive@PELICAN.DBE.CSIRO.AU Subject: Re: To Demag or not to Demag? Chris wrote-- [SNIP]> >So...do I need to demagnetize the heads or not? And if so, who makes a >good demagnetizer? > I demag before each session (overkill but that's not a problem). Demagnetisers are cheap, and it only takes a few seconds. I also check the heads for dirt: if they need it, I clean them with isopropyl alcohol. The rubber capstan/pinch rollers I clean with saliva (yes, saliva) when they need it. Haven't had a head problem for years (and neither has the 4 track...). Regards Clive Clive McFarland CSIRO Australia clive@pelican.dbe.csiro.au ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 15:10:46 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Re: To Demag or not to Demag? Hi Clive and other demaggers, > rubber capstan/pinch rollers I clean with saliva (yes, saliva) Interesting, and cheap. For years and years, no one has been able to give me a straight answer about whether certain alcohols or treatments damage rubber or not, but I admit to getting a little nervous when the s**t changed from oxide colour to black while I was cleaning my Nakamichi's pinch rollers! Regards, David musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:40:54 -0600 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Simon McGuire Subject: Grooves and loops OK heres a dumb question. I realise that this may be a trade secret but could some kind soul enloghten me as to the following... If one has a rythym loop on a sampler how does one sync up a drum machine groove to go along with it to beef it up. No matter how close the tempo is it is sure to go out of sync. Or does one trigger the drum machine every time the loop repeats. I am aware that there is a whole genre of music out there that somehow manages to achieve the above. I WANT IN!!!!!!!!! Simeon McGlure ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 03:37:59 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Deved Smith Subject: Re: Grooves and loops In a message dated 95-07-21 03:34:51 EDT, you write: >No matter how close the tempo >is it is sure to go out of sync. Or does one trigger the drum machine every >time the loop repeats. Re-triggering is the best method by far, especially with an 8 bar, or longer, loop. I do dance club remixes and this works great. You can even break up an awsome riff by using the loop in short bursts as though it were one of the instruments in the "beef". It's a great sound when done right. DevedS2@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 17:08:46 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: clive@PELICAN.DBE.CSIRO.AU Subject: Re: To Demag or not to Demag? David wrote-- [SNIP] For years and years, no one has been able to give >me a straight answer about whether certain alcohols or treatments damage >rubber or not, Hi David Depends on the rubber and the alcohol (now where have I heard that before..) but the general answer appears to be yes they do. As for saliva, depends on what you've been drinking I guess. Regards Clive Clive McFarland CSIRO Australia clive@pelican.dbe.csiro.au ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 04:50:40 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Sean Wolfe Subject: Re: Grooves and loops The Best thing that I believe to do... Instead of looping the sample... Retrigger it... And keep the drum machine rolling... there's a few milliseconds of pause sometimes in the sample.. But If you work with it long enough... It should sound good.. the slight pause might even make it sound more defined.. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 10:17:04 GMT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Chris Bell Subject: Akai S01 Hello, Here's a question from a new subscriber. I have an Akai S01 and I was wondering if there was any PD software anyone has found that can upload and download samples to it. I really want something that will let me mix, fade, trim and other fancy stuff but that would be expecting too much. I got this Pro-Ex software with it and it was the worst piece of shit I've ever seen (to warn any potential buyers). If I had some s/w to read and write samples then I would write my own sample editor (and release it on PD). I have an Atari ST but am soon upgrading to a PC so if anyone knows of any software for either, that does standard midi sample dumps, then I would be very interested. Chris Bell P.S. If there's been any other discussions on the S01 previously I would be interested to read them, but how and where? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 00:54:29 +0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Dmitry Romakhin Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? In-Reply-To: On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: > > Two: the (otherwise good) recording software bundled with the > disks produces non-standard (non-iso) images/recordings. The > result is that many CD-PLAYERS will reject the recorded CD. ^^^\ |_ But not every! I used a few recorded cds and they worked fine on any player. I wonder, if it is true that there exists a CD-recorders that can write both music cds and software ones? Romakhin Dmitry > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 00:49:18 +0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Dmitry Romakhin Subject: Re: [midi2text FAQ] In-Reply-To: <199507201531.QAA29179@athena.bournemouth.ac.uk> On Thu, 20 Jul 1995, Andy Farnell wrote: > Sorry this is FAQ again but I still haven't found any useful info. > > I need a midi -> text convertor, to convert midi files into a useful > text format. > > Ideally it translates SMF into a text list of events. > > All the best > andy Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey!!! I remember there was such a tool at SimTel collection, subdir sounds/, I guess... I'm awfully sorry, I don't remember a correct name... Try sounds/, musuc/, etc. If you do not know: SimTel is on Oak.Oakland.Edu, and is mirrored somewhere else. HTH, Dmitry Romakhin ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 11:15:44 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Angie Revis Subject: Re: Demag/Pinch Rollers In-Reply-To: <01HT4X2KF8849BVEL3@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU> > whether certain alcohols or treatments damage rubber or not I feel that head cleaners do dry out pinch rollers. I have seen special cleaners for rollers, so perhaps you should give those a try. A. Revis ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 09:54:34 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Lorne Hammond Subject: Re: Akai S01 In-Reply-To: <11693.9507211017@stroud.psygnosis.co.uk> Sure there is, but shareware is clumsy & slow. I think it is call sdxsend and I am fairly sure that Piet's www page on synths in the netherlands has it. Search the web for synth and look for the utrecht page with the country code .nl. There is also a page in new Zealand on samplers, and you can search for samplers for that one. Best commercial PC bet: samplevision for windows from turtle beach, Leigh's Computers quoted me $159US. There is a DOS version around $99, but it may not do the S01. P.S. don't ever let the disk drive die, trade before that happens. I am looking at $200 to repair a 9 year old sampler's drive. Akai is good at keeping parts available, but they never lower costs, even on old gear. On the other hand, I think I'd rather fix the old than buy new, given all the hardware outs. The same value new is $2000+. Anyone got an akai s900 for parts (good drive?) or a Mitsumi D357 720k drive (factory modified I think)? Or advice on this problem? lorne lhammond@sol.uvic.ca ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 19:33:49 +0000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Christoffer Bejling Subject: Re: Akai S01 > Anyone got an akai s900 for parts (good drive?) > > lorne > lhammond@sol.uvic.ca I think You can use an ordinary pc drive! At least that''s what a friend did. -CB :::::::::::::: : : : : : : : : : : ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:50:24 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Dustin McIntyre Subject: Re: Grooves and loops >>OK heres a dumb question. I realise that this may be a trade secret but could some kind soul enloghten me as to the following... If one has a rythym loop on a sampler how does one sync up a drum machine groove to go along with it to beef it up. No matter how close the tempo is it is sure to go out of sync. Or does one trigger the drum machine every time the loop repeats. I am aware that there is a whole genre of music out there that somehow manages to achieve the above. I WANT IN!!!!!!!!!<< Well , the easiest way is to record the pattern that the drum machine is playing into your sequencer and have the sequencer playing both it AND the repeats (however many bars in length) of the sampled rhythm loop. DFM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:57:45 -0600 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Randy Cole Subject: Re: Deep Forest's Chocolate Box -Reply To play the Devil's Advocate...you say this: > Prince has musical talent that precedes that of many of his >contemporaries. Maybe his stuff doesn't sell like it used to, but it sure >still is damn goood if not better than what you hear from others. >At least he doesn't resort to ripping off everybody elses talents >(...like Michael Jackson does!) and then trying to make his statue shine. What do you mean by the Michael Jackson is a thief line? I'm not a big MJ conniseur so I can't understand WHERE he steals from...please splain with examples of songs that aren't really 100% his... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 17:58:10 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: john rossi Subject: Re: To Demag or not to Demag? In-Reply-To: <9507201411.AA15372@acropolis> On Thu, 20 Jul 1995, william.b.fox wrote: > John 3 on analog recorder maintenance: > > I agree with John's comments on demagnetizers. I'd like to add that a > rubber coated tip can save you from scratching your heads by accident. > But John, I never head about over cleaning being a problem. Please > discuss the details of this in depth. I clean my machine before every > session. Is that too much? > Cleaning before each session is a good idea. You should use a lubricating head cleaner made specifically for the purpose. It is possible to clean heads too frequently because all head cleaners have solvents in them, even if it is somne mild solvent like isopropanol or ethanol. Overuse can disolve varnishes around the head gaps. Also, most solvents will dry-out piunch rollers. John 3 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 18:10:42 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: john rossi Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? In-Reply-To: On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Dmitry Romakhin wrote: > > I wonder, if it is true that there exists a CD-recorders that can write > both music cds and software ones? > Yes, most of those $1900 R-CDs will record in audio, data and mixed formats. John 3 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 21:40:09 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? Hi CD-R fans... Romakhin wrote > I wonder, if it is true that there exists a CD-recorders that can write > both music cds and software ones? Look up the last year or so of Mix magazine=4WQx if you can get your hands on it. They've had heaps on multi-format CDs and the various approaches to writing them. In the 'Audio and Multimedia' and 'Tape and Disc' sections is where you'll find information. Regards David Rodger, | Fax: +61-3-9479-3651 (mark "ATT.: David Rodger") Music Department, | E-mail: musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au School of Art and Media, | La Trobe University | "It was a boot failure ... Bundoora VIC 3083 | commonly called getting your feet wet!" Australia | -- Chris Lai ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 21:49:21 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Re: Deep Forest's Chocolate Box -Reply HI Prince devotees and Jacko derogateurs, did this thread start with a conversation about Deep Forest's new album? I saw an ad today for it and (surprise, surprise) who're they ripping off this time? Bulgarian choirs and Tibetan monks! For my opinions on this and an interesting musicological and ethical debate on such sampling, cast your minds back to a few months ago when quite a few of us talked about it. I can dig out the interview with Deep Forest if you want and show you what cultural appropriation means! Regards, David musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 10:35:02 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: Midi File Collaberations? In-Reply-To: <199507190317.XAA28672@falcon.bgsu.edu> from "John Rossi III" at Jul 18, 95 11:17:28 pm > > > > >Or John, theoretically anyway, if 2 people were using the same synth, a > >composition could be tossed back and forth as an SMF, and nothing would be > >lost in the translation, couldn't it? > > > > My first inclination would be to say that you are correct. Some text file > would need to be exchanged which allowed any patches used to be duplicated. > I suppose that if you want to extend the theoretical situation to two K2000s > you could exchange patch and sample data, and you would be working in a > powerful enough system so that you would be limited only by a 24-voice > architecture, you could do this. While I think this is fine in theory, it > does require that the people exchanging the files have identical sound > generating and sound modifying equipment. I've done it with VFX sequence files. Works fine, as long as the patches are sent along and both ends use exactly the same equipment. --- Joe M. > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 01:54:06 +0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Dmitry Romakhin Subject: Re: Deep Forest's Chocolate Box -Reply In-Reply-To: <01HT6P99XWQW9BVFKJ@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU> On Sat, 22 Jul 1995, David Rodger wrote: > > I can dig out the interview with Deep Forest if you want and show you what > cultural appropriation means! ^^|^^^^^^^^^ | i do want it! please... I | I I Dmitry Romakhin | Dmitry@alpha.ksu.ras.ru I A great Deep Forest fan I_____________________|__________________________I ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 19:35:27 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Travis Pollard <73553.1146@COMPUSERVE.COM> I was looking for a decent keyboard to hook up to my computer. What can I get for $500? I really don't want to go over $1000. What can I get for that much? What will the keyboard be able to do? Thanks for all your help. Travis ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 20:13:12 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Matthew W. Tanquary" Subject: Re: No Subject You want the Alesis Quadra-Synth keyboard...it does EVERYTHING you could possibly ask for in that price range....as long as you have your own sequencer...for the price, NOTHING is better! For full details I suggest you email them at ALECORP@alesis1.usa.com. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 20:29:51 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Gus Alden Subject: Re: Midi File Collaberations? >> >> > >> >Or John, theoretically anyway, if 2 people were using the same synth, a >> >composition could be tossed back and forth as an SMF, and nothing would be >> >lost in the translation, couldn't it? >> My first inclination would be to say that you are correct. Some text file >> would need to be exchanged which allowed any patches used to be duplicated. >> I suppose that if you want to extend the theoretical situation to two K2000s >> you could exchange patch and sample data, and you would be working in a >> powerful enough system so that you would be limited only by a 24-voice >> architecture, you could do this. While I think this is fine in theory, it >> does require that the people exchanging the files have identical sound >> generating and sound modifying equipment. >I've done it with VFX sequence files. Works fine, as long as the patches are >sent along and both ends use exactly the same equipment. Ok, John, so now I've got to ask you, what is a VFX file. And by the way, while we're back on the subject, how does one go about uploading and downloading midi files anyway? Do I have to buy Stuffit Deluxe, or is there some ShareWare out there somewhere that will do the trick? --------------- Gus Alden aldenoob@biddeford.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 21:40:13 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Phillips/Healy Subject: Re: Midi File Collaberations? see, oh, el, el, aye, bee, OH, are, aye, tea, eye, oh, en Just in that kind 'o mood, John ............................................................................ ................................. John J.H. Phillips, Carolyn Healy -TerraGizmo Studios - Philadelphia, PA. USA jpch@pobox.upenn.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 22:19:46 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Ronn Kilby Subject: Re: Midi File Collaberations? In a message dated 95-07-22 21:50:27 EDT, you write: >see, oh, el, el, aye, bee, OH, are, aye, tea, eye, oh, en > >Just in that kind 'o mood, > >John > > I'm with you John. Every time I see that message thread, I think of Clabber, which is not a pleasant thing. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 03:15:18 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Dustin McIntyre Subject: Re: Deep Forest's Chocolate Box >>Hey funnyman who ripped on the one-hit wonders of the world. You were dead on with some of your jabs and punches, ****but****you threw a serious low blow when you mention PRINCE in the same breath with the others. Prince has musical talent that precedes that of many of his contemporaries. Maybe his stuff doesn't sell like it used to, but it sure still is damn goood if not better than what you hear from others. At least he doesn't resort to ripping off everybody elses talents (...like Michael Jackson does!) and then trying to make his statue shine.<< Well, I feel exactly as you do about poor, pathetic Michael, but that doesn't change the fact that Prince has been coasting ever since 'Lovesexy.' My jab was not meant as a superficial one based solely on sales and mass appeal, but as an artistic one from someone who used to be in love with his melodic sense and funky style. You're very right about him not belonging in with the one hit wonders, but I'm afraid "My Name Is Prince" is just as bad as any of Michael Jackson's crotch-grabbing histrionics or attempts at false bravado. Sorry but dreck is dreck (which isn't to say there there aren't tons of artists guilty of the same thing..).. DFM ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 17:40:52 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Neal Sievwright Subject: Re[2]: Akai S01 I'm going to have a look in my archives for a tech sheet on this drive for you, as any drive should be able to be used with the correct settings. Neal Sievwright sievwrn@agric.nsw.gov.au >From the Downunder (other) side of the World - aaargh !!!!! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Akai S01 Author: Electronic Music Discussion List at smtpgwy Date: 7/22/95 3:52 AM Sure there is, but shareware is clumsy & slow. I think it is call sdxsend and I am fairly sure that Piet's www page on synths in the netherlands has it. Search the web for synth and look for the utrecht page with the country code .nl. There is also a page in new Zealand on samplers, and you can search for samplers for that one. Best commercial PC bet: samplevision for windows from turtle beach, Leigh's Computers quoted me $159US. There is a DOS version around $99, but it may not do the S01. P.S. don't ever let the disk drive die, trade before that happens. I am looking at $200 to repair a 9 year old sampler's drive. Akai is good at keeping parts available, but they never lower costs, even on old gear. On the other hand, I think I'd rather fix the old than buy new, given all the hardware outs. The same value new is $2000+. Anyone got an akai s900 for parts (good drive?) or a Mitsumi D357 720k drive (factory modified I think)? Or advice on this problem? lorne lhammond@sol.uvic.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 03:59:39 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Steve F." Subject: Re: Deep Forest's Chocolate Box Prince has serious musical talent and he always has. I'm 25 years old and I grew up with 1999 and Purple Rain. Personally I don't like most of what he's done in the future as of now and probably never will. He is an excellent songwriter and I can't wait til 1999, that song will be played all the time if I'm not mistaken. -Steve ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 07:27:51 PDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Jose M. Sanchez" Subject: Re: recording CD's on computer disc?? Sure it's a matter of which mastering software you are using... The OEM which Pinnacle went to for the Software actually has a better package (normally bundled with other CD recorders) that has no problem creating: ISO Single session ISO Multi-session Multi-Track Music Disk Hybrid Software/Music Mac Disks Rockridge Format (only when mastered from DAT tape...) ---- Also I was referring to the RCD (2000.00) recorder that had deficient software... (it did not write full endblocks)... The Sony and Toshiba CD players reject these outright... -JMS ---------------Original Message--------------- On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: > > Two: the (otherwise good) recording software bundled with the > disks produces non-standard (non-iso) images/recordings. The > result is that many CD-PLAYERS will reject the recorded CD. ^^^\ |_ But not every! I used a few recorded cds and they worked fine on any player. I wonder, if it is true that there exists a CD-recorders that can write both music cds and software ones? Romakhin Dmitry > ----------End of Original Message---------- ------------------------------------- Name: Net Results, Inc. E-mail: nresults@clark.net (Net Results, Inc.) Date: 04/03/95 Time: 19:20:20 ------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:11:40 CET Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List Comments: Resent-From: Jacek Latanowicz Comments: Originally-From: Jacek Latanowicz From: Jacek Latanowicz Subject: Re: Dr. T's & UpBeat In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:43:00 PDT from ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- On Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:43:00 PDT Casey Dunn said: >Ronn Kilby writes: > > The address is Dr. T's Software > > 220 Boyston St., Suite 204 > > Chestnut Hill, MA 02167 > > > > (617)455-1454 > > (617)244-6954 > >I gave these nice folks a call looking for an old program >called UpBeat. This was a neato procussion-sequencing >program with probabalistic note selection. It was made >by Intelligent Music in Albany...Chadabe's little software >company. (is he still doing music?) They sold the product, >along with M, to Dr. T's. > >Anyway, it's not being sold anymore by Dr. T's software, >nor is it being supported by them. Drat. They did say that >I was free to ask `round for a copy. > >I don't need to hear that I should get Max; if there is a Max >patch that has as nice an interface I would like to hear >about it. UpBeat is a clean looking, focused program which >would run quite nicely on the spare Plus in my music pit. (Now, >it is true that I would feed it into some Max patches of my >own twisted design, but that's for another newgroup) > >soo...Does anyone have a copy, collecting dust on their bookshelf, >taking up room in the shoebox of diskettes, etc, >which they would like to sell? > >drop me a line, >dunn@intellicorp.com Hello, btw, does anybody know if there is an existing version of Dr T's KCS (keyboard controlled sequencer) for a PC ? I wouldn't mind switching from Amiga to PC but I just don't like Cubaces, Cakewalks, and other 'window-clicking-pissing me off-programs' Jacek L. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:12:17 CET Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List Comments: Resent-From: Jacek Latanowicz Comments: Originally-From: Jacek Latanowicz From: Jacek Latanowicz Subject: Re: Subject: Re: DCC and MD -vs- DAT In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:41:51 EDT from ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- On Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:41:51 EDT Tom Ritchford said: >John 3 wrote: >>On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Ernst de Moor wrote: >> >>You can not hear anything above 20KHz (apx) because of the physiological >>limitations of our hearing apparatus. Since alpha waves are very slow, >>8-13 HZ, it is absurd to think you can drive them with a stimulus your >>brain never receives because of the limitations of the transduction >>equipment it has. >> >>John 3 >> > >But... sound doesn't have to be received with the ears. >Certainly subfrequencies can be heard with the body. > > /t, not convinced though of any real information above 20KHz... Hello, because a sound is made of harmonic frequencies You need a device which will record over 20kHz to fully reproduce sounds below 20kHz. An ear will probably hear the difference if You would remove harmonics over 20kHz which are theoretically not precepted. Jacek L. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 10:48:20 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mark Hughes Subject: Re: Dr. T's & UpBeat In-Reply-To: Jacek Latanowicz "Re: Dr. T's & UpBeat" (Jul 23, 4:11pm) On Jul 23, 4:11pm, Jacek Latanowicz wrote: > I wouldn't mind switching from Amiga to PC ... I did that a few years ago. I ended up switching again to a Mac. I have to occasionally kick myself in the ass for thinking "It would be cheaper to do this on a PC". If you value your time and sanity, consider your options carefully. Mark -- frivolous line of characters: ******************************************** redundant email address: mhughes@pms104.pms.ford.com common-sense disclaimer: This is my opinion, not my employer's stupid quote: "Magnetic media? How quaint." ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 14:32:41 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Travis Pollard <73553.1146@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: Keyboard >You want the Alesis Quadra-Synth keyboard...it does EVERYTHING you could >possibly ask for in that price range....as long as you have your own >sequencer...for the price, NOTHING is better! For full details I suggest you >email them at ALECORP@alesis1.usa.com. Thanks for the advice. I'll e-mail them. When you say sequencer, do you mean something like Cakewalk or a piece of hardware? Sorry if I sound ignorant. Travis ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 07:34:28 GMT Reply-To: jetman@tunanet.com Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: jetman Organization: tunanet Subject: Re: Algorithmic Composition Comments: To: homer!AMERICAN.EDU!EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU Is Soundscape PC or Mac? I've been using M (Macintosh) an old program by Joel Chadabe and those at Intelligent Music. It isn't compatible w/ anything beyond System 7.0.1, so I've had to install a secondary system just to run it. I'd be interested in taking a look at Soundscape towards an eventual phasing out of M (really is a cool program itself). Thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:07:39 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Lorne Hammond Subject: Re: Re[2]: Akai S01 In-Reply-To: <9506238065.AA806547495@smtpgwy.agric.nsw.gov.au> On Sun, 23 Jul 1995, Neal Sievwright wrote: > I'm going to have a look in my archives for a tech sheet on this drive for you, > as any drive should be able to be used with the correct settings. > Neal Sievwright > sievwrn@agric.nsw.gov.au Much appreciated. I am batting zero on finding solutions locally and it looks like I will have to pay the price if i want it fixed properly. Lorne lhammond@sol.uvic.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 19:19:27 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Ronn Kilby Subject: Re: Dr. T's & UpBeat In a message dated 95-07-23 10:28:32 EDT, you write: > Hello, > > btw, does anybody know if there is an existing version of Dr T's >KCS (keyboard controlled sequencer) for a PC ? >I wouldn't mind switching from Amiga to PC but I just don't like >Cubaces, Cakewalks, and other 'window-clicking-pissing me off-programs' > >Jacek L. > > They have something, but it's not KCS. Give em a call at the aforementioned number. I got a flyer from them a month ago but tossed it, sorry. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 20:08:00 PDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Craig Marks Subject: Sound for picture Comments: cc: synth-l I have recently been given the opportunity to do some scoring for industrial videos -- nothing exciting low pay for short training videos -- a good start to my resume for scoring. Anyway, I need to monitor the video and sync the tape deck and sequencer to the VCR. I know that this is possible with a 3/4 in ch broadcast VCR, but I can't afford one of those. All I have to work with is my tape deck, Vision, a MOTU MIDI Time Piece II (generates smpte) and a hifi VCR. Can I stripe smpte onto a regular 1/2 inch tape, say onto one of the hifi audio channels, and use that to sync up the sequencer and deck? Any other solutions that I haven't thought of? Thanks to all for your help. As always, I don't know where I'd be without your vast pools of knowledge. Thanks-Craig