========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:38:19 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: SCHMUCK Stephane Subject: Hot Stuff Ok, I'm making music since 5 years with an old DX11 and Korg01/wFD, I'm 25 and living in Berlin(Germany), my job is software developper and I have learn electronic in France. Now after this short introducing... I need to make my own music with my own stuff... Where could I found help to me to found some schematics on synthethisers or/and music effects ? It's not a great problem for me to program any microcontroller or DSP but how assemble it ??? !! Thanks. :-) SCHMUCK Stephane ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:57:10 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Marcus Hobbs Subject: Re: EMUSIC-L Digest - 14 Jan 1997 to 16 Jan 1997 In-Reply-To: Automatic digest processor "EMUSIC-L Digest - 14 Jan 1997 to 16 Jan 1997" (Jan 16, 1:00am) > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:38:19 -0500 > From: SCHMUCK Stephane > Subject: Hot Stuff > > Ok, I'm making music since 5 years with an old DX11 and Korg01/wFD, > I'm 25 and living in Berlin(Germany), my job is software developper and > I have learn electronic in France. > > Now after this short introducing... > > I need to make my own music with my own stuff... > Where could I found help to me to found some schematics on synthethisers > or/and music effects ? It's not a great problem for me to program any > microcontroller > or DSP but how assemble it ??? !! > > Thanks. :-) hi there, my name is marcus. i create computer graphics by day, and music by night. i highly reccommend you get a Kyma. see http://www.symbolicsound.com/ it's a programmable dsp, with a very friendly, intuitive interface. i'm creating wild techno sounds with it, in exotic alternate tunings. it's expensive, but if you want complete control over your sounds, there's nothing like it. give me a call if you want to talk about it some more. marcus ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 03:44:17 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: christopher hopper Subject: Commands I hate to be a total dork but would someone please send me the commands for signing off this list? I've got to clear out the account on this computer since I'm switching over. thanks, chris Christopher Hopper christophop@juno.com private mail direct to morgensterne@juno.com "The greatest affliction of the cosmos is never to have been afflicted. Mortals only learn wisdom by experiencing tribulation." The Urantia Book pg 556 _____________________________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:20:43 -0500 Reply-To: eplant@erols.com Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Edward Plant Subject: attention all synthesis academics... ...emusic-l or synth-l? emusic-l or synth-l? dammit I don't know... I lost my reference copy of Metlay's quiz... I'll post this here, duck, and hope for the best.... I've been given an opportunity to teach a short course (6 to 12 hours) in the fundamentals of musc synthesis this summer at a local community college. As is typical with such things, the opportunity has come up suddenly, and I need to submit a rough course outline in the next day or so before having a chance to do any research! So, as a long time lurker on this list and admirer of the collective intelligence it frequently displays, I thought I'd come here for advice on what topics to cover and how to structure the presentation. I'm also looking for suggestions on reading material for my preperation. I know there are many books available, but I'd appreciate some insight into which are good and which are a waste of time. Since the course is short, my general plan is to start with the basics of analog synthesis (tone generators and filters) and end with wavetable, passing through FM and whatever else might help along the way. My teaching tool will be a software based synth on a Windows platform (there is no budget available to buy a Moog, but there are truckloads of PCs available!) using for playback whatever soundcard I can get cheap in quantity. Thanks for your help.... and please bounce me politely if I'm on the wrong list... Have a nice day -- Edward Plant, Digital Design Engineer eplant@erols.com Stanford Telecom, AT 141 National Business Pkwy, Suite 200, Annapolis Junction, MD 20701 (301)497-9900 ext. 113 voice, (301)497-0207 FAX ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:31:57 -0800 Reply-To: jefff@dgii.com Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Jeff Fried Organization: digi international Subject: Re: attention all synthesis academics... Comments: To: eplant@erols.com Edward, CSound is a excellent software synthesis system whose components can be organized to create just about anything. It would make an excellent teaching tool for the different types of synthesis. Software for various platforms and documentation can be found at: http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/Man/c_front.html You should also try to acquire a MIDI based system as this is what you students are likely to see in the "real world". A good book on digital synthesis is Moore's "Fundamentals of Computer Music". I can't think of a good general (includes analog) except for older texts such as Appleton's book. Dr. Templaars at the Institute for Sonology in Utrecht taught a course in signal processing aimed at musicians. It was excellent, first he covered enough math to understand the wave equation, then we went on to both analog and digital signals and sound production. The text was good, but I don't know if he ever published it. 6 to 12 hours is not really enough to get into signal processing details especially since your students are likely to be weak in math and physics. If I was teaching the course here's what I would do: I. Acoustics: IA. Sound and its Properties: pitch/loudness range and measurements, harmonics, and onset behavoir IB. How we hear IC. Properties of musical instruments: strings/reeds/perc etc. ID. Echo, reverb, chorus, distance and location effects. II. Sound Synthesis IIA. History: early attempts (like the 10 boxcars to haul the Trautonium) and the hammond organ; voltage control synths in 60s. MIDI and sampling in the 80s. IIB. Subtractive synthesis (oscillators, filters, amplifiers, envelope generators (etc). IIC. Additive Synthesis-partials and transients IID. Modulation: FM/AM/Ring Modulation IIE. Sampling and Wavetable Synthesis IIF. Physical Modelling IIG. Effects: reverb, chorus, phasing, flanging etc. III. MIDI IIIA. MIDI controllers/modules/protocol IIIB. MIDI sequencing fundamentals IV. Tutorials on tools available in your lab V. Individual Lab time so students can experiment You might also want to include some listening either in or outside the classroom of synthesizers in music including the "classical" literature and examples of use in Pop music. -- Jeff. Edward Plant wrote: > > ...emusic-l or synth-l? emusic-l or synth-l? dammit I don't know... I > lost my reference copy of Metlay's quiz... I'll post this here, duck, > and hope for the best.... > > I've been given an opportunity to teach a short course (6 to 12 hours) > in the fundamentals of musc synthesis this summer at a local community > college. As is typical with such things, the opportunity has come up > suddenly, and I need to submit a rough course outline in the next day or > so before having a chance to do any research! So, as a long time lurker > on this list and admirer of the collective intelligence it frequently > displays, I thought I'd come here for advice on what topics to cover and > how to structure the presentation. I'm also looking for suggestions on > reading material for my preperation. I know there are many books > available, but I'd appreciate some insight into which are good and which > are a waste of time. > > Since the course is short, my general plan is to start with the basics > of analog synthesis (tone generators and filters) and end with > wavetable, passing through FM and whatever else might help along the > way. My teaching tool will be a software based synth on a Windows > platform (there is no budget available to buy a Moog, but there are > truckloads of PCs available!) using for playback whatever soundcard I > can get cheap in quantity. > > Thanks for your help.... and please bounce me politely if I'm on the > wrong list... > > Have a nice day > > -- > Edward Plant, Digital Design Engineer eplant@erols.com > Stanford Telecom, AT > 141 National Business Pkwy, Suite 200, Annapolis Junction, MD 20701 > (301)497-9900 ext. 113 voice, (301)497-0207 FAX ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:28:51 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Marshall Otwell Subject: Re: attention all synthesis academics... Comments: To: eplant@erols.com Comments: cc: lsasso@swiftkick.com > I've been given an opportunity to teach a short course (6 to 12 hours) > in the fundamentals of musc synthesis this summer at a local community > college. As is typical with such things, the opportunity has come up > suddenly, and I need to submit a rough course outline in the next day or > so before having a chance to do any research! So, as a long time lurker > on this list and admirer of the collective intelligence it frequently > displays, I thought I'd come here for advice on what topics to cover and > how to structure the presentation. In the past, given a similar opportunity, I started by presenting the "four dimensions of sound" (as I think of them): 1 - Pitch 2 - Amplitude 3 - Time 4 - Timbre (actually a paticular interaction of #1, #2, and #3) And then (after some discussion of how those interact to create sonic events, notes, music, etc.) mapping those concepts to traditional analog components: 1 - VCO 2 - VCA 3 - Envelope generators, sequencers, etc. 4 - VCF Audio illustrations of what you're talking about are invaluable. I also think for a new teacher the tendancy is to mine a lot of info and probably more than is needed. Students love to be involved in discussions, and if you point them in directions and then sprinkle in your background knowledge of the subject matter, everyone will remain interested and derive some benefit... Good luck. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 13:30:40 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: JunoMan Subject: Re: Hot Stuff Comments: cc: SCHMUCK Stephane In-Reply-To: <199701160600.BAA51338@atlanta.american.edu> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:38:19 -0500 > From: SCHMUCK Stephane > Subject: Hot Stuff > > Ok, I'm making music since 5 years with an old DX11 and Korg01/wFD, > I'm 25 and living in Berlin(Germany), my job is software developper and > I have learn electronic in France. > > Now after this short introducing... > > I need to make my own music with my own stuff... > Where could I found help to me to found some schematics on synthethisers > or/and music effects ? It's not a great problem for me to program any > microcontroller > or DSP but how assemble it ??? !! > Try http://www.synthfool.com/ (Kevin Lightner's site, famous synth repair tech) There is some schematics there that may be useful to you. There is a Ring Modulator schematic which I am trying to build now. Pierre > Thanks. :-) > > SCHMUCK Stephane > > ------------------------------ > > End of EMUSIC-L Digest - 14 Jan 1997 to 16 Jan 1997 > *************************************************** > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Pierre Zarokian _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ E-mail: pzarokian@email.csun.edu _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ or pzarokian@ccgate.hac.com _/ _/ _/ _/ URL: http://www.csun.edu/~hbcsc349 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:14:03 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Jacob Bancks Subject: Improving my Midi Hi i hope this is were i'm sopposed to mail this, anyway, does anyone know of a driver or something that i can use to improve the Midi sound on my computer without buying a whole new soundcard? I compose with Finale by Coda and a small Midi keyboard that uses the ESS SoundDrive Midi in my computer (the keyboard itself has no sound or speakers). In composing, especially for strings, I find the ESS Midi patches unrealistic and difficult to compose with. It would be wonderful if I could just download a driver or something to improve this sound. My soundcard is a SoundBlaster Pro (I think)... if anyone can help me, i'd really appreciate it. Thanks, Jake ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 05:52:00 -0600 Reply-To: dy10994@cedarnet.org Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Net Jammer, Soul Jammer Or Shoopman" Organization: Whitney Houston's (Virtual) Best Friend, I Pray-4-U. 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I am EXTREMELY proud of singer, writer and producer Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds.
This Man has tied Michael Jackson's record of 12 Grammy nominations.
He is my music idol. My R&B Devotion. I listen to his music every day. So thanK U Face!
I will not FINISH without mention Whitney Houston. This "VH1 Artist of Month." is always my favorite. U Go Girl!!!
Herself has a chance to win R&B female Performance, with the song "Exhale - Shoop, Shoop", Produced by BABYFACE!
Whitney, Face I wish you good luck on Feb 26! Shoop Shoop!!!

.....Hey, U 2 online??? I am desperate to chat with yo all!



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------------6D7023038712-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:50:01 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Randy Meeker Subject: Improving my Midi -Reply Sounds like time for an add-on daughter board to your soundblaster either Creative Labs or might I suggest the Yahmaha XG board it's twice the money $164 US but I just bought it and it looks tremendous with hundreds of additional voices (16 different piano sounds alone). Strings are especially difficult to get an acceptable voicing for. Let us know what you decide and I will attempt to reveal my discoveries as I come accross them. -Randy ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:37:05 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: attention all synthesis academics... In-Reply-To: <199701161928.LAA14324@luminous.ictv.com> from "Marshall Otwell" at Jan 16, 97 11:28:51 am > I also think for a new teacher the tendancy is to mine a lot of info > and probably more than is needed. Students love to be involved in > discussions, and if you point them in directions and then sprinkle in > your background knowledge of the subject matter, everyone will remain > interested and derive some benefit... As one more suggestion - try to set aside a certain amount of time for listening as well. If students can, have them bring in stuff they find interesting in the electronic music arena, listen, and spend some time discussing the techniques that can be heard there. Gil Trythall, who used to be here - don't know if he still is or not - taught a wonderful "Emusic for non-musicians" course while I was at WVU back in the late 70's. Our studio was a Micromoog, a couple reel-to-reel decks, and a splice block. It was GREAT. :) --- Joe M. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:32:43 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: JunoMan Subject: Re: Hot Stuff (fwd) Also, for Do-It-Yourself projects try: http://www.paia.com/ They have schematics for an analogue monosynth called Fatman and also a vocoder, etc. They will also sell you a package with parts, Fatman parts are around $150 and I believe the vocoder is around $100. Pierre _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Pierre Zarokian _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ E-mail: pzarokian@email.csun.edu _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ or pzarokian@ccgate.hac.com _/ _/ _/ _/ URL: http://www.csun.edu/~hbcsc349 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:27:45 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "william.b.fox" Subject: Kyma Hi Marcus, In your response to S.Stephane, you mention Kyma. If you're on SYNTH-L, please post about what it is. (If not, please post privately to me.) But here on EMUSIC-L, I'd love to see a discussion on how you use Kyma in your music. Thanks! BillFox@lucent.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:04:11 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "Robert M. Sanders" Subject: E-music aesthetics and computer synthesis: Enlightenment? -Reply Paulo Mouat writes: < a 'b', 'B' ==> b ... 'g'. 'G' ==> g white space (spaces, periods, commas, etc.) ==> rests You can also use the 'author' to determine which instruments are playing: mike metlay ==> string section david rodger ==> french horn ... courtney ==> triangle .... Tempo is determined by the signal to noise ratio. Signal = number of occurences of the following strings in last 64k bytes: beethoven, wagner, DX7, MIDI, ludwig, eno, eroica, java, ... Noise = number of occurances of the following strings: magazines, free, subscription, affirmative + anything in all caps. for each 'unsubscribe' message ==> notate as an audience cough the coda starts when mike metlay threatens to 'unsubscribe'. the piece finishes when the last 'unsubscribe' has been processed and no one remains on the list. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:21:19 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Joe McMahon Subject: Re: E-music aesthetics and computer synthesis: Enlightenment? In-Reply-To: from "Robert M. Sanders" at Jan 17, 97 03:04:11 pm > The E-MUSIC list is valuable, guys. For instance, Paulo could use it as an > unexhaustible, never repeating input stream to generate/compose > stochastic pieces. > It's a godawful long performance, though, at 8 years and still going... --- Joe M. > > the coda starts when mike metlay threatens to 'unsubscribe'. > the piece finishes when the last 'unsubscribe' has been processed and > no one remains on the list. > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:32:13 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Marshall Otwell Subject: Re: attention all synthesis academics... Since I haven't been involved in academic music (or academic much of anything) for longer than I will admit, would someone please refresh my memory (I'm suffering from jazzheimer's) on the word "stochastic", especially its use on this list (I threw away my dictionaries when I had them memorized, and now I've forgotten...)? Thanks. I forwarded the question about teaching to a pessimistic friend who has also taught such a course and got the following (not so helpful) response" ----- Begin Included Message ----- (...) Subject: Re: attention all synthesis academics... >(do you have any advice for this guy?) Based on the following, my advise is "punt". >My teaching tool will be a software based synth on a Windows >platform (there is no budget available to buy a Moog, but there are >truckloads of PCs available!) using for playback whatever soundcard I >can get cheap in quantity. ----- End Included Message ----- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 12:36:07 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Making stochastic music with EMUSIC-L Robert M. Sanders wrote: > The E-MUSIC list is valuable, guys. For instance, Paulo could use it > as an unexhaustible, never repeating input stream to generate/compose > stochastic pieces. > (...) Rather interesting concept. And the quotes of previous messages provide the restatement of the most interesting passages and serve to establish the necessary recurring motifs. Joe McMahon wrote: > It's a godawful long performance, though, at 8 years and still > going... The perfect solution to composers who at certain times in their lives become obsessed with length. Best! -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 12:36:23 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Paulo Mouat Subject: 'Stochastic' Marshall Otwell wrote: > would someone please refresh my memory on the word "stochastic", Stochastic process = a process involving a random variable, the successive values of which are not independent. This means the process will be conditioned by the law of large numbers, meaning that given enough steps, it converges to a definite state, a goal ('stochos'). > especially its use on this list Its use on this list relates to Xenakis' compositional methods, which use stochastic processes to rule a wide variety of musical parameters. Examples of instrumental pieces are Pithoprakta, Achorripsis or any of the ST/n pieces. An example in electronic music, both in the organization of the piece and in sound synthesis, is La Legende d'Eer. Cheers! -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:25:14 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Re: E-music aesthetics and computer synthesis: Enlightenment? Hello Robert... > david rodger ==> french horn How did I get in the brass section? > Tempo is determined by the signal to noise ratio. In that case, it'll be a techno piece with occasional funeral march excerpts. Regards, David musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au http://farben.latrobe.edu.au/d_rodger/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:19:28 +0200 Reply-To: ramsy@rtns.ro Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Radu Bogdan Draghiciu Subject: need some help Hi, I'm new to this list, i'm a guy from Romania and i like to know more about Digital Audio Recording. I use an Yamaha CS1X control synth with SU10 sampling unit, a Roland RAP-10 audio card. I plan to buy a DAT drive for my computer, but i need some information about DAT's (specs, accessories so on). I have a beta version od SAW Plus and Cubase 3.0 Score. If is there anyone who can provide me with some information, I'll be very grateful. Thanks very much ramsy@rtns.ro ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:35:45 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: SINBYTE@AOL.COM Subject: cd-recording and duplication I am currently starting a business with a friend of mine, cd-recording and duplication, i was just wondering if anyone has any information on the process or equipment. Or if anyone has any info on sites to check out to research this venture. I already understand the basic and technical aspect, I'm looking for insight and knowledge, so if you have any knowledge on the subject please advice.... Thanks for the time... SinByte@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:57:19 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Marcus Hobbs Subject: Re: EMUSIC-L Digest - 17 Jan 1997 to 18 Jan 1997 Comments: To: BillFox@lucent.com In-Reply-To: Automatic digest processor "EMUSIC-L Digest - 17 Jan 1997 to 18 Jan 1997" (Jan 18, 1:00am) > Subject: Kyma > > In your response to S.Stephane, you mention Kyma. If you're on SYNTH-L, > please post about what it is. (If not, please post privately to me.) > But here on EMUSIC-L, I'd love to see a discussion on how you use Kyma > in your music. Thanks! > > BillFox@lucent.com hi there bill, if you've read SymbolicSound's web page, you're probably aware that kyma is a software/hardware combo--the hardware is a bunch of motorola dsp's running in parallel, the software is a graphical interface of a signal flow diagram. you build sounds with components such as oscillators, samples, filters, envelopes, (waaay too many components to mention here). but the most powerful thing about it is that you build your own musical controls with expressions (in smalltalk-80, which i prefer over lisp and C++). so, as a trivial example, you could control your filter sweeps logarithmically, linearly, exponentially, fractally--what ever you can code. the system lets you write scripts in smalltalk that create very complex sounds algorithmically. i've created many analog acid sounds using the system and am recording a techno album using the kyma exclusively (except for the drums...using a novation drumstation for that). my main reason for purchasing it is so that i can use these techno/acid sounds with exotic tunings, something that would be impossible with any off-the-shelf software. in one song i'm doing, i'm animating the tuning as notes are playing. the riff morphs from sounding pelog or gamelan, to a more familiar 12 tone minor, and back again. only the kyma can let you write code that animates scales like this. there are weaknesses to the kyma. there are not a lot of musical sounds out-of-the-box. building your own sounds takes some knowlege of digital signal processing. the system is as powerful for you as your ability to code. it is expensive (circa $5K US). bill, do you mind forwarding this to synth-l? how do i suscribe to synth-l? marcus ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:19:49 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mike Metlay ++ Atomic City Subject: Re: E-music aesthetics and computer synthesis: Enlightenment? In-Reply-To: from "Robert M. Sanders" at Jan 17, 97 03:04:11 pm Robert M. Sanders writes-- > >The E-MUSIC list is valuable, guys. For instance, Paulo could use it as an >unexhaustible, never repeating input stream to generate/compose >stochastic pieces. Hey, stochasticism R us.... >mike metlay ==> string section What, no orchestrated noise farts? >the coda starts when mike metlay threatens to 'unsubscribe'. Then we've been in the coda for years now. :) mike -- "I'm going through a phase where I'm learning how much I don't know, and I don't want to say anything unless it A. is correct and B. contributes.... Geez, all the lists would dry up if everyone was in the same phase." (cikira) ========================================================================== Mike Metlay - ATOMIC CITY - P. O. Box 81175, Pittsburgh, PA 15217-0675 USA = atomic@netcom.com -- http://pd.net/atomic-city -- 800.924.ATOM = CD orders via LOFTY PURSUITS: 800.548.6724 & 904.385.6463, FAX 904.668.5825 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:38:53 +0100 Reply-To: fravd@ctv.es Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Francisco Vila Doncel Subject: Re: attention all synthesis academics... This is exactly I did first time I had to teach about synthesizers! I'm very happy on knowing my ideas aren't so bad, anyway... :) >> I've been given an opportunity to teach a short course... ... I thought I'd come here for advice on what topics to cover and how to structure the presentation. >In the past, given a similar opportunity, I started by presenting the "four dimensions of sound" (as I think of them): 1 - Pitch 2 - Amplitude 3 - Time 4 - Timbre (actually a paticular interaction of #1, #2, and #3) And then (after some discussion of how those interact to create sonic events, notes, music, etc.) mapping those concepts to traditional analog components: 1 - VCO 2 - VCA 3 - Envelope generators, sequencers, etc. 4 - VCF Audio illustrations of what you're talking about are invaluable. I also think for a new teacher the tendancy is to mine a lot of info and probably more than is needed. Students love to be involved in discussions, and if you point them in directions and then sprinkle in your background knowledge of the subject matter, everyone will remain interested and derive some benefit... Good luck. -- ***************************** Francisco Vila Doncel. Badajoz (Spain) E-mail: fravd@ctv.es http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fravd