========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 06:34:24 +0100 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: "J. Munnshe" Subject: Interview with Robert Moog Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, Because a problem with my email server, I think this message sent by me on December 22 has not reached its destination: --- Hello! I've interviewed to Robert Moog. As you know, he developed the Moog synthesizers, very used in electronic music. I've published the interview in Amazing Sounds. You can read it at: http://www.amazings.com/articles/article0036.html ("Amazing Sounds" is a free online / email-distributed magazine about electronic music, Ambient, New Instrumental. You can subscribe sending a message to amaze-request@amazings.com with the command: SUBSCRIBE AMAZE AS (your email) Best wishes, ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jorge Munnshe *** jmunnshe@ctv.es + AMAZING SOUNDS. + http://www.amazings.com + E-Mail: amazings@amazings.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 10:07:58 MST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mike Metlay Subject: Those who can't do.... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>I'm thinking of pursuing a (second) masters at a school which has the >>following equipment. If anyone has the time, I wonder if they'd look at >>the list and tell me what they think. > >What *I* think is that you're obsessed with the equipment since you haven't >said anything about the course, what it contains, how it's taught, or who >teaches it. I would have put it a bit more nicely, but that IS a valid point, I'm afraid. I know a number of people right on this list who could give you a very servicable education on most aspects of electronic music with an old analog synth, a four-track cassette deck, and (optionally) a Mirage and an old Apple computer running five-year-old software. I know a lot MORE people, both on and off this list, who could be plunked into Hans Zimmer's main studio and not be able to accomplish anything at all, much less teach someone else how to do it. mike -- "Let's not come to believe that a genre emerges from its label. A cat does not come into existence because it is spelled C-A-T." (d. tirch) ========================================================================== Mike Metlay - ATOMIC CITY - P. O. Box 81175, Pittsburgh, PA 15217-0675 USA = atomic@tesser.com -- http://pd.net/atomic-city -- 800.924.ATOM = CD orders via LOFTY PURSUITS: 800.548.6724 & 904.385.6463, FAX 904.668.5825 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 09:50:12 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Connie Sunday Subject: Re: Those who can't do.... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, let me clarify this then. What I asked the people on the list is to evaluate the _equipment_. Not the program, not the people who teach there, not my option to even ask stupid questions. The thing is, I myself was offered a job at this school (I'm a violinist). I am going to take the job, since a symphony job and other free lancing go along with it. Getting a second masters is a side issue. I don't know what any of the stuff is. In several cases, people on this and the IAWC list were kind enough to tell me about the equipment, and that IS what I wanted. Looking at my note, I can see how the misunderstanding came about. At 10:07 AM 12/29/97 MST, you wrote: >>>I'm thinking of pursuing a (second) masters at a school which has the >>>following equipment. If anyone has the time, I wonder if they'd look at >>>the list and tell me what they think. >> >>What *I* think is that you're obsessed with the equipment since you haven't >>said anything about the course, what it contains, how it's taught, or who >>teaches it. > >I would have put it a bit more nicely, but that IS a valid point, I'm >afraid. I know a number of people right on this list who could give you a >very servicable education on most aspects of electronic music with an old >analog synth, a four-track cassette deck, and (optionally) a Mirage and an >old Apple computer running five-year-old software. I know a lot MORE >people, both on and off this list, who could be plunked into Hans Zimmer's >main studio and not be able to accomplish anything at all, much less teach >someone else how to do it. > >mike > > >-- >"Let's not come to believe that a genre emerges from its label. A cat does > not come into existence because it is spelled C-A-T." (d. tirch) >=========================================================================== >Mike Metlay - ATOMIC CITY - P. O. Box 81175, Pittsburgh, PA 15217-0675 USA > = atomic@tesser.com -- http://pd.net/atomic-city -- 800.924.ATOM = >CD orders via LOFTY PURSUITS: 800.548.6724 & 904.385.6463, FAX 904.668.5825 > > *********************************************************** Connie Sunday Davis, California cmsunday@ucdavis.edu URL: http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/1162/ *********************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 11:31:50 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Robert Edgar Subject: Re: Interview with Robert Moog In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.16.19971229063424.49d702d6@pop.ctv.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Jorge, Nice article, on a nice guy. BTW: I looked through "Amazing Sounds" and think you have a fine website. I haven't found much that does a good job of covering a full range of alternative and electronic music, Amazing Sounds does as decent a job as I've seen. Robert Edgar lull@iconceptual.com http://www.iconceptual.com/Music/CDPlayer.htm -------------------- >Hello, > >Because a problem with my email server, I think this message sent by me on >December 22 has not reached its destination: > >--- > >Hello! > >I've interviewed to Robert Moog. As you know, he developed the Moog >synthesizers, very used in electronic music. I've published the interview >in Amazing Sounds. You can read it at: > >http://www.amazings.com/articles/article0036.html > >("Amazing Sounds" is a free online / email-distributed magazine about >electronic music, Ambient, New Instrumental. You can subscribe sending a >message to >amaze-request@amazings.com with the command: SUBSCRIBE AMAZE AS (your email) > >Best wishes, > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Jorge Munnshe *** jmunnshe@ctv.es >+ AMAZING SOUNDS. >+ http://www.amazings.com >+ E-Mail: amazings@amazings.com >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:31:26 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Applemn97 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Those who can't do.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I think that cats and goldfish make good equipment! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:49:05 -0500 Reply-To: David Crandall Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Crandall Subject: Re: Those who can't do....'cause they don't get to? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19971229095012.009b1d10@scarlet.ucdavis.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Connie Sunday wrote: > >>>I'm thinking of pursuing a (second) masters at a school which has the > >>>following equipment. If anyone has the time, I wonder if they'd look at ...and > ... > not my option to even ask stupid questions. The thing is, I myself was > offered a job at this school (I'm a violinist). I am going to take the > job, since a symphony job and other free lancing go along with it. Being (temporarily) institutionalized myself (at a school with a large pile of dream gear), I think the salient point is not what gear they have, but who gets access to it, how much of it actually works, whether it's shared with scores of undergrads, how many different departments are fighting over it, or even whether some of it is bought by the school and installed at some faculty member's lab, where *no-one* gets to use it. (that way, they can still list it as school gear for the purpose of attracting grads & instructors). Also getting the lowdown on whether there may be a staff "dog in the manger" accumulating his or her own personal toy pile. I'd talk unofficially to as many folks as possible and find out how many are truly happy. I was also offered a gig where I am, and am pretty happy, but the politics of access & purchasing made me wonder more than once if I shouldn't have looked the gift horse in the mouth after all. I ended up deciding to just buy my own stuff so I know it'll be available (and working). (BTW those decoding the return address should be advised that I'm *NOT* describing our music dept/recording program, which seems very well run. I'm in another department entirely.) It all depends how important the gear is to the rest of the package. David Crandall ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:29:44 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Virtuoso99 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Those who can't do... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi all - I remember a distant time ago introducing myself to the list and then disappearing from view... I apologize for the apparent lack of concern - I was commissioned to work on a big game, and had no time for any communiquè. This afternoon, I read Mike's comment: >I know a number of people right on this list who could give you a >very servicable education on most aspects of electronic music with an old >analog synth, a four-track cassette deck, and (optionally) a Mirage and an >old Apple computer running five-year-old software. Well, I've been able to churn out some pretty respectable stuff from a 486 running Cakewalk, and Mike's words do ring true - You need to focus on the instructor and the curriculum of any music course. Put it this way - Beethoven, Bach, Mozart - they wrote some of the most well-loved music of all time, and they were using ancient Harpsichords and Pipe Organs. Really, it's not your equipment that counts in electronic music... it's all in how you use it. That said, I'll shut up for now! :) Warmest regards, -Jake CYBERSCORES by Virtuoso ~Pro-Quality MIDI for Video Game and Film ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 04:50:58 -0600 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: =cw4t7abs Subject: who do...can't hose Those Re: Th Re: Th Re: Th Re: Th Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Well, I've been able to churn out some pretty respectable stuff from a 486 >running Cakewalk, and Mike's words do ring true - You need to focus on the >instructor and the curriculum of any music course. dze !nstruktor + dze kurr!kulum == dzat wh!ch 1 muzt b !nstruktd !n2 abandon!ng w!th mad abandon. >Put it this way - >Beethoven, Bach, Mozart - they wrote some of the most well-loved music of all >time, and they were using ancient Harpsichords and Pipe Organs. proov !t. >Really, it's >not your equipment that counts in electronic music... !z not dze logik &|| meaning !n ur statement dzat kountz. ->it's all in how you use |>you use _>it's all >>in how you use _->it. > That said, I'll shut up for now! :) > Warmest regards, > -Jake > > CYBERSCORES by Virtuoso cyberkrap. by. dze > ~Pro-Quality MIDI for Video Game and Film |!ndustri| != dze pro. mais. dze anti.pro. dzat. kountz++. infinite loop smakx dze heap. humanzlakc[] - m9ndfukc.d3c!beL r3kordz sukx. hTTp://www.god-emil.dk/=cw4t7abs ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:05:14 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mr LWalsh Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Those who can't do... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit well said Jake!!! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:57:01 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Charles Shriner Subject: Re: Those who can't do... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a quite powerful DAW and Synthesis workstation. However the majority of my compositional work is done in my head and on paper (not including improvisations) prior to sitting down at the instruments. The composer is responsible for the content. Instruments do not improve my ability to compose but the higher quality the instrument the higher the quality of music I can realize. Charles ccps@iquest.net ****************************************************************** All that is not information, not redundancy, not form and not restraints is noise, the only possible source of new patterns." -- Bateson, Mind and Nature - A Necessary Unity, 1979