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Date:         Tue, 21 May 1996 14:53:10 GMT
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From:         "J. Rossi" <jr10@LEICESTER.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: EMUSIC-L Digest - 20 May 1996 to 21 May 1996

> I have seen the FATAR 900 advertised - does anyone know
> if they are any good ?

Provided your needs are simple, i.e. one MIDI out, basic controls, etc...
then the Fatar 900 is an excellent master keyboard that you can pick for
550 English pounds.

I bought one shortly after it was released, and never looked back. The key
action is fantastic compared to Roland A-series or Yamaha KX88.

However, sometimes I wish I had bought the 1100 for extra controls. Not the
same price though.

Francois
jr10@le.ac.uk
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Date:         Tue, 21 May 1996 10:07:52 -0700
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From:         Nathanael W Berry <nwberry@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Master Keyboards >

>From:    "Bailey, Dave W" <Dave.Bailey@NESTLEGB.NESTLE.COM>
>...
>I am currently looking for a master keyboard with the following spec :
>88 note, fully weighted Piano feel keys.  Only 1 MIDI out required.
>I have seen the FATAR 900 advertised - does anyone know if they are any
>good?
>Any other suggestions?

        Another post mentioned the Kurzweil controllers - I concur. I would
also look into the Roland A-90. In comparison with the 900, it costs more,
has significantly more features, and is quite large, but I found the action
very good. I liked the action better than the Kurzeil PC88 or any of the
Fatar controllers lying about the showroom. I currently use a Yamaha CLP-300
as my master "piano". The action is ok, about the best (IMHO) at the time I
got it. This is a consumer model and hand truck heavy, but amazingly rugged.
Yamaha later came out the the pf-85 (i think) which was all plastic and
considerably lighter. I use an MX-8 (midi processor) to create zones and
other midi tricks. I am very tempted by the A-90.

        I would like to see Kurzweil release a controller version of the
K2500X. I would like to have the sliders, ribbon controllers, quick patch
buttons, etc., without the price of the sound module (it is great, but I
have enough!) and few extra midi outs. If this new unit also had the action
of the A-90 I would buy it tomorrow ...no today!!!.

Nate
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Date:         Tue, 21 May 1996 17:33:41 CST
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From:         harry haecker <haeckerh@OSPREY.NWRC.GOV>
Subject:      Master Keyboards...A-90

>I would also look into the Roland A-90[...]I am very tempted by the
>A-90[...]If this new unit also had the action of the A-90 I would buy it
>tomorrow ...no today!!!.

>Nate

Hi...could you give me a clarification?  Do you mean an A-80 (what I have) or
has Roland come out with a new controller and my ignorance is showing through?

signed,

Perplexed in Peoria

Harry Haecker
(haeckerh@nwrc.gov)
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Date:         Wed, 22 May 1996 10:54:52 +0200
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From:         Christoph Rocholl <rocholl@OSNABRUECK.NETSURF.DE>

Hi folks,

several weeks agao, I bought a Hammond B3 in Holland together with a 147
Leslie, both origional without modifications. Does anyone has  the ultimate
tips for modification. Which speakers, which preamp, or  what else should I
change, to get a fat crunchy sound? What about Hiwatt amps used as Preamps?
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Date:         Wed, 22 May 1996 10:56:09 +0200
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From:         Christoph Rocholl <rocholl@OSNABRUECK.NETSURF.DE>
Subject:      Hammond B3 & Leslie

Hi folks,

several weeks agao, I bought a Hammond B3 in Holland together with a 147
Leslie, both origional without modifications. Does anyone has  the ultimate
tips for modification. Which speakers, which preamp, or  what else should I
change, to get a fat crunchy sound? What about Hiwatt amps as Preamps?
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Date:         Wed, 22 May 1996 16:38:54 -0700
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From:         Nathanael W Berry <nwberry@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Master Keyboards...A-90

>Hi...could you give me a clarification?  Do you mean an A-80 (what I have) or
>has Roland come out with a new controller and my ignorance is showing through?
>

        The A-90 is Roland's latest 88 key controller. It looks pretty good.
Interface is pretty straight forward, sounds are available (128 sounds, 64
voice polyphony), and non sound controller can be upgraded in the field for
a (IMO) fair price. Once the sound option is added (A-90EX) there are
optional sound expansion boards and I beleive backwards compatability SR
modules (16 voice poly).

Nate
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Date:         Thu, 23 May 1996 21:03:01 -0700
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From:         Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City <atomic@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Master Keyboards...A-90
In-Reply-To:  <1.5.4.16.19960522193938.0e872adc@popd.netcruiser> from
              "Nathanael W Berry" at May 22, 96 04:38:54 pm

Nathanael W Berry writes--
>Harry Haecker sez:
>>Hi...could you give me a clarification?  Do you mean an A-80 (what I have) or
>>has Roland come out with a new controller and my ignorance is showing through?
>
>        The A-90 is Roland's latest 88 key controller. It looks pretty good.
>Interface is pretty straight forward, sounds are available (128 sounds, 64
>voice polyphony), and non sound controller can be upgraded in the field for
>a (IMO) fair price. Once the sound option is added (A-90EX) there are
>optional sound expansion boards and I beleive backwards compatability SR
>modules (16 voice poly).

It's fascinating what a wide range of opinions there is in this
business.  I saw my first A-90 in a local music store (there's a
partial answer for you, Bill-- they have MUSIC STORES here! :) and my
first comment upon seeing it was "Yaaaggghhh!" However, after
carefully examining the front panel, I amended that to "Yeeeeeesh!"

In my opinion, it's the most abysmally ugly, confusing interface I've
seen in years. You get a proliferation of individualized controls
rather than a central menu...but the controls all look alike, are
poorly labelled, and seem to follow no logical layout that I can
fathom. Some people must like it, but I literally can't figure out
how to make anything do anything on it. Scary.

Imagine an English-translated Roland user manual as a front panel.
The mind cowers.

mike
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Date:         Thu, 23 May 1996 21:13:31 -0700
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From:         Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City <atomic@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: your mail
In-Reply-To:  <199605220854.KAA28435@osnabrueck.osnabrueck.netsurf.de> from
              "Christoph Rocholl" at May 22, 96 10:54:52 am

Christoph Rocholl writes--
>
>Hi folks,
>
>several weeks agao, I bought a Hammond B3 in Holland together with a 147
>Leslie, both origional without modifications. Does anyone has  the ultimate
>tips for modification. Which speakers, which preamp, or  what else should I
>change, to get a fat crunchy sound? What about Hiwatt amps used as Preamps?

I recommend you ask either Analogue Heaven or Synth-DIY, rather than
EMUSIC-L. We don't discuss gear mods here. You might also try the
rec.music.makers and rec.audio.pro newsgroups. Good luck!

mike

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Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 10:56:24 CST
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From:         harry haecker <haeckerh@OSPREY.NWRC.GOV>
Subject:      Re[2]: Master Keyboards...A-90

>Imagine an English-translated Roland user manual as a front panel.
>The mind cowers.

>mike

Hmm.  I was thinking of checking it out and maybe upgrading, but it sounds like
Roland still hasn't figured out how to come up with a logical/musically
intuitive OS interface.  I do trust you, Mike, even though I've only seen your
picture.  Strange, eh?

BTW, does Roland use the vulgate for "screw" anywhere in the OS?

Harry
(haeckerh@nwrc.gov)
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Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 11:11:41 -0700
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From:         Jamie Moffett <moffett@INTERSERV.COM>
Subject:      Re: Master Keyboards
In-Reply-To:  <9604248329.AA832960610@osprey.nwrc.gov>

I am curious as to what you all think about the Ensoniq line of keyboards.  I'm
a music comp/electronic music major at Eastern College and we have ASR's &
TS-10's to work on.  In your opinion(s), how does Ensoniq compare to other
keyboards?  How is the ASR as a sampler?

Thanks,

Jamie Moffett
moffett@interserv.com
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Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 14:27:15 -0500
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From:         Eric Schramm <SCHRAE36@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Master Keyboards

Jamie Moffett wrote:
>
> I am curious as to what you all think about the Ensoniq line of keyboards.  I'm
> a music comp/electronic music major at Eastern College and we have ASR's &
> TS-10's to work on.  In your opinion(s), how does Ensoniq compare to other
> keyboards?  How is the ASR as a sampler?

I own an SQ-1+  synthesizer/keyboard and love it.  The sounds on it are wonderful.  I
have used the ASR series and think they are wonderful.  I just wish they would support
other sampler formats.  My distributor swears by Ensoniq as the making the best
samplers.  From what I've seen, I must agree.

Eric
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Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 17:35:11 -0400
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From:         Sherry Mayrent <oyfpro@CRIS.COM>
Subject:      Notation software

Hello, everybody.  I've been lurking on this list for a couple of weeks now,
and have been quite amazed by the topics covered, many of which don't seem
particularly relevant or unique to electronic music, but delightful
nonetheless.

I have a question on which I'd love to get some practical advice.  I've been
a long-time user of Personal Composer, first in Dos and then in Windows 3.1.
It's always been a fine choice for me, offering everything I needed.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work terribly well with Win95, at least on
my current machine, and I'm wanting at this point to commit to using all
Win95 applications insofaras possible, and it seems that Personal Composer
has reached the end of the line.  Does anyone have any favorite program to
recommend?   I mostly write charts of new arrangements for my klezmer band
and of new tunes that I write, so mostly I need good keyboard or mouse note
entry, immediate playback that takes account of changes without too much
delay, good transposition, control over enharmonics (if possible), control
over music printing, and exportability into desktop publishing programs.
Price is no object; I care most about the quality of the product.

Thanks in advance.  I look forward to hearing from people.

-- Sherry Mayrent
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Date:         Fri, 24 May 1996 17:52:42 -0400
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From:         Jeff Peters <JFFPTRS@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Master Keyboards (RESPONSE)

Jamie,

I am certain that my astute colleagues may differ in opinion, but I enjoyed
the Ensoniq keyboards that you have mentioned...several years ago.  Today
with the technology available in say a Kurzweil K2500 or even a K2000 (I am
most familiar with Kurzweil's equipment) and the many other companies equal
units, the Ensoniq is a good, but dated piece of equipment.  I would do the
best with what you have and learn all you can, after all, who can afford to
keep up with the technology?  Not even a State-funded institution!!!???  If
it makes you feel any better, the University that I go to doesn't even have a
sampler!!

<)))><
Jeff Peters
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Date:         Sat, 25 May 1996 00:15:32 -0400
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From:         Musicsearch at Nicom <music@NICOM.COM>
Subject:      Electronic Music resources needed

Greetings!

We need your help.  We are asking that you -- the members of EMUSIC-L
mailing list ö help us locate music-related Internet sites to add to our
growing resource called MUSICSEARCH (located at http://musicsearch.com).
We have over 6,000 links already but we know that there are many more
sites and groups out there on the Internet including those focusing on
Electronic music.

If you know of any music-related resource located on the Internet please
come by our site today and add it.  It's fast and free.

Thank you for your help.


Sean Conkin
http://musicsearch.com


P.S. This notice has been posted only on music-related lists.
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Date:         Sat, 25 May 1996 05:23:13 PST
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From:         Miles Teg <mentat@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Electronic Music resources needed

Hey, a good place would be KFMF's home page, do a netscape search and
it'll give you the URL.  It's a cool place, dedicated to underground
module music, pretty awesome.

Miles Teg
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Date:         Sat, 25 May 1996 21:43:13 -0400
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From:         Jeff Peters <JFFPTRS@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Notation software

I recommend Cakewalk.  It sounds as though it will fit the bill.

Jeff Peters
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Date:         Sun, 26 May 1996 09:51:35 EST
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From:         Brent Lee <F5MLEE_at_BLDG183__PO@SMTP-GW.CV62.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      What do I need to get started?

Could someone please tell me what I need to make electronic music with a PC.  I
know a General Midi kit and a keyboard will be needed, but what is the best
software to use and is there anything else I should get.

Thank you in advance
Brent
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Date:         Sun, 26 May 1996 19:46:12 +0100
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From:         Nick Rothwell <nick@CASSIEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Master Keyboards (RESPONSE)

>Today
>with the technology available in say a Kurzweil K2500 or even a K2000 (I am
>most familiar with Kurzweil's equipment) and the many other companies equal
>units, the Ensoniq is a good, but dated piece of equipment.

Reliability aside, I was always impressed by Ensoniq's sound: very clean,
clear and thick. While there is some merit in describing some tools as
"dated", this doesn't make sense for anything which we wish to regard as a
musical instrument.

Btw, I don't like the Kurzweil K series at all, for reasons no more and no
less applicable than yours.

Btw #2, this is on the wrong mailing list.

         Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL        contemporary dance projects
         http://www.cassiel.com        music synthesis and control

             years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again
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Date:         Sun, 26 May 1996 21:36:11 -0700
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From:         Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City <atomic@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Re[2]: Master Keyboards...A-90
In-Reply-To:  <9604248329.AA832960610@osprey.nwrc.gov> from "harry haecker" at
              May 24, 96 10:56:24 am

harry haecker writes--
>
>>Imagine an English-translated Roland user manual as a front panel.
>>The mind cowers.
>
>>mike
>
>Hmm.  I was thinking of checking it out and maybe upgrading, but it sounds like
>Roland still hasn't figured out how to come up with a logical/musically
>intuitive OS interface.  I do trust you, Mike, even though I've only seen your
>picture.  Strange, eh?

Not at all. My picture has that effect on people. In person, it's even
worse; you'd have handed over your credit cards and car keys without
realizing you'd even done it. ;)

All kidding aside, I appear to be in the minority WRT the A-90;
you're strongly advised to check it out yourself rather than rely
on my opinion. In contrast, Roland's new XP-80 appears to be very
nicely laid out, having eliminated a lot of the stupidities plaguing
everything between the U-50 and nowadays: nice graphic display,
clear panel layout, and a fair number of master keyboard functions
(that can be turned off if you don't want them, hallelujah). They
even give you a slider that produces howling resonant self-oscillation
at any setting past halfway up. Isn't that nice?

>BTW, does Roland use the vulgate for "screw" anywhere in the OS?

...gurfle?


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Date:         Sun, 26 May 1996 21:39:46 -0700
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From:         Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City <atomic@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Master Keyboards
In-Reply-To:  <199605241811.LAA11096@interserv.com> from "Jamie Moffett" at May
              24, 96 11:11:41 am

Jamie Moffett writes--
>
>I am curious as to what you all think about the Ensoniq line of keyboards.  I'm
>a music comp/electronic music major at Eastern College and we have ASR's &
>TS-10's to work on.  In your opinion(s), how does Ensoniq compare to other
>keyboards?  How is the ASR as a sampler?

Ensoniq has an iffy reputation among net.musicians with long memories;
they produced a number of keyboards in the late 1980s and early 1990s
that had severe reliability problems. And I do mean severe! However,
the latest stuff from them appears to be much more solidly built, and
a lot of people swear by the flexibility and lovely sound quality of
their synths. Our illustrious co-moderator has done an entire album
on one Ensoniq keyboard, with no other sound sources, no computer, and
almost no outboard effects or treatments.

And Nick was right, this topic does belong on SYNTH-L rather than here.

mike
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Date:         Sun, 26 May 1996 21:44:29 -0700
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From:         Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City <atomic@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: What do I need to get started?
In-Reply-To:  <9604268331.AA833129495@smtp-gw.cv62.navy.mil> from "Brent Lee"
              at May 26, 96 09:51:35 am

Brent Lee writes--
>
>Could someone please tell me what I need to make electronic music with a PC.  I
>know a General Midi kit and a keyboard will be needed, but what is the best
>software to use and is there anything else I should get.

I strongly suggest taking this question to SYNTH-L, where the audience
will be a bit more forthcoming with help.

mike


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Date:         Mon, 27 May 1996 11:50:49 +0100
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From:         "D.M.Kelly" <D.M.Kelly@UEA.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Electronic Music resources needed
Comments: To: Musicsearch at Nicom <music@NICOM.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <199605250420.AAA27528@dcez.dcez.com>

I shall shortly be announcing the official launch of my web-page.

It details all known works to me for oboe and tape as a result of a
massive bit of research for my dissertation. It will have scores, audio
clips, commentaries, composers e-mails etc.

It's not operational yet, but here's the address in advance:

http://www.uea.ac.uk/~u9315152/

Please let me know if anyone is interested.

yours,

Dominic Kelly.
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Date:         Mon, 27 May 1996 11:02:12 -0500
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From:         Michael Hobson <mhobson@FALCON.CC.UKANS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Electronic Music resources needed

>I shall shortly be announcing the official launch of my web-page.
>
>It details all known works to me for oboe and tape as a result of a
>massive bit of research for my dissertation. It will have scores, audio
>clips, commentaries, composers e-mails etc.
>
>It's not operational yet, but here's the address in advance:
>
>http://www.uea.ac.uk/~u9315152/
>
>Please let me know if anyone is interested.
>
>yours,
>
>Dominic Kelly.


I, for one, would be very interested in a directory of contemporary
composers, song writers and arrangers.  In particular, Steven Sametz, David
Conte, or Simon Carrington.

Virtually,

Michael Hobson

------
                           \\|//
                            (o o)                    From the desk of
Michael Hobson
~~~~~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


"Why don't you run upstairs and write a nice Gershwin tune?"

--Leonard Bernstein
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Date:         Mon, 27 May 1996 15:06:47 -0400
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From:         "Andrew Whittle. AWhit." <Andysmoke@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Master Keyboards

In a message dated 27/05/96  05:31:18, you write:

>Ensoniq has an iffy reputation among net.musicians with long memories;
>they produced a number of keyboards in the late 1980s and early 1990s
>that had severe reliability problems. And I do mean severe! However,
>the latest stuff from them appears to be much more solidly built, and
>a lot of people swear by the flexibility and lovely sound quality of
>their synths. Our illustrious co-moderator has done an entire album
>on one Ensoniq keyboard, with no other sound sources, no computer, and
>almost no outboard effects or treatments.

Hmm.  I don't know. But I do know that they do good quality sound cards.
 Sampling quality is great, no fuzziness.

Later,

Andy W. (wirral, England)

p.s.
What does 'Thanks for flaming me on low heat' mean?
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Date:         Mon, 27 May 1996 12:10:59 -0700
Reply-To:     Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
Sender:       Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
From:         Nathanael W Berry <nwberry@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Master Keyboards...A-90

>>Interface is pretty straight forward,
>
>... and my
>first comment upon seeing it was "Yaaaggghhh!" However, after
>carefully examining the front panel, I amended that to "Yeeeeeesh!"
>
>In my opinion, it's the most abysmally ugly, confusing interface I've
>seen in years. You get a proliferation of individualized controls
>rather than a central menu...but the controls all look alike, are

        didn't you like those big arrow head up and down buttons? :)

>...poorly labelled, and seem to follow no logical layout that I can
>fathom. Some people must like it, but I literally can't figure out
>how to make anything do anything on it. Scary.
>
        I can appreciate your impression. There are a lot of 5/8 x 5/8 inch
buttons (16mm for the rest of the world), and many labels criptic quite
possibly beyond recognition. I have come from the ensoniq and kurzweil camps
where menues rule (some with more success than others, the six buttons on
the PX1000 are easy to learn, but one can spend a lifetime scrolling through
menues ;). However, my _impression_ (after being initially clueless) was
that after using the A-90 for a bit, one could master the mass of buttons,
and reach functions quickly and potentially in real time. One placement I
absolutely dont understand is the wheels (upper left hand corner). It is
unlikely that I can learn to make my left arm grow a few extra inches. I
guess Roland wants the user to use their lever. I also did not try to edit
any of the sounds as I was primarily action hunting.

        A salesperson intimated that if you (i) could work an A-80, the A-90
would seem like a walk in the park. Coming from NY, I'm not sure what that
meant, but from the tone of the remark I assumed "easier".

>Imagine an English-translated Roland user manual as a front panel.
>The mind cowers.

I think you need the sound Side-Show Bob (of The Simpson's fame) makes, that
kind of a shuddering utterance sound. Dont know how to write it.


BTW -I did not see the manual. Roland has produced some infamous literature
in the past. Are recent manuals as...entertaining? (that is, as long as you
dont have to USE the function that is being "explained")


Nate

