========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 14:10:20 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Martin Russ Subject: General FAQs V1.1 (Last changed 21 April 1996) Comments: To: SYNTH-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Warning: Long Document (375 lines, 2451 words, about 6 pages)-------------- EMUSIC-L and SYNTH-L Frequently Asked Questions: General This document is posted approximately every four weeks. It is intended that this document should answer many of the questions regularly asked by subscribers to the lists. Comments and corrections should be sent to the maintainer, Martin Russ, at: mruss@midi.dungeon.com This is Issue 1.1. 21 April 1996. This is the second posting: 2 June 1996 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Changes since issue 1.0.: - Minor corrections to the text. - Added extra reference to the 'Mac v. PC' section. TOPIC INDEX################################################################ - Max - Soundcards - Music mailing lists & Newsgroups - Mac & PC - Theremins - FTP & HTTP MAX######################################################################## "What is MAX, anyway?"##################################################### MAX is a software toolkit which gives a real-time, interactive, graphical development environment for multimedia, music (and more). Programs are 'written' by connecting together graphical objects, rather than typing text. Typical applications for MAX include: Editors and Librarians for MIDI equipment; Compositional Tools; Utilities for analysing musical performance; and much more. MAX is often mentioned in these lists. It currently exists in variants for the Unix environment and on the Apple Macintosh, although a petition has been mentioned within these lists for a Windows version - contact JOEL STERN on stern@email.loc.gov or j.stern11@geis.genie.com for details. For more information on the Macintosh version, you should try contacting your nearest Opcode dealer. (Opcode distribute MAX for the Mac). Opcode also have a World Wide Web page at : http://www.rahul.net/opcode/index.html. There is also a MAX listserv. Send a message to listserv@vm1.mcgill.ca with a Subject of: Subscribe Max, and the message text: SUBSCRIBE MAX You will then receive daily digests of postings to the MAX list. SOUNDCARDS################################################################# "Where do I find information on Soundcards?"############################### Information on soundcards for personal computers can be found in the following Usenet newsgroup(s)" comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.GUS. MUSIC MAILING LISTS & NEWSGROUPS########################################### ##"Anyone know a good MUSIC discussion group on ?"####### The best place for discussion of almost any group, band, artiste, performer, musician (you get the idea), is the Usenet newsgroups. Try: alt.fan. ##Is rec.audio.pro a list that one can subscribe to like SYNTH-L?########## No. rec.audio.pro is a Usenet newsgroup, so you can't have it posted to you via e-mail. You need to have a newsreader program to be able to read it, or you may be able to dial in to a local BBS that carries Usenet newsgroups. Newsreader programs can usually be set so that they 'subscribe' to a specific newsgroup or groups, and then the end result is very like subscribing to a mailing list - you can read the postings to the newsgroup. ##Is there a list which discusses recording & mixing techniques?########### This subject is sometimes touched on in several mailing lists, including SYNTH-L and Electronica. There are also the Usenet newsgroups. The closest newsgroup is probably rec.audio.pro. ##Where can I find out about Algorithmic Composition?###################### There's an algorithmic composition mailing list. Mail to majordomo@serial.music.uiowa.edu (no subject required) with the body of the message saying subscribe algo-comp (Checked Dec 95: OK: Martin Russ) ##So how do I post to a newsgroup via e-mail?############################## You can use a mail-to-news gateway. Here's how you do it using the UTexas gateway: The 'To:' address should read xxx.xxxxx.xxxxxx.usenet@cs.utexas.edu, where xxx.xxxxx.xxxxxx is the newsgroup name: eg. rec.music.makers.synth. The resulting full address is this case would be: rec.music.makers.synth.usenet@cs.utexas.edu (Of course, you should really try to locate your nearest mail-to-news gateway rather than just use the UTexas one!) MAC & PC################################################################### ##Should I buy a PC or a Mac?############################################## This topic has been known to escalate into savage flame wars. There is no simple answer, but here are some pointers: RULE NUMBER ONE: SOFTWARE Find the software first, then THAT might make you decide which platform to buy. Some software is available on only one platform. (Max on the Mac is one example: there are counter-examples) Hard disk recording is often VERY platform-specific. RULE NUMBER TWO: VAPOURWARE Buy based upon what you can get now (this instant), not based upon what someone has promised will be available in the future. RULE NUMBER THREE: OBSOLESCENCE Whatever computer you buy will be almost instantly obsolete - and available for less than you paid for it. QUESTIONS TO CONSIDER You may need to purchase more than just the computer. -What are you going to hook it up to? Synthesizers? Samplers? -Do you need a MIDI connection only, or will you want to use a SCSI interface for sample transfer? -If you are going to use a MIDI connection, how many MIDI devices do you have? This will help you decide if you will want a single port or a multi-port MIDI interface. -Do you want to use a separate MIDI patch bay? -Do you want to do MIDI sequencing only, or do you want to do digital audio of any type? This can be divided into simple sound file and sample manipulation, and full multi-track song recording and editing... -If you want to work with sound files, are you going to want an internal sound card of some type or will you only work with "real" external/dedicated samplers, such as Ensoniq, Kurzweil, Akai or Peavey? -Do you plan to ever cut your own CDs with your own CD-R drive? Actually, there is good software for this on several different platforms. Some people like the stuff for Linux... -Do you want to do sequencing only, or do you want notation as well? (Do you understand the difference?) -Are you going to use this computer for music only, or will you want to do word processing/database/online services etc? -Do you want to be able to use free/low cost software from the Net, or do you only want commercial software? Another way of wording this might be: do you want a "turnkey" system that is already setup for you, or do you want to roll up your sleeves, get in there and learn the insides? -Do you think you might want to develop your own software? -And, a really important question is, what do your friends and fellow musicians use? If you are going to collaborate on projects, you should consider what the other people own, for better or worse... (But don't forget MIDI Files!) SPOILERS Many programs are equivalent across the Mac and PC platforms. Many 'Mac' developers, such as Opcode and Mark of the Unicorn, are now developing for Windows, so their products are going to be very very similar across the two platforms. Passport develop for both platforms, and the PC specific developers,like Twelve Tone, are now developing for both platforms. Plug 'n' Play PCI slots will not be standard on PCs until Pentium (+ Pro) motherboards become common - but PCI is now supported by PC and Mac. As a result, there is definitely not going to be as big a difference in setup and use any more. You can buy turnkey setups of both PC and Mac... Windows 95 and the Mac OS are both neat GUIs. Neither is perfect. Windows on the PC and the Mac are each equally as painful to develop for in their own way. BOTH have memory allocation problems. If you ask anyone about Mac versus PC, you'll get answers from every direction: mostly based on what people are familiar with or on their opinions as to what computing should be. So for what ever reason people use the computer they use, it is all personal. Sort of like a Ford, "some people swear by them, and some swear at them". It is all up to what you like and how you like to do it. Some people use both Mac and PC equipment, depending on what the need is. This is not to suggest that one should go out and buy both types of computers to satisfy every need, but both formats have their ups and downs. Keep an open mind. Both platforms definitely have their strengths and weaknesses. Neither is a clear winner. Further reading? The following web site contains lots of information regarding the Mac vs. PC debate - it is biased, of course! http://www.madmansdream.com/FairyTales/newpcTales2.toc.html Craig Anderton's column in the April 1996 Issue of Keyboard magazine (US) has a reasonable overview of the strengths and weakenesses of the Mac and PC. ##How do I move Standard MIDI Files from a Mac to a PC and vice-versa?##### Just save the MIDI file onto PC disks instead of Mac disks. Any Mac with an "FDHD" (high-density, 1.2M) disk drive can write onto DOS floppies and read them - using Apple File exchange or PC Exchange. (The Mac Plus, SE, and SE/30 do NOT have these drives). Macs running system 7.1 and above have good native support for reading DOS disks. PC disk access may be slow, and it is probably best to format the diskettes in the PC - some people have had reliability problems with PC diskettes formatted in Macs. As for using the files, the PC will just read them, but on the Mac, you'll have to open the application up first - you can't just double click on the file icon itself. If your application can't see the file, then you can look around for one of the freeware pieces of software that can change the file type and creator. Of course, there is also the Mac 640CD Dos Compatible or one of the add-in PC boards/cards. There have been reports of programs allowing DOS machines to read Mac disks as well, but the reviews have been mixed, leaning toward the negative. THEREMINS################################################################## ##What's a Theremin?####################################################### The theremin is one of the very first electronic musical instruments, and yet is one of the most novel and original. It is played without being touched. The theremin responds instantaneously and continuously to the motions of the player's hands in the space surrounding it. The theremin player uses one hand to control pitch, and the other to control volume. The instrument's tone resembles that of a violin, cello, or human voice, but has its own unique ethereal quality. The theremin was first developed in 1920 by the Russian musician/physicist Leon Theremin, and was originally produced in the United States in 1929 by the Radio Corporation of America. Currently, theremins are available from Big Briar, Bob Moog runs it (or at least does the design) and they also have a MIDI-ized Theramin. They say: "The Big Briar Series 91 theremins retain the timbre and playing characteristics of Professor Theremin's designs, but use contemporary digital and analog integrated circuit technology. The pitch range extends from the lowest audible pitch to three octaves above middle C. A small speaker is built in. Line-level audio, speaker, and pitch and volume control voltage outputs are standard features. High-quality, hand-crafted cabinets in three distinctive cabinet styles are available. Optional accessories include road cases and a small external speaker." For more information, contact Big Briar, Inc., 554-C Riverside Drive, Asheville, NC 28801; tel. (800) 948-1990 or (704) 251-0090, fax (704) 254-6233. They will snail-mail you a much more informative leaflet (6 pages or so, with pictures & reading list). The MIDI theremin is pretty expensive (about $2K US) but sends out full 14-bit control messages for pitch bend (that's 16384 steps... you could represent the entire piano keyboard, tuned down to the nearest cent or hundredth of a semi-tone, with only 8800 steps!). Big Briar is now also offering a DIY non-MIDI Theremin in the $250 range, including handmade antennas and a finished case. There has been a recent reissue of the only Theremin virtuouso, Clara Rockmore (hope I have that right) on CD. You can see a Theremin in action in the Led Zepplin concert movie, "The Song Remains The Same." www.paia.com/paia had a ThereMAX kit for sale in October 1995. You might want to know that there is a theremin page on the WEB at: http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~jbbarile/theremin.html The February 1996 issue of Electronic Musician magazine contains an article on building your own Theremin. FTP & HTTP################################################################# ##Where do I find Midi files/software archives on the Internet?############ There is a list of ftp and mail server archives with MIDI documentation, programs and music on the Internet. Also enclosed is a list of MIDI and electronic music related mailing lists. The latest version of this file can be obtained by ftp from ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17] in pub/MIDI/DOC/archives or by mail from mail-server@cs.ruu.nl (send a message with HELP in the body). From the mail-server the filename without pub/ should be used. The latest monthly version is also available in the various news.answers archives around the world, in music/midi/archives. ##Where can I find information on related books?########################### There is a bibliography on synthesizers, midi, computer and electronic music that has been collected from various sources by Piet van Oostrum . He has tried to bring some structure into it, but not all books will fit into a single subject. NOTE: He has NOT read these books, and the comments are from other people. The latest version of this file can be obtained by ftp from ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17] in pub/MIDI/DOC/bibliography or by mail from mail-server@cs.ruu.nl (send a message with HELP in the body). From the mail-server the filename without pub/ should be used. The latest monthly version is also available in the various news.answers archives around the world, in music/midi/bibliography. ##Where can I find demos of sequencers?#################################### On the Internet/Web, you could try: Harmony Central: http://harmony-central.mit.edu/Software/Mac/ ##Where can I find a list of used gear?#################################### There's a list at: ftp://synthcom.com/pub/synth/docs/current_raw.txt ##"Where is the archive of FAQs kept?"##################################### There are two FAQ documents. These cover Administration and General topics. You will be able to ftp previous FAQ files from the Internet. ##Contributors############################################################# Contributions by Mike Metlay, Joe McMahon, Ned Kartchner, Clive McFarland, Doug Ramsay, Tom Ritchford, David Rodger, Amanda Pehlke, John Rossi, Doug Wellington, Piet van Oostrum, Martin Russ, Bucky Goldstein, Jeff Talman, Devon E. Weller, FAUST, Billy Brown, Roger King and others... ########################################################################### ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Russ Reviewer & Columnist for Sound On Sound Magazine (UK) mruss@midi.dungeon.com Hi-Tech Music Technical Author & MIDI Consultant http://www.dungeon.com/~midi Macintosh & Synthesizer Programmer ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 07:38:16 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nathanael W Berry Subject: Re: Master Keyboards...A-90 >> didn't you like those big arrow head up and down buttons? :) > >WHAT big arrowhead up and down buttons...? 8-\ > I was refering to the cursor and inc/dec buttons. They really aren't that big, but there is reasonable space around them - and they are technically just triangles, but pointed the correct direction such that they do what it appears they should do :) >Another point of departure: wheels above the keyboard don't bother me >very much. My Alesis QS6 has them laid out this way, as did my DX11, >and I really didn't feel they were awkward. Maybe it's 'cause I'm >such a knuckle dragger as it is. I have a decent wing span for my hieght (5'10"), but find the reach a stretch if busy on the right hand side of the keyboard. I dont mind the position on shorter boards. Above the board would not be too bad, but above and left seems extra awkward. Of course, one could argue that on a controller with "such power", I could just map a zone within reach... probably could. BTW I bounced my K2500X based controller off Kurzweil, and they responded! They claim this idea has been the subject of discussion but there is no product to announce at this time. Given their habit of announcing about 1 year before ship, that would put a product out a couple of years if the project exists. Since a significant number of required components are already in production, this product could be a bit faster to market than history suggests - dare I wait? ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:29:15 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City Subject: Re: Master Keyboards...A-90 In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19960603103912.5577415e@popd.netcruiser> from "Nathanael W Berry" at Jun 3, 96 07:38:16 am Nathanael W Berry writes-- > >>Another point of departure: wheels above the keyboard don't bother me >>very much. My Alesis QS6 has them laid out this way, as did my DX11, >>and I really didn't feel they were awkward. Maybe it's 'cause I'm >>such a knuckle dragger as it is. > > I have a decent wing span for my hieght (5'10"), but find the reach >a stretch if busy on the right hand side of the keyboard. I dont mind the >position on shorter boards. Above the board would not be too bad, but above >and left seems extra awkward. Of course, one could argue that on a >controller with "such power", I could just map a zone within reach... >probably could. We all have little annoyances with how instruments are designed with everything just out of reach. I have yet to find a keyboard other than the Prophet VS that gives you any option to latch an arpeggiator pattern without taking your hands off the keys you're trying to latch. Sheer idiocy. >BTW I bounced my K2500X based controller off Kurzweil, and they responded! >They claim this idea has been the subject of discussion but there is no >product to announce at this time. > Given their habit of announcing about 1 year before ship, that would >put a product out a couple of years if the project exists. Since a >significant number of required components are already in production, this >product could be a bit faster to market than history suggests - dare I wait? No. Kurzweil, thank goodness, doesn't rush products to market, and I doubt they'd put out anything that was only a minor retooling of an existing design (the K2VX doesn't count-- it's not a retooling at all, just a new paintjob). If they were to release a K2500-like controller, I'd want it to be a LOT smaller and lighter than the synth itself. I find most controllers to be far too clunky for practical use, and the process hasn't been helped any by the recent practice of stuffing sound cards into controllers so they're not quite controllers any more. mike -- Thanks for flaming me on low heat. (p. stallbaumer) ========================================================================== Mike Metlay - ATOMIC CITY - P. O. Box 81175, Pittsburgh, PA 15217-0675 USA = atomic@netcom.com -- http://pd.net/atomic-city -- 800.924.ATOM = CD orders via LOFTY PURSUITS: 800.548.6724 & 904.385.6463, FAX 904.668.5825 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 17:30:33 +0200 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Roderick van Erp Subject: howdie I just wanted to say hi to all people here at this list. I'm called as nickname "THE RODMAN" and i'm already for 11 years busy making rapmusic. So all people who are also in the same situation of my kind of music, i would like to have contact with. === THE RODMAN RERP@ASML.NL === ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:06:45 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Jacky Schreiber Subject: exchange Anyone on this list interested in exchanging his/her own music CD for one of mine? Is there any place on the web where one can post info about one's CD for exchange/sale for free?? thank you all jacky schreiber jackysch@ven.net ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:57:44 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nathanael W Berry Subject: Re: EMUSIC-L Digest - 3 Jun 1996 to 4 Jun 1996 > 1. Master Keyboards...A-90 > > PS: Sorry about the ill-targetted post. This is a SYNTH-L subject and I (receiving both lists) just poked the ol' reply button without regard. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 00:55:07 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: -Jeff King Subject: Cancel subscription Please cancel my subscription to this mailing list. Sax88keys@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 01:13:50 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Art T. User" Subject: Re: howdie Please forward a tape to my attn: Art Thomas c/o Soundwriter Productions P.O. Box 3773 Englewood, Colorado 80155-3773 (800) 747-6306 Regards ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:39:09 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "william.b.fox" Subject: Re: exchange Jacky Schreiber said: > Anyone on this list interested in exchanging his/her own music CD for > one of mine? Is there any place on the web where one can post info > about one's CD for exchange/sale for free?? Jackie, have you ever read one of Metlay's posts about the session notes for the making of Team Metlay CDs? I wish that other people would follow suit and post about their CD making processes. This IS the place for that. If you don't know what I mean, then check out the Atomic City web site (http://pd.net/atomic-city). If you can't, then I'm sure that Mike would be happy to send you a sample. Or I could Netscape over to the site, download the post (as could any old schmageggy who has Net access), and send it to you. If you post about your processes, then that might bring others out of the woodwork and you'd have more CD exchanges than you'd ever have imagined! Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:47:50 +-200 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Nuno_Rafael_Gon=E7alves_da_Costa?= Subject: Good sounds on the web Does anyone knows where to find good sample sounds on the web for making = underground music??? If someone knows please email me the sites ok??? Thanks!!! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 17:39:51 PDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Fred MoTTe Subject: Re: "Bazik" equipment Juan, I have a very good .XM replayer on my Amiga. It mixes the modules at 44.1khz in 14bits resolution. The sound is better than on a Soundblaster (but still under the quality of a Gravis Ultrasound). Up to now, I don't think there's any descent mod player under Windows. But I've heard a Win95 compatible version of Fastracker II has been released. Talking about using trackers to do tunes for CD products, it's quite possible, as I'm currently using Protracker to compose a tune for a computer music compilation CD. But if you want to use Fastracker II with 16 bits 44khz samples, you will very quickly run out of memory ! Fred. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: "Bazik" equipment Author: Electronic Music Discussion List at INTERNET Date: 29/05/96 15:35 HELLO all e-music people...! About dealing with sound files: we usually find -digitalized sound- files, like .wav, .vox , .voc.... , based on a taking of samples at a extreme speed ( I refer to the 44.1 khz), and therefore a extreme memory waste too, on the other hand we have midi files, memory saving, time non-depending files, to catch till the most difficult musical works.... But let's talk about the Amiga mod file, it's an hibryd of the two types, sincerely the true mods gave certain restrictions about the sampling of instruments..., but with extended mods, we've now the chance of purify our sound to the maximum quality, and take it up and down with the -frecuency tables- , I guess one can do professional works with a Mod editor,( of course if able to sample up to 44.1 and also to play or mix at 44.1 too), 'cause one can sample "anything" and play it on different pitches and time, moreover one can include human voices on the songs....etc WHAT DO You think of make professional music songs with modules, likely for a CD product ????? Has somebody worked or dealed with xm's, I've the idea to include them in Multimedia presentations, due to the flexibility of the sound ( I think it's like an ever modify-able Wave table or sampler ) but the players I've seen on windows platform doesn't allow XM's, it's ever for mods and s3m's,.... and those were the just 4 channels songs, moreover the xm player editors always require all the memory for them only, and don't accept the windows' smartdrive. I've seen windows software for MIDI sequencing, midi composing, soundwaves edition, and Multimedia which works with the internal synth or with waves, but what about xm's....?????? If you know something, I'll thank you lots & lots.... Bye Juan Manuel Rodriguez PD I've heard you talking about Roland, Ensoniq , Korg keyboards...., anybody knows about the PSR line of yamaha? ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 17:19:22 PDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Fred MoTTe Subject: Re[2]: Electronic Music resources needed >>It's a cool place, dedicated to underground >>module music, pretty awesome. > >What's underground module music? > > Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL contemporary dance projects > http://www.cassiel.com music synthesis and control Well, go and check by yourself ;) Modules are sample based musics made on Amiga or PC computer, with software like Soundtracker, Protracker, Fastracker, Screamtracker... This is not midi stuff. No synths are used. ...At least, I suppose that's what was called "underground module music" in the previous message... Fred. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 11:46:12 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Jacky Schreiber Subject: Re: exchange ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB52D4.CA3F21A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- De: william.b.fox[SMTP:wbf@ALOFT.ATT.COM] Enviado: Mi=E9rcoles 5 de Junio de 1996 08:39 AM Para: Multiple recipients of list EMUSIC-L Asunto: Re: exchange Jacky Schreiber said: > Anyone on this list interested in exchanging his/her own music CD for > one of mine? Is there any place on the web where one can post info > about one's CD for exchange/sale for free?? Jackie, have you ever read one of Metlay's posts about the session notes for the making of Team Metlay CDs? I wish that other people would follow suit and post about their CD making processes. This IS the place for that. If you don't know what I mean, then check out the Atomic City web site (http://pd.net/atomic-city). If you can't, then I'm sure that Mike would be happy to send you a sample. Or I could Netscape over to the site, download the post (as could any old schmageggy who has Net access), and send it to you. If you post about your processes, then that might bring others out of the woodwork and you'd have more CD exchanges than you'd ever have imagined! Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com -.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-.-,-= .-,-.-,-.-, Many thanks for this info. 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AWhit." Subject: Re: exchange In a message dated 04/06/96 23:27:48, you write: >Anyone on this list interested in exchanging his/her own music CD for one of >mine? >Is there any place on the web where one can post info about one's CD for >exchange/sale >for free?? > >thank you all >jacky schreiber Well that depends on where your from and what you've got to exchange. I am interested. Is it computer programs or audio CD's you want to exchange. Oh, and if anyone has the addresses for any exchange sites, please let me know too. Thanks in advance, Andy W. Andysmoke@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:34:34 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Andrew Whittle. AWhit." Subject: Re: "Bazik" equipment Does anyone actually know of any programs that will let me make .MOD files? I have some .MOD players, like UltiMOD for Windows, and one for DOS called SC5. But I can't make any .MOD's on them, and I don't know how to make them. Can anyone point me to a site on the web where I can download one if possible? I have plenty of memory and HD space, so I don't have to worry about that. Thanks in Advance, Andy W. (Wirral, England) Andysmoke@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:34:36 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Andrew Whittle. AWhit." Subject: Search for a user Hi everyone. A while ago, I sent a mail for help on finding MIDI files. Thanks to everyone who responded, but I'm looking for someone in particular who answered. There is a user on this list called Brad ?????? He sent me a zipped file called QPACK.ZIP which was a few MIDI's all together in one ZIP file. I need to find his email address so that I can write to him. This is not very urgent, but if anyone has not deleted a mail he has sent to the list, could they please mail it to me personally, or if Brad is reading this, can you mail me please? Thanks for reading, Andy W. (Wirral, England) Andysmoke@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 17:10:25 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Ken White Subject: Re: exchange >Jacky Schreiber said: >> Anyone on this list interested in exchanging his/her own music CD for >> one of mine? Is there any place on the web where one can post info >> about one's CD for exchange/sale for free?? > If anyone has samples they would like posted, I have some web space off a music page where I could put some samples. You'd just have to find a way to get samples to me (web,tape,whatever). Check out the page at http://members.gnn.com/immortalcd/immortal.html, and drop me a note there if you have something you would like put on. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 20:46:14 PST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Miles Teg Subject: Re: "Bazik" equipment MOD files...as in Modual music files? Yes get Scream Tracker, available almost anywhere, do a WEB search (KFMF Music Page has it anf many others) or, if no WWW, do a WAIS search, should be on a bunch of servers. Some people also like ProTracker for Mods or get MultiTracker for MTM's. BTW ScreamTracker also makes S3M's (Iike MODs but suped). Miles Teg mentat@juno.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 04:15:20 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Bacil C. Warren" Subject: Best Equipment Hello to all users: I'd like some advice as to the best keyboard synth currently available for $999 US. I am involved with a project to bring this technology into a high school music program which has no previous experience with synths (I have some experience with Yamaha and Kawai--several years ago). I am currently looking at Ensoniq. You may not like the choice, and I'd LOVE to have some feedback, but consider my parameters: my school district planned to spend about $2,000 per teacher for an entire computer system. It is almost possible to get the proper CPU for that price! I am NOT interested in purchasing toys; these are high school students who tend to be disadvantaged economically, but are smart, musical, good citizens and adept consumers (Better than me, likely)--but I can currently access this group, and they can't. I have nothing against CASIO products, except for thin plastic and poor sound representations. The situation does not, on the other hand, require megasounds. The system needs to be as advanced as possible, but this is still a starter system for high school musicians. Please advise--and keep in mind the magic number stated above. Thanks to all-- Chris ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 06:42:51 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Brad Elder Subject: Re: Best Equipment Comments: To: Azsouth@AOL.COM Bacil Wrote: >I'd like some advice as to the best keyboard synth currently available for >$999 US. Bacil, Seriously look into the Alesis QS6. It is only a 61 key keyboard but the rest of the specs are phenominal: 64 note polyphony 640 programs on board 500 mixes on board It uses the same samples, filters, amps etc. as it "Big Brothers" the Quadrasynth & QS4 Additional programs & mixes are available on "expansion cards" both programs & mixes are completely editable 8meg RAM expandable with cards MIDI in/out/thru IBM/MAC serial interface stereo out headphone out 2 pedals Besides all of that it sounds Damned Good! Definitely NOT a toy & runs right in the price range you are looking for. When I went out shopping & comparing everybody I talked too about comparing the QS6 with any other brand said there was nothing on the market that even comes close in comparison. ----------------------------------------------------- None of us are getting out of this alive! Brad Elder Gbelder@GNN.COM ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 10:09:35 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "william.b.fox" Subject: Underground > Subject: EMUSIC-L Digest - 5 Jun 1996 to 6 Jun 1996 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:47:50 +-200 > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Nuno_Rafael_Gon=E7alves_da_Costa?= > > Subject: Good sounds on the web > > Does anyone knows where to find good sample sounds on the web for making = > underground music??? If someone knows please email me the sites ok??? > Thanks!!! Please educate me on the definition of module music. Somebody said: > It's a cool place, dedicated to underground module music, pretty > awesome. Then Nick asked: > What's underground module music? And Fred MoTTe responded: > Well, go and check by yourself ;) Modules are sample based musics made > on Amiga or PC computer, with software like Soundtracker, Protracker, > Fastracker, Screamtracker... This is not midi stuff. No synths are > used. ...At least, I suppose that's what was called "underground > module music" in the previous message... So underground module music is defined entirely by the methods and tools used to create it and not at all by the characteristics of the music itself? Is there any relationship between underground music and underground module music? In my day, underground had a certain meaning. If I apply that meaning to the phrase "underground music," then I would conclude that it would no longer be underground music the instant you played it for anybody who wasn't in your underground movement. ;-) Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 08:34:27 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Timothy Kelly Subject: Re: Best Equipment Hi All, If I had $995.00 dollars and was buying one keyboard for a high school, I would look at the top of the line Yamaha portable auto everything. PSR 620. Sounds are ok, but the students would have lots of fun with the styles and all the buttons. A sound module could always be added later for better sounds. If one wants the best overall sounds, then Alesis QS6 has a lot of note power, 64 voices at once and one can upgrade to the 8 meg piano and other sounds via add on cards. If one is going used, a Yamaha QS300 has nice style and pattern functions, or the Roland XP50 with the JV1080 sounds. Both of these should be under a thousand used since they sell for $1300-1400 new. As far as computers go, a 486 DX2 66 PC can be found for $800 or less and makes a great midi controller for sequencering, digital audio recording. A soundblaster 16 with daughterboard connections should be included at that price. One can then just add a Roland or Yamaha db later. Or now, if you can get a really good deal on the 486. Happy Midi Shopping Timothy Kelly MidiVox -- MidiVox-Worlds 1st Voice to Midi Converter. Real Time. No Delays. Hum a Bass, Croon a Sax, Scat a Horn, Scream a Guitar, Rap some Drums, Sing a Cello. Become a Human Sequencer, Human Vocoder, Human Breath Controller. AES "Best in Show." EM "Editors Choice." " MidiVox Roars." Keyboard. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 09:28:47 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: John Krikawa Subject: Re: Best Equipment "Bacil C. Warren" : >Hello to all users: > >I'd like some advice as to the best keyboard synth currently available for >$999 US. I am involved with a project to bring this technology into a high Could you please discuss this over on SYNTH-L? It doesn't seem to belong here. Thanks, -john jkrikawa@ccit.arizona.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 09:57:17 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City Subject: Re: Best Equipment In-Reply-To: <199606061041.GAA21768@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com> from "Brad Elder" at Jun 6, 96 06:42:51 am Brad Elder writes-- > >Bacil Wrote: > >>I'd like some advice as to the best keyboard synth currently available for >>$999 US. > >Bacil, > >Seriously look into the Alesis QS6. It is only a 61 key keyboard but the >rest of the specs are phenominal: > >64 note polyphony >640 programs on board >500 mixes on board >It uses the same samples, filters, amps etc. as it "Big Brothers" the >Quadrasynth & QS4 >Additional programs & mixes are available on "expansion cards" >both programs & mixes are completely editable >8meg RAM expandable with cards >MIDI in/out/thru >IBM/MAC serial interface >stereo out >headphone out >2 pedals > > >Besides all of that it sounds Damned Good! Definitely NOT a toy & runs right >in the price range you are looking for. When I went out shopping & comparing >everybody I talked too about comparing the QS6 with any other brand said >there was nothing on the market that even comes close in comparison. I'll second this. No matter what, you'll want one of the new generation of keyboards that interface directly to PCs. They avoid the cost of interfaces and are very quick and neat to set up, and are competitive in price. Of the genre, the Kawai K11 is hopelessly cheap, the Roland XP-10 has a few cute features but is opaque to work with, the Yamaha CS1x is vaporware (and is apparently narrowly aimed at the "house" genre) and the Korg X5D is a decent machine all around (and some find it easiest to program) but IMO isn't as solid as the QS6. At the risk of getting shot in the head, let me point to the July 1996 issue of RECORDING, where I review the QS6 and discuss not only the features mentioned above but also the free CD-ROM that comes with every QS6, which gives you a fully functional on-screen editor/ librarian and a sequencer. That's as close to plug and play as you'll ever get. It should be on the newsstands in a couple of weeks. I put my money where my mouth is, by the way. After reviewing the QS6, I plan to keep it in place of several older and less solid synths in my rig. Anyone want to buy a-- oops, this isn't SYNTH-L. ;) mike -- I guess you have to get your page turner to press the latch button. (robinsot) ========================================================================== Mike Metlay - ATOMIC CITY - P. O. Box 81175, Pittsburgh, PA 15217-0675 USA = atomic@netcom.com -- http://pd.net/atomic-city -- 800.924.ATOM = CD orders via LOFTY PURSUITS: 800.548.6724 & 904.385.6463, FAX 904.668.5825 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:01:08 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Sin Byte@Aol.Com" Subject: Re: Best Equipment If you are looking for used PC equipment- - -allow me. Contact a place called : Computer Again 132 Gazza blvd Farmingdale, NY 11735 or fax at: 1-516-845-7505 They've got 486DX2/66's starting at around $400.00. This is not a joke. When faxing put it to the attention of Mr.Knight. Hope this helps everybody out. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 13:16:12 -1100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Tim Robinson Subject: Keyboard size Bach's keyboard was only 4 octaves long: that should be enough for anyone. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Best Equipment Author: Brad Elder at tawa Date: 06/6/96 06:42 AM Bacil Wrote: >I'd like some advice as to the best keyboard synth currently available for >$999 US. Bacil, Seriously look into the Alesis QS6. It is only a 61 key keyboard but the rest of the specs are phenominal: 64 note polyphony 640 programs on board 500 mixes on board It uses the same samples, filters, amps etc. as it "Big Brothers" the Quadrasynth & QS4 Additional programs & mixes are available on "expansion cards" both programs & mixes are completely editable 8meg RAM expandable with cards MIDI in/out/thru IBM/MAC serial interface stereo out headphone out 2 pedals Besides all of that it sounds Damned Good! Definitely NOT a toy & runs right in the price range you are looking for. When I went out shopping & comparing everybody I talked too about comparing the QS6 with any other brand said there was nothing on the market that even comes close in comparison. ----------------------------------------------------- None of us are getting out of this alive! Brad Elder Gbelder@GNN.COM