From MAILER-DAEMON  Fri Jan  3 13:22:47 1997
Received: from atlanta.american.edu (atlanta.american.edu [147.9.1.6]) by mail.clark.net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA01672 for <mcmahon@CLARK.NET>; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:22:46 -0500 (EST)
Received: from atlanta (atlanta.american.edu [147.9.1.6])
          by atlanta.american.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP
	  id MAA20426 for <mcmahon@CLARK.NET>; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:48:57 -0500
Message-Id: <199701031748.MAA20426@atlanta.american.edu>
Date:         Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:48:56 -0500
From: "L-Soft list server at AMERICAN.EDU (1.8b)"
              <LISTSERV@AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject:      File: "EMUSIC-L LOG9611E"
To: Joe McMahon <mcmahon@CLARK.NET>
Status: RO

=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:51:04 -0800
Reply-To:     Mario Milat <wd528@freenet.victoria.bc.ca>
Sender:       Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
From:         Mario Milat <wd528@FREENET.VICTORIA.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: What is jazz
In-Reply-To:  <199611280600.BAA57554@atlanta.american.edu>

>...
> (Woody Herman's big band in particular) and sounds a lot like jazz, but
> since it is completely written out it doesn't count as jazz. Jazz needs to
> have an element of improvisation.
>...

Ooops! You just wiped out two decades of Big band _jazz_ era.
( A misunderstanding of an academic definition applied to a real
life art, I guess.)

I'm not sure where your definition of improvisation in music in general
comes from but once a phrase is improvised, played over and _written_ down
it remains an improvisation - it applies to Bach's fugas as well as
Woody Herman's...
An improvisation in big/small jazz band is carried out by some/all
musicians taking turns on a given and written/defined theme as soloists.
As far as I know, successful, simultaneous, collective (as in an orchestra)
and total improvising hasn't happened in any music style yet. (Ok, maybe
in some contemporary percussion-only "ansambles")

(my little contribution to the thread)
Happy Thanksgiving.
Mario
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:50:54 +0000
Reply-To:     Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
Sender:       Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
From:         Paul Watson <PIW554@DOCKYARD.CO.NZ>
Subject:      Re: jazz

And Rock & Roll was Black slang for getting it on or up. Puts
'connecting with the music' in a new light... :-)

Anyone for Electronic Music?

Paul Watson
New Zealand


> If you must know, the word Jazz comes from the late 1920's and is slang for
> the word "Jizz" which we know is come.  Jazz is synonamous with sex, pleasure,
> orgasm.  This is not a joke, Jazz is from sex.
>
>
> At 09:06 PM 11/26/96 -0500, you wrote:
> >>please tell me exactly what is jazz and its origin. thanks in advance.
> >>
> >>KR
> >
> >--------
> >
> >>What is Jazz?  To quote Dizzy Gillespie (or was it Louis Armstrong?):
> >>
> >>        "If ya gotta ask, you ain't never gonna know."
> >>
> >>__
> >>Ben Cox                                 cox@transarc.com
> >
> >-------
> >
> >"Ask and ye shall receive."
> >
> >Jazz is the spontaneous expression of the soul through music.
> >As the soul has very few restrictions in its freedoms -once liberated
> >...so as jazz.
> >The free-flowing musical form is explicative of the sencible (intellect)
> >emotional subject.
> >
> >Of its origin, it could be stated that it may have come as a result or in
> >co-incidence
> >with the Dadist or Nihlist movements from the earliest decades of the 20th
> >Century.
> >Its developement was encouraged through the roaring 1920's speakeasies in
> >Harlem, St Louis and Chicago, and the most reknowned of the performers were
> >black.(soul)
> >
> >The communist Russians had to say of the movement in the 1930's:
> >"It is a capitalist conspiracy in order to keep the worker's mind from his
> >troubles once he has left his work-place; by filling it with thoughts
> >resulting in acts of love-making."
> >
> >Little did the Ruskies know, the McCarthy types were having their own
> >difficulties "getting-down with IT."
> >
> >We should be a little more helpful in educating our peers, Mr. Cox.
> >Viel Gluck, Karen
> >_frederick
> >
> >
>
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:33:23 -0500
Reply-To:     Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
Sender:       Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
From:         Jeff Adkins <jadkins@INFI.NET>
Subject:      Re: jazz

Paul Watson <PIW554@DOCKYARD.CO.NZ>:

>And Rock & Roll was Black slang for getting it on or up. Puts
>'connecting with the music' in a new light... :-)
>
>Anyone for Electronic Music?

What's that slang for?  ;)

__
Jeff

Our walking is in time
      And our dazzling bodies
           Have paces ineffable
                 That leave their prints in fables . . . . --Paul Valery
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:31:49 +0000
Reply-To:     Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
Sender:       Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
From:         Paul Watson <PIW554@DOCKYARD.CO.NZ>
Subject:      Re: jazz

Jeff

> >And Rock & Roll was Black slang for getting it on or up. Puts
> >'connecting with the music' in a new light... :-)
> >
> >Anyone for Electronic Music?
>
> What's that slang for?  ;)

Onanism... :-p

Paul Watson
New Zealand
PIW554@dockyard.co.nz
=========================================================================
Date:         Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:16:25 -0500
Reply-To:     Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
Sender:       Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
From:         "Frederick J. Hartline" <PEACEFUL8@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: What is jazz + an analysis on interpretation of types of
              sounds

>>>please tell me exactly what is jazz and its origin. thanks in advance.
>
>
>>Jazz is the spontaneous expression of the soul through music.
>>As the soul has very few restrictions in its freedoms -once liberated
>>...so as jazz.

>This may represent your personal feelings about jazz but it doesn't do very
>much to tell someone what it is. Adherents to any musical style will tell
>you that their particular kind of music represents the "spontaneous
>expression of the soul through music".  I, for one, feel particularly
>liberated when listening to Stravinsky, and my soul expresses itself through
>music by compelling me to take out pencil and paper and write down piano
>sonatas, or whatever else hits me.

I agree.
However, in the stimulating of the three basic human drive centers, (mind,
body, soul)
i would have to say that, from my observations, jazz benefits the soul more
so than the body and mind.
I am not stating that the other two centers are not effected or affected by
the "jizz," i am simply stating that it is of my experience it is the soul
that reaps more bountiful.

I have spent the last couple years on the dancefloors (laboratory for
practical test and application of sounds) of clubs noticing the effects of
the different music genres and influences on myself and those around me who
are engaged (more so subconscious than consciously) in the receiving of the
phonic stimuli.

[eg.]
House music (soulful jazzy + funk and rhythms; origin Chicago, refined New
York) had a profoundly different effect on individuals than that of the
Techno-Intellegent or Progressive House (concerning technical sonic dynamics
of synth-sound waves and patterns +
rhythms; Detroit, refined Europe) on those enjoying the styles.

Body language (kinetic) observational analyse resulted as follows:
I noticed that bodily expressions of love (soul-sexy communication stuff
-hugs, kisses, whistles, cat calls, etc.) were rampant in the House rooms,
while the Techno rooms were enjoyed by individuals engaged in more mindful or
abstracted physical maneuvers -they were thinking.
It is with the premise that these individual physical (objectual) movements
(or dance) are  a direct representation and indication of the subjects'
perception and interpretation of the musical stimulation, at all levels of
consciousness,  that i have come to my conclusions  that variable kinds of
sounds and rhythum patterns affect each of the centers differently.

with this in mind, i would have to say that Stravinsky would work the
(abstract) intellectual aspects of the human components more to this effect,
rather than the soulful.

comments?

_frederick
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Nov 1996 02:09:05 -0600
Reply-To:     Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
Sender:       Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
From:         Gence Soysal <GSOYSAL@MACALESTER.EDU>
Subject:      midi files

Does anyone have a quick reference guide for the notation for a midi file in
text form? Specifically, I want to know what the arguments of certain
'commands' mean such as:

0 TimeSig 4/4 ... ... (Obviously, this is 4/4 time, but what do the following
two numbers stand for)

0 Mfile ... ... ... (what do the three arguments stand for?)

0 Tempo ... (what range of numbers is equivalent to, say, a tempo allegro?)

Also, what is the precise relationship between the sequence of numbers with the
tempo and TimeSig... i.e., how can I make the computer play 4 notes (A4 all of
them), on channel 1, volume 64. What would the difference between the numbers
at the beginning of each line have to be?:

1 On ch=1 n=60 v=64
??? Off ch=1 n=60 v=64
??? On ch=1 n=60 v=64
... etc.

I'm not even sure if this notation is standard... I came across it while
messing around with a program called the Well-Tempered Fractal that generates
fractal melodies and stores it in this form. Then one can use a text-to-midi
converter to convert it to a .mid file.

Thank you very much,


- Gence
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Nov 1996 23:28:47 +0100
Reply-To:     Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
Sender:       Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
From:         "Dr. Victor" <drvictor@FREESIDE.ELTE.HU>
Subject:      Re: Access to materials

>
>If you're not already on our email list and you'd like to receive these
>catalogs and be on the EMF email list, send email to list@emf.org and say
>something simple, like "Put me on your list!"

So, please send me CATALOG !

thank you.



Best Regards,
Dr.Victor


    | |  | |      | |  | |  | |      | |  | |
    | |  | |      | |  | |  | |      | |  | |
    | |  | |      | |  | |  | |      | |  | |
 |__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|
          Dr. V  i  C  T  O  R
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 29 Nov 1996 21:40:47 -0500
Reply-To:     Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
Sender:       Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>
From:         "Frederick J. Hartline" <PEACEFUL8@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: jazz & sex rhythums

In a message dated 96-11-28 01:09:27 EST, you write:

>I don't know if there's anything you can say about jazz that applies in all
>cases. Best to just say listen to recordings by Louis Armstrong, Benny
>Goodman, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Thelonious Monk, Charlie Parker, Art
>Tatum, Mingus, etc.(I'm sure others will expand upon this list) After
>listening to them, one should have a pretty good idea of what jazz is.

will somebody please expand on the above list.
i am particularly interested in the sexiest rhythums there are and have been.
who's got the hottest stuff?
thanks in advance
_frederick

