========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:00:32 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: wbf@ALOFT.ATT.COM Subject: Re: Our last, best hope for funding Nick's Arts Admin 101 introductory lecture: > Summary: it's almost impossible to come up with a team to perform, let > alone make video work. Even if a video were done, it would not look good. > To make it look good would take money. There's no money because the Arts > Council isn't giving me any, certainly not for alleged "promotional" > purposes. Bill's Marketing 101 lecture: Remember, a video demo for you is equally a demo for the dancers. Since the expense of a decent three camera shoot was only "slightly frightening" to you, then splitting the cost with the choreographer and dancers (and possibly a talented but fledgeling video company that needs a demo) should reduce the scare factor somewhat. Besides, if there isn't a table in the lobby at your performances where people sell Cassiel videos (and T-shirts, CDs, cassettes, beer steins, buttons, and whatever else you can think of), then you're not making full use of your audience's capacity to consume. Make that video demo perform double duty as a demo and as merchandise that pays for itself and its distribution to arts councils. Maybe there should be a different list discussing how to market music, but until then, I hope people don't mind the business aspects of making music being discussed on emusic-l. Now where's my free Team Metlay - Ballistic T-shirt? ;-) Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:21:26 EDT Reply-To: tom@mvision.com Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: Our last, best hope for funding [Re: Look, Ma, No Keyboard!] In-Reply-To: <199607010500.BAA22095@atlanta.american.edu> (message from Automatic digest processor on Mon, 1 Jul 1996 01:00:09 -0400) Regarding the VL1m... Yamaha is coming out with a half-rack VL70m that does a single voice for $650US. Supposed to be very good. /t Tom Ritchford tom@mvision.com, tom@weirdos.com Verge's "Little Idiot" -- Music for the mentally peculiar. 1-800-WEIRDOS http://www.weirdos.com/verge ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:45:11 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Crandall Subject: lists/newsgroups for acoustics/studio construction? Comments: To: Max list A bit off-topic, but I'm moving to a new apartment and have to do some "acoustical massage" on what will be my project studio. What are the best lists, newsgroups, web sites, etc. for info/advice on building bass traps, etc.? alternatively, anyone who wouldn't mind answering a few questions would be welcome to e-mail me directly. Thanx in advance, dcrand1@gl.umbc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:28:00 PDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Zamudio, Vincent" Subject: hi there!!! hello to everyone, my name is vince and i am a new subscriber to this list. i just wanted to introduce myself and to ask if anyone knows anything about "sampling" music (via electronic samplers) or anything about the legalities of sampling music that is not your own. please write back as soon as you can. thank you.... vince ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:04:06 CST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: harry haecker Subject: Re: hi there!!! >hello to everyone, my name is vince and i am a new subscriber to this list. Hi Vince...welcome aboard. >...anyone knows anything about "sampling" music (via electronic samplers) Yes, there are one or two of us who do this on this list ;-) >or anything about the legalities of sampling music that is not your >own. I know that the Kurzweil K2000 list just finished an extensive discussion on this recently. I suggest you go through the archives of their list from the past 4 months using the keyword "legal". This list may have done the same, too; sometimes I get the lists mixed up. Harry Haecker (haeckerh@nwrc.gov) please write back as soon as you can. thank you.... vince ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:29:45 +0200 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Ullrich Peter Subject: Re: Urgent: Usermanual for DIGITECH DSP 128 Plus needed ! >When I bought my used 128 used, I got the city for Digitech off the machine, >called information and got a phone number, and much to my surprise, the nice >lady at Digitech hand copied the manual for me and mailed it to me at no >charge. You might give it a try. > > Thanks for the info. I tried to fax to Digitech USA but all I heard was that I have to dial the extension - but no extension is mentioned for the fax on the webpage... Do you know the fax extension ? Ciao, Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto: ullrich@kapsch.co.at Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:58:16 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: John Krikawa Subject: Re: Our last, best hope for funding [Re: Look, Ma, No Keyboard!] >>A video short on the gear, the process, music and a brief interaction with >>dance would probably do it for me. > >True, but that's tricky for a number of reasons. Firstly, for a lot of >dance, it does not come across on video. I have a video here of some of >Rosemary Butcher's work, shot in Guildford Cathedral. I'm a great fan of >her work, and have seen some of these pieces in the flesh, but this kind of >stuff does not come across on a TV screen. (She admits this.) You just have >to be there. > >Secondly, doing video properly, so that delicate work *can* come across, is >expensive; we're talking multiple cameras, synchronisation, >editing/post-production and so on. I priced some of this stuff earlier in >the year, and it was slightly frightening. Expense didn't occur to me and wrongly so. Several of the people I enjoy working with are video artists and have free or low cost access to near broadcast quality equipment, so I'm somewhat surrounded by a sense of disregard for the cost of professional services. It's just not an issue for them when they are working on art. The normal cost for a short is probably 'highly frightening'. I specialize in composing emusic for video art, and because of the passion I share with the vid artists, we usually absorb our own studio costs. >Thirdly, and most intangibly: it is actually very difficult to find dancers >who are interested in collaborating in this sort of thing. [. . .] Surely a drag. However, in order to write a grant proposal (or application) you must have certain people around you willing to do a project, don't you? Are there dancers in your area that are used to the kind of work you do and would readily collaborate? More importantly do you want to work with them ? ;) >Summary: it's almost impossible to come up with a team to perform, let >alone make video work. Even if a video were done, it would not look good. >To make it look good would take money. There's no money because the Arts >Council isn't giving me any, certainly not for alleged "promotional" >purposes. Well understood. On the VL1m's: >(Of course, if I were to buy one, Yamaha would come out with >a cheaper and better version. If I don't, they won't.) ObContent: A Rothwellian Corollary of Acquisition. -john ---------------------------------------------------------------------- JKRIKAWA@CCIT.Arizona.Edu Tucson, Arizona homepage-less day: (520) 626-6013 night: (520) 326-3068 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:16:00 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Peter Mueller Subject: Re[2]: hi there!!! Comments: To: haeckerh@OSPREY.NWRC.GOV >or anything about the legalities of sampling music that is not your >own. Well, a basic guidline is, unless you have permission from the copyright holder (and no, to have copyright protection something does not need to be registered, or have that little circled c, it just needs to exhist in a fixed form, i.e. notated, recorded, whatever) is don't. Remember, everytime you here one of those songs that has a sampled 1 second James Brown yell on the radio, James Brown is getting a check. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:57:56 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Our last, best hope for funding [Re: Look, Ma, No Keyboard!] >Regarding the VL1m... Yamaha is coming out with a half-rack VL70m that >does a single voice for $650US. Supposed to be very good. Oh. That saves me some money. (*Half*-rack? Bizzaro.) Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL contemporary dance projects http://www.cassiel.com music synthesis and control years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:58:18 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Our last, best hope for funding >Remember, a video demo for you is equally a demo for the dancers. But that doesn't explain why they aren't interested. This was my original slant as well - what self-respecting dancer or choreographer wouldn't want the chance to get something on video for their own purposes - but the more I asked around and tried to attract interest, the more the dancers I talked to just drifted away. Actually, the intelligent dancers are into it and we're talking, but that's a small proportion of the total. >Since >the expense of a decent three camera shoot was only "slightly >frightening" to you, then splitting the cost with the choreographer and >dancers (and possibly a talented but fledgeling video company that needs >a demo) should reduce the scare factor somewhat. Choreographers - perhaps. Dancers - no chance. I've been putting out feelers to fledgeling video companies/film-makers, and that's definitely the way to go. >Besides, if there isn't >a table in the lobby at your performances where people sell Cassiel >videos (and T-shirts, CDs, cassettes, beer steins, buttons, and whatever >else you can think of), then you're not making full use of your audience's >capacity to consume. I'm in total agreement with you. Apart from anything else, any buttons, badges, CD's with the CASSIEL name on them are going to be seen/heard/worn elsewhere and hence serve as advertising. The problem is really one of critical mass: last year's Fringe show would have been good for this but we were totally out of funds after the marketing costs and it's difficult to get someone decent front-of-house who'll push things. Getting someone hopeless is surprisingly easy. This year, the total bolloxing of the regional funding structures in the UK mean that there's no money around for anything except the Opera, the Ballet, and the friends of the Arts Council. (I'd better stop saying that. Five years from now they'll get online, do a web search and read this stuff.) A pleasure as always, Bill. Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL contemporary dance projects http://www.cassiel.com music synthesis and control years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:21:16 -0600 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Jonathan Rooke Subject: Re: EMUSIC-L Digest - 1 Jul 1996 to 2 Jul 1996 In-Reply-To: <199607020500.BAA25845@atlanta.american.edu> > > Regarding the VL1m... Yamaha is coming out with a half-rack VL70m that > does a single voice for $650US. Supposed to be very good. > > Tom Ritchford tom@mvision.com, tom@weirdos.com > > Verge's "Little Idiot" -- Music for the mentally peculiar. > 1-800-WEIRDOS http://www.weirdos.com/verge Not only that...I read somewhere (I can't quite remember - Sound on Sound from the U.K., I think) that Yamaha is making a VL1m daughtercard for SB type soundcards. Guess how much. Would a couple hundred bucks be low enough to shock you? The Yamaha representative interviewed compared it to when Yamaha released the DX-7, a $1500 dollar version of a $10,000 product. Jonathan Rooke ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:00:42 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Alan M. Bookmiller" Subject: Millennium passing... Hi list members... Any thoughts on the rapidly approaching passing of another millennium and it's affect on today's music and design in general? Seems to me that groundlessness is too prevalent in music of late, and design is stagnant. Doom and gloom types are having a party (all consuming earthquakes and volcanoes are the favorite predictions). Just wondering if there are any enlightening comments to be shared before we are blown to hell with our synths. Alan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:33:47 -1100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Tim Robinson Subject: Re: Millennium passing... The millenium, like the international dateline, is of no political or cultural significance. Tim Robinson, (tim@liro.fri.cri.nz) \ L ogging \ LIRO Ltd, PO Box 2244, \ I ndustry \ Rotorua, New Zealand \ R esearch \ Ph. 0064-7-3487-168 Fax. 0064-7-3462-886 \ O rganisation \ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Millennium passing... Author: "Alan M. Bookmiller" at tawa Date: 02/7/96 07:00 AM Hi list members... Any thoughts on the rapidly approaching passing of another millennium and it's affect on today's music and design in general? Seems to me that groundlessness is too prevalent in music of late, and design is stagnant. Doom and gloom types are having a party (all consuming earthquakes and volcanoes are the favorite predictions). Just wondering if there are any enlightening comments to be shared before we are blown to hell with our synths. Alan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:35:38 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Re: Millennium passing... Hi Alan... > Doom and gloom types are having a party (all consuming earthquakes and > volcanoes are the favorite predictions). Just wondering if there are any > enlightening comments to be shared before we are blown to hell with our > synths. This is the time of the century when there is a marked increase in books, newspaper articles and conference papers with the words "fin de siecle" in them. Anyone else notice that? I'm still waiting to see a music mag article with the phrase it though! How about it, Nick, Mike or Nick? Regards, David musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au http://I'm_not_that_hip_yet P.S. I tend to think that the doom and gloom will be somewhat offset by the amount of argument about when the century ends... 31 Dec 1999 or 31 Dec 2000! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:04:06 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City Subject: Re: Our last, best hope for funding In-Reply-To: <9607011300.AA24384@acropolis> from "wbf@ALOFT.ATT.COM" at Jul 1, 96 09:00:32 am wbf@ALOFT.ATT.COM writes-- > >Maybe there should be a different list discussing how to market music, but >until then, I hope people don't mind the business aspects of making >music being discussed on emusic-l. Now where's my free Team Metlay - >Ballistic T-shirt? ;-) It's not something I'd like to have overwhelm the usual stuff, but an occasional mention doesn't hurt, especially when discussed in a context like arts funding or other non-traditional paths to fame and fortune. As for your second query: dude, don't I wish. *sigh* mike -- Eno's music is SUPPOSED to be wallpaper. But not everyone has to like the pattern. (suzanne traub-metlay) ========================================================================== Mike Metlay - ATOMIC CITY - P. O. Box 81175, Pittsburgh, PA 15217-0675 USA = atomic@netcom.com -- http://pd.net/atomic-city -- 800.924.ATOM = CD orders via LOFTY PURSUITS: 800.548.6724 & 904.385.6463, FAX 904.668.5825 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:05:50 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City Subject: Re: lists/newsgroups for acoustics/studio construction? In-Reply-To: from "David Crandall" at Jul 1, 96 03:45:11 pm David Crandall writes-- > >A bit off-topic, but I'm moving to a new apartment and have to do some >"acoustical massage" on what will be my project studio. What are the best >lists, newsgroups, web sites, etc. for info/advice on building bass traps, >etc.? My advice would be to try rec.audio.pro, and to spend a few bucks on past and current issues of the magazine I work for, which appears to be the only one actively promoting do-it-yourself studio construction with an eye toward real results rather than feel-goodism. Shutting up before I walk into a major-league conflict of insterest, mike -- Eno's music is SUPPOSED to be wallpaper. But not everyone has to like the pattern. (suzanne traub-metlay) ========================================================================== Mike Metlay - ATOMIC CITY - P. O. Box 81175, Pittsburgh, PA 15217-0675 USA = atomic@netcom.com -- http://pd.net/atomic-city -- 800.924.ATOM = CD orders via LOFTY PURSUITS: 800.548.6724 & 904.385.6463, FAX 904.668.5825 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:13:37 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City Subject: Re: hi there!!! In-Reply-To: <199607020829.EAA13310@jericho.american.edu> from "Zamudio, Vincent" at Jul 2, 96 01:28:00 am Zamudio, Vincent writes-- > >hello to everyone, my name is vince and i am a new subscriber to this >list. i just wanted to introduce myself and to ask if anyone knows >anything about "sampling" music (via electronic samplers) or anything >about the legalities of sampling music that is not your own. please >write back as soon as you can. thank you.... Welcome, Vince. As has been pointed out here already, the only legal way to sample anything that's not yours is to ask the person who recorded it, pay for it, and then use it. And continue paying for it, if it's licensed as such. The exceptions are materials provided license-free: some (BUT NOT ALL) sample CDs, and recordings specifically labeled by the owners as being reusable (that do not themselves contain material that's protected). let me mention two examples of these exceptions: In a story that's now famous, Jeff Rona, in working with Hans Zimmer on the TOYS soundtrack, used a sample CD to create a "musical suit" for Robin Williams. He figured he bought the CD, so he could use the samples on it whenever he wanted, right? Wrongo! The CD manufacturer sued the studio for using their sounds without paying a license fee. I don't know how the case was resoved. But let it be a lesson: look for the words LICENSE-FREE on your CDs. Negativland (a story in themselves where sampling and copyright are concerned) allow copying of some of their CDs....but the material on it may be illegal to copy. For instance, the CD 'negativconcertland' is supposedly copyable, but God help you if you use a part that has any of the Casey Kasem voice-tracks they stole from him. The band is curently fighting a legal battle over the concept of 'fair use', but don't let that contest lull you into thinking you can get away with stealing. And then we get into the issue of "plunderphonics," where sampled material is maninpulated into entirely new forms, and where to draw the line on what's old and what's new, and my migraine kicks in.... mike -- Eno's music is SUPPOSED to be wallpaper. But not everyone has to like the pattern. (suzanne traub-metlay) ========================================================================== Mike Metlay - ATOMIC CITY - P. O. Box 81175, Pittsburgh, PA 15217-0675 USA = atomic@netcom.com -- http://pd.net/atomic-city -- 800.924.ATOM = CD orders via LOFTY PURSUITS: 800.548.6724 & 904.385.6463, FAX 904.668.5825 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:35:52 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City Subject: Re: Millennium passing... In-Reply-To: from "Alan M. Bookmiller" at Jul 2, 96 07:00:42 am Alan M. Bookmiller writes-- > >Hi list members... > >Any thoughts on the rapidly approaching passing of another millennium and >it's affect on today's music and design in general? Seems to me that >groundlessness is too prevalent in music of late, and design is stagnant. >Doom and gloom types are having a party (all consuming earthquakes and >volcanoes are the favorite predictions). Just wondering if there are any >enlightening comments to be shared before we are blown to hell with our >synths. I'm going to be far too busy getting set up for Team Metlay's sixth album to be worrying about stuff like that, sorry. While the masses celebrate the millennium all around the world, we'll probably be buried in some studio somewhere sorting out cable runs.... "Bloody hell, that's knackered the Studio 7LXX again." "And the PowerNewton's rebooting itself again, too. Bad AC cord?" "Probably. Trace it and swap out the K3000's wart, would someone?" "I got it...hang on a sec." "Where's this cable go?" "That's the mic preamp feed for the transducer on the Kephrex." "Righty ho." "Has anyone looked at the rear panel on this thing? Evil wrongheadedness." "Oh, MAJOR winnitude. Blinky lights and everything! Lovely." "OOF! Okay, that's another patchbay wired...ten to go." "Hey! Hey, guys! It's midnight!" "It's what?" "The ball just dropped. It's the dawn of the third Millennium!" [pause] "...hand me another AC line, that one's got gaffa all over it." "MMPH! Nine to go..." "Studio 7LXX's still pining for the fjords..." "Can I ask a question here? Are we fucked?" mike -- Eno's music is SUPPOSED to be wallpaper. But not everyone has to like the pattern. (suzanne traub-metlay) ========================================================================== Mike Metlay - ATOMIC CITY - P. O. Box 81175, Pittsburgh, PA 15217-0675 USA = atomic@netcom.com -- http://pd.net/atomic-city -- 800.924.ATOM = CD orders via LOFTY PURSUITS: 800.548.6724 & 904.385.6463, FAX 904.668.5825 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:37:52 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City Subject: Re: Millennium passing... In-Reply-To: <01I6MSUIK6H88WZXER@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU> from "David Rodger" at Jul 3, 96 10:35:38 am David Rodger writes-- > >This is the time of the century when there is a marked increase in books, >newspaper articles and conference papers with the words "fin de siecle" >in them. Anyone else notice that? > >I'm still waiting to see a music mag article with the phrase it though! >How about it, Nick, Mike or Nick? Not in MY magazine, thankewveddymuch. BTW, Nick B. isn't reading SYNTH-L any more. He has a very low tolerance for S/N ratio shifts. Besides, didn't JMJarre already have a piece called "fin de Siecle?" mike -- Eno's music is SUPPOSED to be wallpaper. But not everyone has to like the pattern. (suzanne traub-metlay) ========================================================================== Mike Metlay - ATOMIC CITY - P. O. Box 81175, Pittsburgh, PA 15217-0675 USA = atomic@netcom.com -- http://pd.net/atomic-city -- 800.924.ATOM = CD orders via LOFTY PURSUITS: 800.548.6724 & 904.385.6463, FAX 904.668.5825 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:47:00 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Dominikus Forcht <100142.2656@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: Millennium passing Alan M. Bookmiller spend a great message >....Doom and gloom types are having a party.... Dear Alan, Really - the best message one could post. Just, the date we looking is not a deadline. Please note that I was in a position like you already 1954, and 1959 I created the theory for universal composing per Intellect. All these years until now I am the "once only" (it seems) who know about this "Aladdin's magic lamp" to enrich kinds of music, although I try hard and some time furious to gain any of interest to realize the project. Maybe we have to wait 40 years more. If I understand you right, you initialize opening musicians as well as employers in the metier of music instruments, for "more" of music in future. This - I think - affects theory and technology. Well, a ready musician has much interest in music technology. His imagined tunes, sounds and rhythms do not need (hi think) a theory. On the other hand, employers in music technology seems to be without imagination for new kinds of music.... Please tell me if you are ready to spend a look into the study created in the past months, free available for all. Just let me know whether you want the paper (78 pg.) or the file as an enclosure of an e-mail. (The file is an output of WINWORD 6.0 consisting of 315 Kbytes, UUencoded 441 Kbytes). Other, you contact me over one of the addresses given below. Greetings! Dominikus Forcht house: Stresemannstrasse 36, D-71634 Ludwigsburg letters: Postfach 402, D-71604 Ludwigsburg phone: +49 7141 920974 fax: +49 7141 903481 e-mail CompuServe 100142,2656 or via INTERNET: 100142.2656@compuserve.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:29:22 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Alan M. Bookmiller" Subject: Re: Millennium passing... >The millenium, like the international dateline, is of no political or >cultural significance. > >Tim Robinson, (tim@liro.fri.cri.nz) \ L ogging \ >LIRO Ltd, PO Box 2244, \ I ndustry \ >Rotorua, New Zealand \ R esearch \ >Ph. 0064-7-3487-168 Fax. 0064-7-3462-886 \ O rganisation \ Not so Tim. According to Dianne H. Pilgrim, National Museum of Design, Smithsonian Institution (USA), "The prospect of the new millennium raises and heightens expectations of change - change that will permeate every aspect of our lives." The notion of the century as a temporal frame for historic change is commonplace modern thought. Lets think about the dematerialization of products as an outcome of electronic digital technologies - external reality is becoming less clear. A blending of the external and internal, reality and spiritualism, is becoming the new focus. >From this comes new visions, and an ever expanding view regarding how we will create. How will we deal with the new virtual ecology? Come on, the future is near! Alan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:54:15 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Our last, best hope for funding >From Nick: > >Remember, a video demo for you is equally a demo for the dancers. > > But that doesn't explain why they aren't interested. This was my original > slant as well - what self-respecting dancer or choreographer wouldn't want > the chance to get something on video for their own purposes - but the more > I asked around and tried to attract interest, the more the dancers I talked > to just drifted away. Actually, the intelligent dancers are into it and > we're talking, but that's a small proportion of the total. Maybe these dancers' thought processes (is that an oxymoron?) predominate in one hemisphere or they have never educated themselves on the business aspects of Art. I'm sure that (tongue being inserted firmly into cheek) you're overjoyed at the prospect of educating these dancers on why it would be good for them to have a demo video. ;-) > This year, the total bolloxing of the > regional funding structures in the UK mean that there's no money around for > anything except the Opera, the Ballet, and the friends of the Arts Council. > (I'd better stop saying that. Five years from now they'll get online, do a > web search and read this stuff.) Oops! Too late. Your words are archived. But even if Arts Council folks come on line in as little as five years, how long will it take them to learn how to surf? And how much longer after that will they leave behind what they know and actually look at a music list's archive? > A pleasure as always, Bill. Thanks. I do hope to at least entertain when unable to add relevance. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:01:17 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Millennium passing... >From Alan Bookmiller: > Any thoughts on the rapidly approaching passing of another millennium and > it's affect on today's music and design in general? I wonder if any musicologist has studied musical trends around the turn of the century? Maybe emusic will become mainstream in the next millennium. THEN what will we do? ;-) >From Tim Robinson: > The millenium, like the international dateline, is of no political or > cultural significance. But the religious fanatics will have a field day! >8^} >From David Roger: > P.S. I tend to think that the doom and gloom will be somewhat offset by the > amount of argument about when the century ends... 31 Dec 1999 or 31 Dec 2000! Since the first year was 1 and not 0, then this century ends on 31 Dec 2000. (Why do you think the movie was called 2001: A Space Odyssey? Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:49:15 +0200 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Simon R. van Roekel" Subject: Sys-ex commands for the digitech studio quad. Anyone has the sysex commands list for the Dig. Studio quad? 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In-Reply-To: <9607021329.AA16863@rauris.kapsch.co.at> from "Ullrich Peter" at Jul 2, 96 03:29:45 pm Ullrich Peter writes-- > >>When I bought my used 128 used, I got the city for Digitech off the machine, >>called information and got a phone number, and much to my surprise, the nice >>lady at Digitech hand copied the manual for me and mailed it to me at no >>charge. You might give it a try. >> >> >Thanks for the info. I tried to fax to Digitech USA but all I heard was that >I have to dial the extension - but no extension is mentioned for the fax on >the webpage... > >Do you know the fax extension ? It's 1-801-566-7005 in the USA, you'll need to prefix that if you call from outside the country. mike -- Eno's music is SUPPOSED to be wallpaper. But not everyone has to like the pattern. (suzanne traub-metlay) ========================================================================== Mike Metlay - ATOMIC CITY - P. O. Box 81175, Pittsburgh, PA 15217-0675 USA = atomic@netcom.com -- http://pd.net/atomic-city -- 800.924.ATOM = CD orders via LOFTY PURSUITS: 800.548.6724 & 904.385.6463, FAX 904.668.5825 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 05:20:19 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Alan M. Bookmiller" Subject: Re: Millennium passing... "Oh, MAJOR winnitude. Blinky lights and everything! Lovely." "OOF! Okay, that's another patchbay wired...ten to go." "Hey! Hey, guys! It's midnight!" "It's what?" "The ball just dropped. It's the dawn of the third Millennium!" [pause] "...hand me another AC line, that one's got gaffa all over it." "MMPH! Nine to go..." "Studio 7LXX's still pining for the fjords..." "Can I ask a question here? Are we fucked?" Very funny Mike! I just hope we get to hear our comp tape before the sky falls in on us. Alan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:19:14 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nathanael W Berry Subject: Re: Millennium passing... >P.S. I tend to think that the doom and gloom will be somewhat offset by the >amount of argument about when the century ends... 31 Dec 1999 or 31 Dec 2000! > More confusion then argument IMO. I remember by the "old" method of stating the date "in the XXXX year of our Lord", which implies the year aint passed until its over. It is amazing that we (as society) can define something such as a date system, then attach so much significance to the numbers of the system we defined. Other calendars (also human defined) are cruising along without an obvious effect! I think the worst thing that will happen may be before the end of the century/millennium, when older computer programs that deal with the date as a two digit entity wrap (eg 99,00...). Hopefully their owners are aware. On the music front, the current times are ALWAYS viewed dead, not happening, etc. to a significant portion of the community. I heard a review on NPR expounding upon the general decay of musical originality, composition, and orchestration, and in particular one artist...Mozart. The writer(s) (of Mozart's time) obviously did not forsee the future recognition that Mozart would attain. A couple hundred years from now, some relatively obscure artist may be tops, and these times will be added to the "good old days". Who knows? The volume of "music" available today may require one to look a bit deeper for the gems. my 2 cents Nate ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:01:59 -1100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Tim Robinson Subject: Re[2]: Millennium passing... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Millennium passing... Author: "Alan M. Bookmiller" at tawa Date: 02/7/96 10:29 PM According to Dianne H. Pilgrim, National Museum of Design, Smithsonian Institution (USA), "The prospect of the new millennium raises and heightens expectations of change - change that will permeate every aspect of our lives." ** "Change that will permeate every aspect of our lives" happens all the time: it has nothing to do with the millenium. I suspect the strongest feeling this millenium is releif at having got there at all! The notion of the century as a temporal frame for historic change is commonplace modern thought. ** "Commonplace" is hardly a recommendation - look at astrology. ** Anyway, those who *do* use centuries in this way do not stick to the letter of the law. For many historians, the sixteenth century started in 1492, the twentieth in 1916. Lets think about the dematerialization of products as an outcome of electronic digital technologies - external reality is becoming less clear. A blending of the external and internal, reality and spiritualism, is becoming the new focus. From this comes new visions, and an ever expanding view regarding how we will create. ** Yeah, but what has this to do with the millennium? How will we deal with the new virtual ecology? Come on, the future is near! ** The future is *now*. There is nothing special about the end of the century. Tim Robinson, (tim@liro.fri.cri.nz) \ L ogging \ LIRO Ltd, PO Box 2244, \ I ndustry \ Rotorua, New Zealand \ R esearch \ Ph. 0064-7-3487-168 Fax. 0064-7-3462-886 \ O rganisation \ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:40:33 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Alan M. Bookmiller" Subject: Re: More Thoughts On The Millennium passing... David Writes: >This is the time of the century when there is a marked increase in books, >newspaper articles and conference papers with the words "fin de siecle" >in them. Anyone else notice that? Yes I have noticed this. Here it's very prevalent on the tube, especially public broadcasting. Lately it seems about once a week we get some kind of program concerning apocalyptic prophecy. Nate Berry astutely writes: Other calendars (also human defined) are cruising along without an obvious effect! Nate, according to preeminent scholar Norman Cohn, the raw materials for the first revolutionary millennarian movements in the Middle Ages were ancient Jewish and later Christian prophecies. Historically the Jews were the first to believe themselves the chosen people of one god and thus elected for salvation. Christian eschatology - the theological study of last things - is embedded in the literal notion of the second coming of Christ, and a final state of perfection. From these two belief systems has developed a generic millenarian framework - the endurance of extreme suffering and upheaval to be followed by a state of peace, joy and serentity. A consoling and controlling strategy for the desperate and disenfranchised. It's been repeated over and over again throughout history. Millennarian movements do cluster around dates with multiple zeros. I definitely think society in general is affected by this movement today. Nate also writes; "On the music front, the current times are ALWAYS viewed dead, not happening, etc. to a significant portion of the community. I think this is true to a certain extent, but what's happening on the music scene today is different. The majority of music today is groundless. Take a look at the names of the bands - that says enough. More BS later Regards Alan "What's dark and knocks at the door?" "The future." ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:32:02 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Millennium passing... >Any thoughts on the rapidly approaching passing of another millennium and >it's affect on today's music and design in general? Seems to me that >groundlessness is too prevalent in music of late, and design is stagnant. Absolutely. And notice how the "retro" fashions are spinning in ever tighter and tighter loops (1950's ... 60's ... 70's ... 80's ...). I certainly think there's a lack of forward-thinking as the millenium puts up a subconscious barrier which scares people and prevents them thinking long-term. It's a hassle working in the Arts at the moment. This all occurred to me a while ago, and I coined the term "Millenium Malaise." Perhaps I should be more trendy and call it "Malaise 2000." Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL contemporary dance projects http://www.cassiel.com music synthesis and control years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:57:24 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Marge Rosen Subject: Re: Best Equipment In a message dated 96-06-06 04:28:09 EDT, you write: << I'd like some advice as to the best keyboard synth currently available for $999 US. I am involved with a project to bring this technology into a high >> My best advice, as a music educator, is to find out what vendors have contracts with your school district. Then contact a representative and ask what they have in your price range. Have the rep bring examples for you to try ( maybe have some of your students try them out, too), then make your decision. Good luck!! ~~ Marge ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:04:14 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Dave Rosborough Subject: Re: Millennium passing... >cruising along without an obvious effect! I think the worst thing that will >happen may be before the end of the century/millennium, when older computer >programs that deal with the date as a two digit entity wrap (eg 99,00...). >Hopefully their owners are aware. Says who? Only us fortunate Mac users are going to be so lucky... I believe most Intel-standard boxes aren't even going to be able to cope with that, I think they'll revert to some date in the 70's or something... Anyone remember exactly what it was that was going to happen to them? TTYL DaveR _____________________________________________________________ David Rosborough Web Author, Database Designer @ Faculty of Education, SFU Apple Education Consultant @ SFU drosboro@sfu.ca http://www.educ.sfu.ca/people/DavidR/ _____________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:33:45 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Our last, best hope for funding [Re: Look, Ma, No Keyboard!] >Expense didn't occur to me and wrongly so. Several of the people I enjoy >working with are video artists and have free or low cost access to near >broadcast quality equipment, so I'm somewhat surrounded by a sense >of disregard for the cost of professional services. Nice. On the other hand, maybe I should just blow a wad and go pick up a modern camcorder just to get stuff on tape that I can show people. It's all a case of pitching stuff properly. >However, in order to write a grant proposal (or application) >you must have certain people around you willing to do a project, don't >you? Sort of, but it's more complicated than that, due to the politics. It's tricky to get anyone to commit to anything without the money in place, and it's tricky to get money in place without commitment from performers (and that actually doesn't help properly). What actually scores is Big Names. So, I'm currently courting the Big Names. So much for the indigenous Scottish scene. >On the VL1m's: >>(Of course, if I were to buy one, Yamaha would come out with >>a cheaper and better version. If I don't, they won't.) > >ObContent: A Rothwellian Corollary of Acquisition. Pretty much. Glancing round, I see that practically everything I've bought over the last year has been end-of-line stuff that I didn't want to see vanish without a trace: R-8MkII (extinct), good-condition DMP7 (extinct), Peavey QFX 4x4 (extinct), second Wavestation A/D (extinct). I consider the VL1-m to be endangered. I'm a softie for good causes. Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL contemporary dance projects http://www.cassiel.com music synthesis and control years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:32:52 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Millennium passing... >I'm going to be far too busy getting set up for Team Metlay's sixth album >to be worrying about stuff like that, sorry. We gonna call it MILLENIUM BOMB then? >"Can I ask a question here? Are we fucked?" "Performer version 14 installation. Insert CD-ROM #1 of 97, press ENTER when ready." Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL contemporary dance projects http://www.cassiel.com music synthesis and control years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:32:18 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Millennium passing... >P.S. I tend to think that the doom and gloom will be somewhat offset by the >amount of argument about when the century ends... 31 Dec 1999 or 31 Dec 2000! Actually, since every computer in the world is going to fall over then, people's minds will be somewhat distracted. Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL contemporary dance projects http://www.cassiel.com music synthesis and control years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:54:17 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Fred Wehr Subject: Re: lists/newsgroups for acoustics/studio construction? If you can get a hold of it, there is a good short treatment of soundproofing and home studio acoustics in a book called "Creative Recording III: Acoustics, Soundproofing and Monitoring", by Paul White, published in the UK by Music Maker Books. It's part of a series of three IMHO indispensible books on home studio recording. Good luck. Fred Wehr ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:07:21 EDT Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Sillyme <102465.41@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: Costs on Nord Equipment Comments: To: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City As a list member I see SOLICITED requests as VERY valid since most slick adverts in very accessable pubs like Keyboard, EM and the like (the ones one can read for free at the local text outlet) play up magic features of new gear to no end and then tell you to see your local dealer(who if you have one may very well be an a??hole) for prices and such. So yeah, keep Kevin and the Spam-heads away from us, but economic data relating to the very gear we treasure (or curse) is just as important as Sysex or whatever.... I guess I'll be taking the last Train Back to Lurksville now... Thanks for the NORD info!!!!! Just to stay on topic... What do any of you tell your friends/associates who are very avid about the arts/music but who are very distrustful of E-music as an artform/genre in itself and see it only as an encroachment or attempt to steal yet another joib description for the MACHINE!!! I say "Get a life.... No, I mean one with perspective." And then there's this Bob Dylanesque character staring back at me and I just wanna stuff a kazoo in his mouth or a thermin up his............. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:18:18 +0200 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Ullrich Peter Subject: Re: Urgent: Usermanual for DIGITECH DSP 128 Plus needed ! Hi Mike ! >>Do you know the fax extension ? > >It's 1-801-566-7005 in the USA, you'll need to prefix that if you call from >outside the country. The prefix was clear - I really heard a voice modem saying, that I need an extension to dial through... No automatic switching to a fax as it is common in our country... Thank you very much ! Ciao, Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto: ullrich@kapsch.co.at Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:30:24 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Re: Millennium passing... Hi Bill... >Since the first year was 1 and not 0, then this century ends on 31 Dec >2000. I know that, but just you wait for the arguments! Hey, isn't it becuase the first year _is_ zero and then it's one? Until one year has elapsed we can't properly call it one! I'd better stop this before Joe or Mike flame me for no ObEmCon! Regards, David musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:36:06 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Re: Millennium passing... WHoops, Bill WAS RIGHT! 1 is called 1, 99 is called 99 and we have to wait till the end of 100 for 100 years to have passed (i.e. for a century to have finished). Mildly diverted, David musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:42:33 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Re: More Thoughts On The Millennium passing... Hi Alan, could you please explain what exactly constitutes "ground" in music? Regards, David musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:17:54 -0600 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Allen Hall Subject: Keyboard technique I don't know most of what you guys are talking about most of the time (except millenia) although I enjoy some of it. Does anybody know of a site that discusses keyboard techniques (styles, fingering all that stuff) as applied to keyboard pop and jazz? I got a (don't laugh) Casio CT-670. Thanx. Allen Hall Fumbling keyboardist ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:57:30 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Jeff Adkins Subject: Re: More Thoughts On The Millennium passing... Alan M. Bookmiller wrote: >Nate also writes; "On the music front, the current times are ALWAYS viewed >dead, not happening, etc. to a significant portion of the community. > >I think this is true to a certain extent, but what's happening on the music >scene today is different. The majority of music today is groundless. Take a >look at the names of the bands - that says enough. What do you mean by "groundless," and what kind of time frame do you have in mind by "music today"? Also, what band names did you have in mind that might illustrate your point? (I'm interested because I'm currently trying to come up with or settle on a name for a band.) --Jeff Our walking is in time And our dazzling bodies Have paces ineffable That leave their prints in fables . . . . --Paul Valery ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:12:47 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Lonnie E. Moseley" Subject: Re: Keyboard technique Allen, If you find a group that supports keyboard technique, would you share it? I am also a "fumbling keyboardist" and would enjoy talking to other individuals trying to understand and improve technique. Lonnie Moseley LEMoseley@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:55:06 -0600 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Allen Hall Subject: Re: Keyboard technique At 09:12 7/4/96 -0400, you wrote: >Allen, > >If you find a group that supports keyboard technique, would you share it? I sure will. I didn't know my message had even been posted since I didn't receive a copy. Anyway, as you probably know there is a newsgroup called rec.music.classical.performing that occasionally has something relevant but it applies to all instruments and, when referring to piano techniques, it is only in the classical mode. I haven't had any other replies yet but will let you know when I do. > > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:07:36 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nathanael W Berry Subject: Re: Millennium passing... >> when older computer >>programs that deal with the date as a two digit entity wrap (eg 99,00...). > >Says who? Only us fortunate Mac users are going to be so lucky... I >believe most Intel-standard boxes aren't even going to be able to cope with >that, I think they'll revert to some date in the 70's or something... >Anyone remember exactly what it was that was going to happen to them? > Most computers - even lowly PCs - usually keep dates as an offset from a particular date embedded in the operating system (or at least standardized in the OS). This is where the "Jan 1, 1981" (I think) on (PC) system crash, dead clock battery, etc. comes from...the offset date. A 16 bit day counter provides about 175 years. There are a few schemes out there, but most of the problems have to do with application software or operating systems that do not correctly handle centuries. Often personel applications (in which pre 1981 dates are needed) are (were???(hope:)) the most grievous. On my Pentium PC with 3.11, setting the date to XX/XX/00 results in my calendar program showing the year 2000 - and LOTS of unfinnished tasks! To stay somewhat on topic - are there any synths/musical instruments that have clock calendar chips? Has the year been incorporated into any art such that handling it incorrectly will cause trouble (such as government tax programs which will probably claim an individual owes back taxes from 00 to the last two digits of their first tax filing date, eg. 79) For most computer music stuff with an XX year, files should not become confusing until we make it into the 2080s or so - then we'll have to figure out if that midi files was saved last year, or a hundred 'n one years ago (we will be able to chose our lifespan by then, no?). Will my Atari still be alive? Will we care? always willing and able to stand corrected... Nate ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:47:22 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Craig Marks Subject: David Baker Comments: cc: "Electronic music \"gearhead\" list" While cruising AOL last week, I ran across an ADAT Track sheet template for FileMaker Pro. It was designed by a guy named David Baker (screen name was d_a_baker1). I downloaded it because I needed something of the sort and it turns out he did a really good job! I want to use his template. Problem is, he gave it a password that prevents full access to the template. I've seen shareware people do this frequently. Anyway, I sent him an e-mail note to find out the details on the template as well as shareware costs,etc. According to AOL, he no longer exists. the mail was undeliverable! If any of you know how to get in touch with him, please let me know. Thanks. -Craig ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:14:06 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Kirk Hunter Subject: Re: Keyboard technique In-Reply-To: <9607040617.AA07886@wtpprod1.wtp.net> Have you tried http://www.fortnet.org/~marc/primer/ I can't vouch for the info, but seems rather interesting. On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Allen Hall wrote: > I don't know most of what you guys are talking about most of the time > (except millenia) although I enjoy some of it. > > Does anybody know of a site that discusses keyboard techniques (styles, > fingering all that stuff) as applied to keyboard pop and jazz? I got a > (don't laugh) Casio CT-670. > > Thanx. > > Allen Hall > Fumbling keyboardist > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:19:44 +0900 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Paul Findon Subject: Re: Millennium passing... Nate, Don't some Sony processors allow you to enter the date of your birthday and get a silly message when the big day comes around? Paul > To stay somewhat on topic - are there any synths/musical instruments >that have clock calendar chips? Has the year been incorporated into any art >such that handling it incorrectly will cause trouble (such as government tax >programs which will probably claim an individual owes back taxes from 00 to ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:05:51 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Millennium passing... >>Anyone remember exactly what it was that was going to happen to them? My Macs are fine: I've run them past Y2K to see what happens. My Psion 3a palmtop is fine too. I've no idea about Windows boxes in general. Windows NT is probably fine, except that the C/C++ runtimes are UNIX-based, and every UNIX box in the Universe will fall over on February 17th 2038 as the number of seconds since midnight, Jan 1st 1970 wraps a signed longword. Win NT applications abort. Unix applications rewind to the 1930's. Most GPS (global positioning) systems will abort early - mid-August 1999 - as their count of weeks since their epoch wraps a 10-bit field. Already, tins of corned beef in Marks & Spencers are being unexpectedly marked for disposal because they have apparently exceeded their sell-by date by almost a century (1/Jan/00). Various airlines are rumoured to be considering grounding all of their services over the Y2K boundary because they don't trust air traffic control or the onboard systems. If anyone reading is around 40 and versed in COBOL, your potential consultancy rates are currently skyrocketing. Are you going to put all your money in the bank in December 1999 (to capitalise on any accidental 100 years interest credit), or take it all out? Do you feel lucky? Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL contemporary dance projects http://www.cassiel.com music synthesis and control years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:06:20 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Nick Rothwell Subject: Re: Our last, best hope for funding >Maybe these dancers' thought processes (is that an oxymoron?) >predominate in one hemisphere or they have never educated themselves on >the business aspects of Art. At the risk of gross over-generalisation: I don't regard dancers as unintelligent; they are often very creative but generally not intellectual. I think it does come from being immersed in an art form which is so physical. When it comes to this kind of administrative planning, they can't keep up with me. Then again, when it comes to beer, I can't keep up with them. Each to his own, I guess. >But even if Arts Council >folks come on line in as little as five years, how long will it take them >to learn how to surf? More significantly, how much will it cost? Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL contemporary dance projects http://www.cassiel.com music synthesis and control years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:40:01 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Crandall Subject: Re: lists/newsgroups for acoustics/studio construction? In-Reply-To: <199607030505.WAA00344@netcom23.netcom.com> OK, sue me if I'm out of line, but since I think I've boiled my acoustics question down to a simple one, so I'll submit it here. Here goes: > David Crandall (that would be, "me") writes-- > >A bit off-topic, but I'm moving to a new apartment and have to do some > >"acoustical massage" on what will be my project studio... About a year ago in Electronic Musician (sorry, Mike) there was an article on building bass traps. These were flat 2'x 8' units designed to be built directly onto a wall. Would it work to build these units on sheets of "bara board" (sp?) which is like masonite only about 5/8"+ thick and used for subflooring? (Theaters use bara board on set floors since it mostly eliminates the big boomy footsteps you hear with plywood platforms.) It comes in 5'x 8' sheets, so the extra could make a nice lip for bolting through to the wall. I also wondered if they could be effective just leaned against the wall, since the resulting units would be pretty dang heavy. Anybody ever tried anything like this? In short, do bass traps have to be integrated into the architecture to work? Thanks and yes, MM, I do love your mag.