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Date:         Sat, 14 Sep 1996 05:03:00 GMT
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From:         "Glushenko, Dmitri" </DD.id=GLUS@TCO.INFONET.COM>
Subject:      HD recording on PPC Powerboox

Hi everybody,

The following message may be of interest to the group.

Dmitri
 ----------
From: Dave Rosborough
To:  GLUS

>Does anyone know if Mac PPC Powerbooks (5xxx series) have the same hard
disk
>recording capabilities (read: no additional hardware) as their desktop
peers? If they do, ...

Yep, they do.  Generally, with the 5300, you're only going to have the speed
to get about 4 tracks, though. Same sound hardware as on any of the other
powermacs - 16bit 44.1kHz. It sounds good. According to the literature I got
with Deck II 2.5, the 5300 is only likely to handle 4 tracks simultaneously.
 This is likely a reflection on the hard drive, as the processor is fast
enough to handle more than that.

>... the needs ARE pretty humble, and recording quality should not be real
SUPER.

Any of the current Powermac line (except maybe the PowerMac 5260 or 5400 -
check for 16-bit input) will do a great job for basic recording needs. The
same goes for the Powerbook 5300, if you don't need many simultaneous
tracks. The other thing to watch out for is that the 5300 hard disk is
pretty small,  you're going to need to buy another hard drive, or Jaz, or
SyJET or something to record onto, I think.

TTYL
DaveR

    _____________________________________________________________
     David Rosborough
        Web Designer and Internet Database Solutions Designer
           Apple Education Consultant
              Sales @ SFU Microcomputer Store
                 drosboro@sfu.ca
                    http://www.educ.sfu.ca/people/DavidR/
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Date:         Sat, 14 Sep 1996 06:51:07 GMT
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From:         Christian Roth <croth@POBOX.COM>
Organization: Christian Roth - film + musik -- private site
Subject:      Re: Continuing music education...
In-Reply-To:  <v02130503ae5e139dabf8@[204.56.70.149]>

On Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:38:12 -0400, "Alan M. Bookmiller"
<abook@PROXIMA.COM> wrote:

>The housefly hums in the middle octave, key of F.

Could you please be more specific? Our houseflies fail to do so.
They're playing the E, except when I feed my dog, then they have peaks
in G (at least :)
---
        Christian Roth

        film + musik, Austria
        croth@pobox.com
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Date:         Sat, 14 Sep 1996 09:54:25 -0400
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From:         James Pittman <stu931101@BOAZ.GCC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fly... -Reply

Does anyone know if there is a listserv dealing with MIDI (Musical Instrument
Digital Interface) ?

James Pittman
stu931101@gcc.edu
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Date:         Sat, 14 Sep 1996 12:20:19 -0400
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From:         Jonathan Klizas <jcklizas@BUTTERCUP.CYBERNEX.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fly... -Reply

At 09:54 AM 9/14/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if there is a listserv dealing with MIDI (Musical Instrument
>Digital Interface) ?
>
>James Pittman
>stu931101@gcc.edu
>

Hard to believe, but none that I am aware of. I've even queried the Listserv
search engines without any success.
If you aren't aware of the following: the Usenet function of the I'net is
where all the MIDI forums are located. Try alt.music.midi. There's also
alt.binaries.sounds.midi and comp.music.midi.
Harmony Central's Mailing List Archive at
http://harmony-central.mit.edu/cgi-bin/search-mail.pl has synth, some
software, effects and emusic's archives you can browse.
MIDI is VERY well represented on the web. You can try
http://www.midiweb.com, amongst many too numerous to list here, for starters.



Jonathan Klizas
jcklizas@cybernex.net
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Date:         Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:41:00 -0500
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From:         Michael Faulkner <Michael.Faulkner@MCI.COM>
Subject:      CDs for sale or trade

I have the following CDs for sale or trade:

Das Synthetische Mischgewebe - Interferences et Plus (French import) $18
(booklet and photograph)

UPD Compilation - Altered States of Conciousness (Japanese import)   $15
(Merzbow, Maschinenzimmer 412, Trance, Asmus Tietchens, PGR, Dissecting Table)

Pankow - Freiheit fuer die sklaven (Norwegian import)                $11

Front 242 - Geography (Belgian import)                               $11

Cabaret Voltaire - Groovy, Laidback, and Nasty (British import)      $10

Richard Kirk/Peter Hope - Hoodoo Talk                                $6

Pigface - Fook                                                       $6

Nitzer Ebb - Belief                                                  $6


Mike
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Date:         Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:29:02 +0100
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From:         robin <robin@VARUNA.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Music and the Brain...
In-Reply-To:  <3235D6E7.392C@dial.pipex.com>

In article <3235D6E7.392C@dial.pipex.com>, Andrew Whittle
<tah70@DIAL.PIPEX.COM> writes
>Hello everbody.
>I have written to this list to ask for some help.  I recall about 3
>monthd a go, when I was last on this list, and I remember a very long
>discussion on 'Music on the Brain' and I do believe that the discussion
>continued after I left the list.
>
>Could the people who actually emailed with comments on that discussion,
>if they are still members of EMUSIC-L, please come forward and tell me
>their theories on music on the brain.  I need a lot of theories or
>possible answers to what affect music has on the brain, or how humans
>actually determin the difference between music and just a noise, or how
>humans can tell the difference between different tunes, or even why
>humans enjoy listening to music.
>
>Could someone please reply to this email privately and please try to help
>me as quickly as possible.  If there are any scientists/biologists on
>this list, please could you email me on Andysmoke@dial.pipex.com to help
>me?
>
>Regards,
>
>Andrew Whittle, England
>
>--
>Andysmoke@dial.pipex.com
>http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/parade/tah70
>http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/5024
>
>"Computers aren't intelligent - they just think they are!"

I am interested in this subject too.  Would you mind forwarding what you
receive to me?

--
robin
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Date:         Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:45:48 -0400
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From:         David Crandall <dcrand1@GL.UMBC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Power Computing
Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list MAX <MAX@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
In-Reply-To:  <199608151928.PAA15865@ds1.gl.umbc.edu>

Apologies to those on both lists who'll get this twice.

On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Raviv Gazit wrote:

> I use Max 3.0 on a Power Computing 180. No problems.

What I want to know is, what are folks experiencing with Power Computing
machines using a NuBus card adapter?  Can one really combine PCI and NuBus
in the same machine?  I'm thinking of picking up a machine I can use for
ProTools Software and am interested in taking advantage of PCI, but there
are some products (i.e., Digidesign SampleCell/TurboSynth) that still use
NuBus (and may or may not migrate...).  And of course I'd like to know the
fate of Max in such a situation...

Thanks
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Date:         Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:32:21 -0400
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From:         James Pittman <stu931101@BOAZ.GCC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Power Computing

Can I ask a really stupid question?  What the heck is MAX?

James Pittman
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Date:         Tue, 17 Sep 1996 09:49:56 +0000
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Comments:     Authenticated sender is <harnden@physics.american.edu>
From:         "Eric Harnden (Ronin)" <harnden@PHYSICS.AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject:      neurophone

a week or so ago, a group of us evaluated something called the
"neurophone" for someone at the discovery channel doing a thing on
odd musical gimcracks. believe it or not, this device, and the
similar "grok box", are marketed as providing "neural" transduction of
music. the grok box is emblazoned with the logo "electric telepathy."
cute. i thought you might be interested.
_______

Narrative evaluation of the Neurophone and Grok Box.

I conducted this evaluation with my Friday afternoon electronic
music interest group, who I think may have actually giggled more
than I did. After determining that the devices were indeed
battery-powered (presumably internally switching to the DC adapter
sockets on the cases), we elected to test the Grok Box first, as it
had a niftier appearance. We provided sound input from the headphone
jack of a CD player, and, rather than going to the trouble of
donning the grotesque purple headband, simply applied the contacts
to Graham's arm. It was immediately apparent that the sound emanated
directly from the vicinity of the transducers, putting the notion of
any kind of "neural" transmission, or even of bone conduction,
firmly to rest. We attempted a variety of of contact points on
various bodies, including distributing the transducers to two
separate bodies, and even went so far as to place the contacts in a
shallow film of water held in a wide, thin plastic lid. The central
question we were trying to illuminate was whether the vibration we
were hearing was due to piezoelectric excitation of the transducers,
or simply to induction, and if the latter, whether the induced
motion was, again, in the transducers, or in the surface to which
they were applied. After several trials, we came to the following
conclusion: when the contacts are placed on any contiguous
conductive surface (as which salty, sweaty skin qualifies nicely), a
circuit is completed which allows current (probably modulated DC) to
induce motion in the metal contacts themselves (limited by their
size and means of mounting, which is pretty stiff), turning them
into small speakers. The best sound may be obtained by placing one
transducer against your ear and the other against your cheek or
nose, the latter simply performing the duty of on/off switch. I did
not attempt to improve the gain by using the higher conductivity of
my tongue as an alternative contact point. Finally, our concensus is
that the Grok Box is superior to the Neurophone in workmanship and
packaging. It works better, and looks cooler.
-------====<  Entropy Eventually Wins >====---------

                Eric Harnden (Ronin)
   (202)885-2746 ... harnden@physics.american.edu

---===< And I Like To Be On The Winning Side >===---
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Date:         Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:38:12 +0000
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From:         Andrew Whittle <tah70@DIAL.PIPEX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Music and the Brain...

robin wrote:
>
> In article <3235D6E7.392C@dial.pipex.com>, Andrew Whittle
> <tah70@DIAL.PIPEX.COM> writes
> >Hello everbody.
> >I have written to this list to ask for some help.  I recall about 3
> >monthd a go, when I was last on this list, and I remember a very long
> >discussion on 'Music on the Brain' and I do believe that the discussion
> >continued after I left the list.
> >
> >Could the people who actually emailed with comments on that discussion,
> >if they are still members of EMUSIC-L, please come forward and tell me
> >their theories on music on the brain.  I need a lot of theories or
> >possible answers to what affect music has on the brain, or how humans
> >actually determin the difference between music and just a noise, or how
> >humans can tell the difference between different tunes, or even why
> >humans enjoy listening to music.
> >
> >Could someone please reply to this email privately and please try to help
> >me as quickly as possible.  If there are any scientists/biologists on
> >this list, please could you email me on Andysmoke@dial.pipex.com to help
> >me?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Andrew Whittle, England
> >
> >--
> >Andysmoke@dial.pipex.com
> >http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/parade/tah70
> >http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/5024
> >
> >"Computers aren't intelligent - they just think they are!"
>
> I am interested in this subject too.  Would you mind forwarding what you
> receive to me?
>
> --
> robin

I would love to give you more info on this, but unfortunately, I've only
been given one set of theories and been told to search for the old set of
mails.  As you can see, I haven't had much feedback.

Regards,

Andy W.
--
Andysmoke@dial.pipex.com
http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/parade/tah70
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/5024

"Computers aren't intelligent - they just think they are!"
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Date:         Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:40:43 +0100
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From:         Martin Russ <mruss@MIDI.DUNGEON.COM>
Subject:      General FAQs V1.2 (last changed 17th July 1996)
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Warning: Long Document (373 lines, 2465 words, about 6 pages)--------------

EMUSIC-L and SYNTH-L Frequently Asked Questions: General

This document is posted very approximately every four weeks, or if it is
triggered by a question on one of the lists... It is intended that
this document should answer many of the questions regularly asked by
subscribers to the lists. Comments and corrections should be sent to the
maintainer, Martin Russ, at:

mruss@midi.dungeon.com

This is Issue 1.2. 7th July 1996.
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Changes since issue 1.1.:
- Minor corrections to the text.

TOPIC INDEX################################################################
- Max
- Soundcards
- Music mailing lists & Newsgroups
- Mac & PC
- Theremins
- FTP & HTTP

MAX########################################################################
"What is MAX, anyway?"#####################################################

MAX is a software toolkit which gives a real-time, interactive, graphical
development environment for multimedia, music (and more). Programs are
'written' by connecting together graphical objects, rather than typing
text. Typical applications for MAX include: Editors and Librarians for MIDI
equipment; Compositional Tools; Utilities for analysing musical
performance; and much more.

MAX is often mentioned in these lists. It currently exists in variants for
the Unix environment and on the Apple Macintosh, although a petition has
been mentioned within these lists for a Windows version (perhaps a port to
Windows of Symbolic Composer (also currently Mac only) - contact JOEL
STERN on 103675.1167@compuserve.com or Peter Stone on psto@xs4all.nl
for details.

For more information on the Macintosh version, you should try contacting
your nearest Opcode dealer. (Opcode distribute MAX for the Mac). Opcode
also have a World Wide Web page at :

http://www.opcode.com/

There is also a MAX listserv. Send a message to listserv@vm1.mcgill.ca with
a Subject of: Subscribe Max, and the message text:

SUBSCRIBE MAX <Your name>

You will then receive daily digests of postings to the MAX list.


SOUNDCARDS#################################################################
"Where do I find information on Soundcards?"###############################

Information on soundcards for personal computers can be found in the
following Usenet newsgroup(s)"

comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.GUS.


MUSIC MAILING LISTS & NEWSGROUPS###########################################
##"Anyone know a good MUSIC discussion group on <insert name here>?"#######

The best place for discussion of almost any group, band, artiste,
performer, musician (you get the idea), is the Usenet newsgroups. Try:

alt.fan.<insert name here>


##Is rec.audio.pro a list that one can subscribe to like SYNTH-L?##########

No. rec.audio.pro is a Usenet newsgroup, so you can't have it posted to you
via e-mail. You need to have a newsreader program to be able to read it, or
you may be able to dial in to a local BBS that carries Usenet newsgroups.
Newsreader programs can usually be set so that they 'subscribe' to a
specific newsgroup or groups, and then the end result is very like
subscribing to a mailing list - you can read the postings to the newsgroup.


##Is there a list which discusses recording & mixing techniques?###########

This subject is sometimes touched on in several mailing lists, including
SYNTH-L and Electronica.

There are also the Usenet newsgroups. The closest newsgroup is probably
rec.audio.pro.


##Where can I find out about Algorithmic Composition?######################

There's an algorithmic composition mailing list. Mail to

majordomo@serial.music.uiowa.edu

(no subject required) with the body of the message saying

subscribe algo-comp <your e-address>

(Checked Dec 95: OK: Martin Russ)


##So how do I post to a newsgroup via e-mail?##############################

You can use a mail-to-news gateway. Here's how you do it using the UTexas
gateway:

The 'To:' address should read xxx.xxxxx.xxxxxx.usenet@cs.utexas.edu, where
xxx.xxxxx.xxxxxx is the newsgroup name: eg. rec.music.makers.synth. The
resulting full address is this case would be:
rec.music.makers.synth.usenet@cs.utexas.edu

(Of course, you should really try to locate your nearest mail-to-news
gateway rather than just use the UTexas one!)


MAC & PC###################################################################
##Should I buy a PC or a Mac?##############################################

This topic has been known to escalate into savage flame wars. There is no
simple answer, but here are some pointers:

RULE NUMBER ONE: SOFTWARE

Find the software first, then THAT might make you decide which platform to
buy. Some software is available on only one platform. (Max on the Mac is
one example: there are counter-examples) Hard disk recording is often VERY
platform-specific.

RULE NUMBER TWO: VAPOURWARE

Buy based upon what you can get now (this instant), not based upon what
someone has promised will be available in the future.

RULE NUMBER THREE: OBSOLESCENCE

Whatever computer you buy will be almost instantly obsolete - and available
for less than you paid for it.

QUESTIONS TO CONSIDER

You may need to purchase more than just the computer.

-What are you going to hook it up to?  Synthesizers?  Samplers?

-Do you need a MIDI connection only, or will you want to use a SCSI
interface for sample transfer?

-If you are going to use a MIDI connection, how many MIDI devices do you
have? This will help you decide if you will want a single port or a
multi-port MIDI interface.

-Do you want to use a separate MIDI patch bay?

-Do you want to do MIDI sequencing only, or do you want to do digital audio
of any type?  This can be divided into simple sound file and sample
manipulation, and full multi-track song recording and editing...

-If you want to work with sound files, are you going to want an internal
sound card of some type or will you only work with "real"
external/dedicated samplers, such as Ensoniq, Kurzweil, Akai or Peavey?

-Do you plan to ever cut your own CDs with your own CD-R drive?  Actually,
there is good software for this on several different platforms. Some people
like the stuff for Linux...

-Do you want to do sequencing only, or do you want notation as well?  (Do
you understand the difference?)

-Are you going to use this computer for music only, or will you want to do
word processing/database/online services etc?

-Do you want to be able to use free/low cost software from the Net, or do
you only want commercial software?  Another way of wording this might be:
do you want a "turnkey" system that is already setup for you, or do you
want to roll up your sleeves, get in there and learn the insides?

-Do you think you might want to develop your own software?

-And, a really important question is, what do your friends and fellow
musicians use?  If you are going to collaborate on projects, you should
consider what the other people own, for better or worse... (But don't
forget MIDI Files!)

SPOILERS

Many programs are equivalent across the Mac and PC platforms. Many 'Mac'
developers, such as Opcode and Mark of the Unicorn, are now developing for
Windows, so their products are going to be very very similar across the two
platforms. Passport develop for both platforms, and the PC specific
developers,like Twelve Tone, are now developing for both platforms.

Plug 'n' Play PCI slots will not be standard on PCs until Pentium (+ Pro)
motherboards become common - but PCI is now supported by PC and Mac. As a
result, there is definitely not going to be as big a difference in setup
and use any more. You can buy turnkey setups of both PC and Mac...

Windows 95 and the Mac OS are both neat GUIs. Neither is perfect.

Windows on the PC and the Mac are each equally as painful to develop for in
their own way. BOTH have memory allocation problems.

If you ask anyone about Mac versus PC, you'll get answers from every
direction: mostly based on what people are familiar with or on their
opinions as to what computing should be.

So for what ever reason people use the computer they use, it is all
personal. Sort of like a Ford, "some people swear by them, and some swear
at them". It is all up to what you like and how you like to do it. Some
people use both Mac and PC equipment, depending on what the need is. This
is not to suggest that one should go out and buy both types of computers to
satisfy every need, but both formats have their ups and downs.

Keep an open mind.  Both platforms definitely have their strengths and
weaknesses. Neither is a clear winner.

Further reading?

The following web site contains lots of information regarding the Mac vs.
PC debate - it is biased, of course!

http://www.madmansdream.com/FairyTales/newpcTales2.toc.html

Craig Anderton's column in the April 1996 Issue of Keyboard magazine (US) has
a reasonable overview of the strengths and weakenesses of the Mac and PC.


##How do I move Standard MIDI Files from a Mac to a PC and vice-versa?#####

Just save the MIDI file onto PC disks instead of Mac disks.

Any Mac with an "FDHD" (high-density, 1.2M) disk drive can write onto DOS
floppies and read them - using Apple File exchange or PC Exchange. (The Mac
Plus, SE, and SE/30 do NOT have these drives). Macs running system 7.1 and
above have good native support for reading DOS disks. PC disk access may be
slow, and it is probably best to format the diskettes in the PC - some
people have had reliability problems with PC diskettes formatted in Macs.

As for using the files, the PC will just read them, but on the Mac, you'll
have to open the application up first - you can't just double click on the
file icon itself. If your application can't see the file, then you can look
around for one of the freeware pieces of software that can change the file
type and creator.

Of course, there is also the Mac 640CD Dos Compatible or one of the add-in
PC boards/cards. There have been reports of programs allowing DOS machines
to read Mac disks as well, but the reviews have been mixed, leaning toward
the negative.


THEREMINS##################################################################
##What's a Theremin?#######################################################

The theremin is one of the very first electronic musical instruments, and
yet is one of the most novel and original. It is played without being
touched. The theremin responds instantaneously and continuously to the
motions of the player's hands in the space surrounding it. The theremin
player uses one hand to control pitch, and the other to control volume. The
instrument's tone resembles that of a violin, cello, or human voice, but
has its own unique ethereal quality.

The theremin was first developed in 1920 by the Russian musician/physicist
Leon Theremin, and was originally produced in the United States in 1929 by
the Radio Corporation of America.

Currently, theremins are available from Big Briar, Bob Moog runs it (or at
least does the design) and they also have a MIDI-ized Theramin. They say:

"The Big Briar Series 91 theremins retain the timbre and playing
characteristics of Professor Theremin's designs, but use contemporary
digital and analog integrated circuit technology. The pitch range extends
from the lowest audible pitch to three octaves above middle C. A small
speaker is built in. Line-level audio, speaker, and pitch and volume
control voltage outputs are standard features. High-quality, hand-crafted
cabinets in three distinctive cabinet styles are available. Optional
accessories include road cases and a small external speaker."

For more information, contact Big Briar, Inc., 554-C Riverside Drive,
Asheville, NC 28801; tel. (800) 948-1990 or (704) 251-0090, fax (704)
254-6233. They will snail-mail you a much more informative leaflet (6 pages
or so, with pictures & reading list).

The MIDI theremin is pretty expensive (about $2K US) but sends out full
14-bit control messages for pitch bend (that's 16384 steps... you could
represent the entire piano keyboard, tuned down to the nearest cent or
hundredth of a semi-tone, with only 8800 steps!). Big Briar is now also
offering a DIY non-MIDI Theremin in the $250 range, including handmade
antennas and a finished case.

There has been a recent reissue of the only Theremin virtuouso, Clara
Rockmore (hope I have that right) on CD.

You can see a Theremin in action in the Led Zepplin concert movie, "The
Song Remains The Same."

www.paia.com/paia had a ThereMAX kit for sale in October 1995.

You might want to know that there is a theremin page on the WEB at:

http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~jbbarile/theremin.html

The February 1996 issue of Electronic Musician magazine contains an article
on building your own Theremin.


FTP & HTTP#################################################################
##Where do I find Midi files/software archives on the Internet?############

There is a list of ftp and mail server archives with MIDI documentation,
programs and music on the Internet. Also enclosed is a list of MIDI and
electronic music related mailing lists.

The latest version of this file can be obtained by ftp from

ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17] in pub/MIDI/DOC/archives

or by mail from mail-server@cs.ruu.nl (send a message with HELP in the
body). From the mail-server the filename without pub/ should be used. The
latest monthly version is also available in the various news.answers
archives around the world, in music/midi/archives.

##Where can I find information on related books?###########################

There is a bibliography on synthesizers, midi, computer and electronic
music that has been collected from various sources by Piet van Oostrum
<piet@CS.RUU.NL>. He has tried to bring some structure into it, but not all
books will fit into a single subject. NOTE: He has NOT read these books,
and the comments are from other people.

The latest version of this file can be obtained by ftp from

ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17] in pub/MIDI/DOC/bibliography

or by mail from mail-server@cs.ruu.nl (send a message with HELP in the
body). From the mail-server the filename without pub/ should be used. The
latest monthly version is also available in the various news.answers
archives around the world, in music/midi/bibliography.


##Where can I find demos of sequencers?####################################

On the Internet/Web, you could try:

Harmony Central:         http://harmony-central.mit.edu/Software/Mac/

##Where can I find a list of used gear?####################################

ftp://synthcom.com/pub/synth/docs/current_raw.txt

##"Where is the archive of FAQs kept?"#####################################

There are two FAQ documents. These cover Administration and General topics.
You will be able to ftp previous FAQ files from the Internet.


##Contributors#############################################################

Contributions by Mike Metlay, Joe McMahon, Ned Kartchner, Clive McFarland,
Doug Ramsay, Tom Ritchford, David Rodger, Amanda Pehlke, John Rossi, Doug
Wellington, Piet van Oostrum, Martin Russ, Bucky Goldstein, Jeff Talman,
Devon E. Weller, FAUST, Billy Brown, Roger King, Nick Rothwell...

###########################################################################







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 Martin Russ            Reviewer & Columnist for Sound On Sound Magazine (UK)
 mruss@midi.dungeon.com      Hi-Tech Music Technical Author & MIDI Consultant
 http://www.dungeon.com/~midi              Macintosh & Synthesizer Programmer
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Date:         Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:36:39 -0700
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From:         Timothy Kelly <midivox@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: neurophone

Hi All,
   A friend of mine met the neurophone inventor in Hawaii this spring.
He tried it and liked it, but had no comment on whether any true bone
conduction was going on.
   Remember the bonephone from way back that you wore around your neck
and claimed to send the music up and down your spine.
   As a note on transducers, I have not come across any that vibrate
enough to inject a true bone conduction signal into the body.
   I dont really think anyone would want any music and sound really,
really going all over the entire bone structure.
   I have enough metal in my body, that sometimes a vacum cleaner or
sitting too close to an airplane engine will cause all the metal in my
body to vibrate, and its not something you want to have happen
everyday.
   The living vibration of the human voice is great at boning all over
the body, and with synths, one can custom tune and create sounds that
can be felt in certain parts of the body.
   So a true bonephone or neurophone, we will probably see one in the
next century.
   MidiVox BioSensor transducers only work with the human voice and
only when wore around the vocal cords. They do not actually vibrate
themselves just read vocal vibration, shape, and movement. Most
transducers are vibration readers and do not actually vibrate, at least
the ones used in MidiVox, earthquake sensors, and the space program.
   Happy Emusic
   Timothy Kelly
   MidiVox
--
MidiVox - Worlds 1st Voice to Midi. Real Time Hardware.
BioSensor Neckband. Rack Mount Brain.

Sing, Hum, Scat, Croon, Rap, Talk, Scream . AES Best in Show.
EM's Editors Choice.

Become a Human Sequencer & Human Vocoder. Can You Hum a Bass,
Sing Like a Sax?
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Date:         Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:23:51 -0400
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From:         Joe McMahon <mcmahon@CLARK.NET>
Subject:      Re: CDs for sale or trade
In-Reply-To:  <9609161442.AA11625@pop1a.mail.mci.com> from "Michael Faulkner"
              at Sep 16, 96 09:41:00 am

Please don't post ads on EMUSIC-L> SYNTH-L is OK.

 --- Joe M.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:44:19 -0400
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From:         Jacky Schreiber <jackysch@VEN.NET>
Subject:      MTV(alternative?)

Hi all!:

I was amazed by the so many times the term "alternative music" was
pronounced on the latest
MTV's video music awards.
Although I haven't heard the music of any of the members of this list, I
always thought "we" were composing/performing "alternative music", if this
is, by any means, possible!?
Are there any "standards" for this so called "alternative music" ?, or am I
missing something?!?
Can anyone enlighten me please!

yours

Jacky Schreiber-------->jackysch@ven.net
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1094
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Date:         Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:25:31 -0400
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From:         Edward Francy <edf@CONNIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: MTV(alternative?)
In-Reply-To:  <01BBA570.B5D3D6E0@dppp48.ven.net>

On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Jacky Schreiber wrote:

> Are there any "standards" for this so called "alternative music" ?, or am I
> missing something?!?
> Can anyone enlighten me please!
>

'Alternative' has become just another pigeonhole that Sam Goody and the
like use to classify.  Alternative to me no longer isn't.

One must search out those alternatives, not find them on MTV.


BTW, I'd like to introduce myself to the list - this is my first post.

I'm very new at trying to 'compose' music, but I've been an intent
listener for many years.  Walter Carlos, Vangelis, Tomita, Jarre are all
favorites.

I'm hoping to learn a little about using my PC & keyboard to try recording
some of my own music....

-ed
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Date:         Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:08:12 +0100
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From:         Nick Rothwell <nick@CASSIEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Power Computing

>Can I ask a really stupid question?  What the heck is MAX?

See http://www.cassiel.com/gearhead/max.html.

         Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL        contemporary dance projects
         http://www.cassiel.com        music synthesis and control

             years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again
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Date:         Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:07:13 +1000
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From:         clive@PELICAN.DBE.CSIRO.AU
Subject:      Re: MTV(alternative?)

>I was amazed by the so many times the term "alternative music" was
>pronounced on the latest MTV's video music awards.

As you suggest, the terms 'MTV' and 'alternative' are mutually exclusive:
if it was alternative it wouldn't be on MTV, now would it?

Regards

Clive

Clive McFarland         CSIRO Australia         clive@pelican.dbe.csiro.au
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Date:         Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:15:04 -0400
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From:         Jeff Adkins <jadkins@INFI.NET>
Subject:      Re: MTV(alternative?)

clive@PELICAN.DBE.CSIRO.AU wrote:

>>I was amazed by the so many times the term "alternative music" was
>>pronounced on the latest MTV's video music awards.
>
>As you suggest, the terms 'MTV' and 'alternative' are mutually exclusive:
>if it was alternative it wouldn't be on MTV, now would it?

Well, at one time alternative was really an alternative, say when (not long
ago) MTV was playing hair metal around the clock.  Then, the style known as
"alternative" became mainstream while retaining its name.  Sort of like the
problem with the term "modern" which now refers to a defunct
literary/artistic period.

--Jeff

Our walking is in time
And our dazzling bodies
Have paces ineffable
That leave their prints in fables . . . .                      --Paul Valery
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Date:         Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:21:42 -0400
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From:         Jacky Schreiber <jackysch@VEN.NET>
Subject:      Re: MTV(alternative?)

clive@PELICAN.DBE.CSIRO.AU wrote:

>>I was amazed by the so many times the term "alternative music" was
>>pronounced on the latest MTV's video music awards.
>
>As you suggest, the terms 'MTV' and 'alternative' are mutually exclusive:
>if it was alternative it wouldn't be on MTV, now would it?

Well, at one time alternative was really an alternative, say when (not long
ago) MTV was playing hair metal around the clock.  Then, the style known as
"alternative" became mainstream while retaining its name.  Sort of like the
problem with the term "modern" which now refers to a defunct
literary/artistic period.

--Jeff

Our walking is in time
And our dazzling bodies
Have paces ineffable
That leave their prints in fables . . . .                      --Paul Valery
=======================================================
I must say I'm NOT an MTV fan, but,... you never know?!?, and I do like visual arts
(video included) a lot so...another item for discussion here:
when or where video (or visual arts in general) and music got so much separated, I mean...
we've all have seen a lot of beautiful videos on MTV or elsewhere but the music...!?!

Jacky Schreiber-------->jackysch@ven.net
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1094



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Date:         Thu, 19 Sep 1996 07:30:13 -0400
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From:         "Alan M. Bookmiller" <abook@PROXIMA.COM>
Subject:      Re: MTV(alternative?)

Hi listee's,

Containers. There are lots of them. Alternative is one - nothing more than
a container. I suppose one could say others are, industrial, heavy metal,
hair metal(?), new age, jazz, etc. It's nothing more than a way of
classifying music style. Seems to me that there are too many composers on
this list who are trying to mimic style. A composer should create without
trying to fit their compositions into a "container." Furthermore, one will
go crazy trying to logically arrange these containers into some order.
Listen to a broad spectrum of music and allow yourself to come through your
compositions and don't be so damned concerned about classification of your
tunes - let the music industry classify your music, or force them to build
a new container.

Alan
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Date:         Fri, 20 Sep 1996 06:43:05 +1000
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From:         David Rodger <MUSDR@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: MTV(alternative?)

Hi emusicers,

Alternative is a pretty silly designation anyway (and I don't want to re-open
the debate on "cubbyholing" at this point).

Everything is an alternative to something else!

Regards, David
musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au
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Date:         Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:30:15 +0200
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From:         Paulo Mouat <mouat@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT>
Subject:      Haujobb appreciation

The Haujobb CD's I ordered finally got here two days ago.  After a
careful listening (they're 'Homes & Gardens' and 'Freeze Frame Reality')
I must say that I was a bit disappointed after what has been said in
this list about them.

Both albums are interesting.  However I find Download much more
innovative and pleasing;  there is a rare subtlety in their music, and
that has much more appeal, IMHO.

Also, for a more aggressive type of industrial (to properly compare
Haujobb) I really prefer the richness of Front Line Assembly's most
recent (four?) albums (the ones with Rhys Fulber).

Regards.
--
  __|__
___\_/___
   ___      Paulo Mouat,
  |___|  mouat@mail.telepac.pt
  |___|
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Date:         Fri, 20 Sep 1996 08:35:41 -500
Reply-To:     rgough@mechtech.com
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Comments:     Authenticated sender is <rgough@[204.240.252.1]>
From:         Robert Gough <rgough@MECHTECH.COM>
Organization: Mechanical Technology Inc.
Subject:      Re: MTV(alternative?)

> Containers. There are lots of them. Alternative is one

Well said (written), especially:

> don't be so damned concerned about classification of your
> tunes - let the music industry classify your music, or force them to build
> a new container.

Cheers,

Bob


Robert Gough                               (518) 785-2444
Software Engineer                     rgough@mechtech.com
Mechanical Technology Inc.       www.mechtech.com/rgough/
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"I am resplendent in divergence."
                                           - Robert Fripp
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Date:         Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:52:28 -0400
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From:         Jeff Adkins <jadkins@INFI.NET>
Subject:      Re: MTV(alternative?)

Robert Gough <rgough@mechtech.com>wrote:
>"Alan M. Bookmiller" <abook@PROXIMA.COM> wrote:

>> Containers. There are lots of them. Alternative is one
>
>Well said (written), especially:

Yes, thanks for putting it so lucidly, Alan.

>> don't be so damned concerned about classification of your
>> tunes - let the music industry classify your music, or force them to build
>> a new container.

I wonder why containers are so important to the music industry/market?

--Jeff

Our walking is in time
And our dazzling bodies
Have paces ineffable
That leave their prints in fables . . . .                      --Paul Valery
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Date:         Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:26:47 -0400
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From:         "Alan M. Bookmiller" <abook@PROXIMA.COM>
Subject:      Containers and Cuban Entertainers...

>I wonder why containers are so important to the music industry/market?


Most likely a marketing scheme so music store people know where to display
their products.

There's a lot of music throughout the world, here in the US we only hear a
miniscule portion of it - mostly artists produced by US record producers.
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to hear the vast variety of music from the
worlds composers and performers regardless of their style, coming from
"our" radios? Why do "American Broadcasters" subject us to the same top
forty or fifty tunes that they are hyping at any given time? Even the jazz
stations are playing only a select few recordings. I don't know about the
rest of you, but I can hardly stand to listen to another frigging oldie!
Cripes, I wish someone in the industry would extract their head from their
ass and reach for something new, like a worldwide selection of music - mix
it up! And while I'm at it, isn't it time that the good ole' Fed's lift the
ban and allow Cuban bands to perform here in the United States. Ooooh, be
careful, those conga's may be used for smuggling missles! Where's the
logic?

Thanks for the read...

Alan
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Date:         Sat, 21 Sep 1996 10:41:31 +1000
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From:         David Rodger <MUSDR@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: MTV(alternative?)

Jeff Adkins wrote:

> I wonder why containers are so important to the music industry/market?

Because, if you're trying to persuade people who haven't heard your product
to _buy_ your product, you have to give them an idea of what it's like.
Thta's a very simple explanation and I'm sure that others here will elucidate
or object and we'll all be the wiser.

I don't care if people or music marketers try to stick my music in a container.
(Not that I currently _have_ any to be boxed -- I'm speaking hypothetically.)
If the name on the container is enough to get people interested, fine.  If
I don't agree with the label, I still consider that it'll pull some interest,
probably from quarters I hadn't considered.

For example, if my band is advertised as playing African music, we might get
those into African pop _or_ ethno-heads, or both.  In fact, we play Ewe and
Asante music from Ghana (traditional, what's more!), but such a specific
label would probably garner less interest from the general public an get us
a smaller audience at our gigs.  So, while I consider that our music is
very different from so much other "African" music, I don't mind the label.
And for people who are not familiar with Ghanaian music, the term "African"
provides an easier context for them.

Regards, David
musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au
http://coming_soon!
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Date:         Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:11:14 -0400
Reply-To:     edf@connix.com
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From:         Ed Francy <edf@CONNIX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Containers

Alan M. Bookmiller wrote:
 Wouldn't it be nice to be able to hear the vast variety of music from
the
> worlds composers and performers regardless of their style

Back to eMpTyVee... when I see their awards shows - and see the foreign
awards - I wonder - why not switch for a day - to the EXACT feed that
MTV Japan, or Europe, would be showing.  Of course, we'd switch
adverts... I'd just like to see/hear it sometime....

-ed

