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I HOPE SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:01:59 -0400 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: jacky schreiber Subject: RV: 27e Concours de Bourges / 27th Bourges Competition MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi to all. I find this interesting for some of you, those who received this info by other means, my apologies. best jacky schreiber jackysch@ven.net http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1094 icq: 11578739 -----Mensaje original----- De: ime-bourges Fecha: lunes, 07 de febrero de 2000 9:34 Asunto: 27e Concours de Bourges / 27th Bourges Competition >Message bilingue - Bilingual message > > >Chère Amie, Cher Ami, > >En 2000, l¹Institut International de Musique Electroacoustique de Bourges >fêtera ses 30 années d¹existence. C¹est en effet en septembre 1970 que le >GMEB s¹est constitué et a commencé ses activités. De création, de diffusion >et de recherche ; très vite il s¹est ouvert aux échanges et relations >internationales. L¹année suivante, il créait le 1er Festival International >des Musiques Expérimentales et en 1973 le Concours International de Musique >Electroacoustique, le premier du genre, l¹une et l¹autre manifestations >internationales annuelles. > >Le 27e Concours 2000 est ouvert. Vous en trouverez la présentation et le >règlement complet sur le site internet de l¹IMEB http://www.gmeb.fr ou sur >demande à notre adresse. La date limite de réception des éléments à Bourges >pour y participer est fixée au 26 avril 2000. > >Issu de la création et de la recherche en musique électroacoustique et >développé dans cette dialectique de l¹instrument et de la composition, >l¹instrumentarium électroacoustique d¹aujourd¹hui est non seulement très >riche mais ouvert et matière pour différentes expressions, formes >artistiques et créations plurielles. >Le Concours de Bourges s¹attache à relever et révéler les développements et >les voies nouvelles qui se manifestent et s¹épanouissent ainsi. >L¹élargissement de la musique électroacoustique aux arts sonores >électroacoustiques comme genres de création rapprochés dans le Concours >n¹est pas une perte d¹identité mais la prise en compte, au-delà des métiers >et compétences spécifiques des créateurs (compositeur, artiste sonore, >performeur, informaticien sonore, ) de cette créativité devenue si >intensément multiforme et plurielle. Ce n¹est plus la seule pratique >instrumentale-technique (professionnelle ou amateur) qui différencie, mais >les projets, leur élaboration, et inextricablement liés à leurs formes et >modes de diffusion, de relation au public. > >Le Concours 2000 s¹adresse ainsi à tout candidat français ou étranger, >compositeur, artiste sonore ou performeur. >Le Concours est organisé en trois Degrés correspondant à trois classes d¹âge >doté de trois ensembles de récompenses. >Les candidats doivent choisir de concourir dans un seul des trois Degrés du >Concours et aux conditions du Degré choisi : > > >Le Degré I ­ Résidence : s¹adresse aux candidats âgés de 18 ans au minimum à >24 ans maximum ou étudiants sans limite d¹âge maximum. Ce Degré ne comporte >pas de catégories. Le but de ce Degré est l¹aide à la formation, la >circulation et le voyage de jeunes lauréats et leur confrontation/découverte >de nouvelles techniques et idées musicales en des contextes culturels >différents sous d¹autres horizons. > >Le Degré II - Trivium (A et B) : s¹adresse aux candidats âgés de 25 ans et >plus. Ce Degré comporte 6 catégories. L¹¦uvre doit obligatoirement concourir >dans l¹une de celles-ci. Le but de ce Degré est le soutien à la création et >la promotion des lauréats, la valorisation de leurs ¦uvres et le >développement de leur carrière. > >Trivium A : Oeuvres de Musique ou d¹Art Sonore Electroacoustiques pour le >Concert > 1er catégorie : ¦uvres d¹esthétique formelle > 2e catégorie : ¦uvres d¹esthétique à programme > 3e catégorie : ¦uvres avec dispositifs et instruments > >Trivium B : Oeuvres de Musique ou d¹Art Sonore Electroacoustiques appliqués > 4e catégorie : ¦uvres pour la danse ou le théâtre > 5e catégorie : ¦uvres pour l¹installation ou l¹environnement > 6e catégorie : ¦uvres pour le multimédia > > >Degré III ­ Magisterium : s¹adresse aux candidats justifiant d¹une >expérience professionnelle d¹un minimum de 20 années dans les domaines de la >musique ou de l¹art sonore électroacoustiques. Ce Degré ne comporte pas de >catégories. Le but de ce Degré est la promotion de lauréats affirmés et la >diffusion à vocation historique et pédagogique d¹¦uvres qui peuvent former >des repères dans l¹évolution de la musique et des arts sonores >électroacoustiques. > >Vous pouvez prendre connaissance des récompenses financières et >promotionnelles, édition, diffusion et invitation sur le verso de l¹affiche >jointe, ou complètement sur le site internet. > >Pour concourir : chaque oeuvre devra obligatoirement être accompagnée des >formulaires d¹inscription A et B dûment remplis et signés par le candidat. >Les formulaires sont à télécharger depuis notre site et à éditer par >vous-même sur votre imprimante. Dans le cas où vous ne pourriez accéder au >site, sur votre demande et en précisant le Degré dans lequel vous souhaitez >concourir, nous vous ferons parvenir le règlement et les formulaires >d¹inscription . > >Le Projet d¹¦uvre ouverte internationale 2000 : " Sonneries utopiques pour >le prochain millénaire ", tel est le titre du 2e versant du projet musical >lancé l¹an dernier sur le siècle s¹achevant et qui cette année a pour sujet >le millénaire qui s¹ouvre. L¹¦uvre à créer doit être d¹une durée de 5 à 7 >minutes et sera donnée en création mondiale lors du 30e Festival >International des Musiques et Créations Electroniques de Bourges, " Synthèse >2000 ". Vous trouverez tous les détails de participation dans l¹appel >également ci-joint. > >30e Festival International des Musiques et Créations Electroniques de >Bourges, " Synthèse 2000 " : il aura lieu du vendredi 9 au dimanche 18 juin. >Plus que jamais, il constituera une large plate-forme internationale >professionnelle ouverte sur les genres et les styles d¹aujourd¹hui. >Nous espérons vous y voir nombreux et vous tiendrons au courant du >programme, par internet interposé. > >Meilleurs v¦ux pour l¹année 2000. > >Cordialement, > >Françoise Barrière, >Directrice de l¹IMEB > > >Dear Friend, > >In 2000, the Institut International de Musique Electroacoustique de Bourges >is celebrating its 30th fundation anniversary since the GMEB was constituted >in September 1970 and began its activities. Besides its activities in >creation, diffusion and research, it enlarged them to international >exchanges and relations. Then, the following year, it created the 1st >International Experimental Music Festival and in 1973 the International >Electroacoustic Music Competition, the first in this way. Both of these >international events are yearly. > >The 27th Competition 2000 is now open. Presentation and integral rules are >available on the IMEB's web site : http://www.gmeb.fr or upon request at our >address. Deadline for entries in Bourges is: 26 April 2000. > >The electroacoustic instrumentarium of today is the result of much research >in electroacoustics and was developed in the framework of the dialectic >relation between instrument and composition itself. It is not only very rich >but also very open and can furnish the material for extremely different >kinds of expression and forms of artistic creation. >The Bourges Competition is dedicated to documenting and discovering new >paths and developments within the electroacoustic field. The expansion of >electroacoustic music to sonic arts as a category in the Competition does >not mean a loss of identity but rather a recognition of the creative energy >which has become so intensely multifaceted, regardless of the individual >competencies of the authors (composer, sound artist, performer, digital >sound specialist). It is no longer the specifically technical >instrumentarium which distinguishes these works from others, but the >projects themselves and their elaboration, inextricably related to their >forms and modes of diffusion and to their relation to their audiences. > >The Competition 2000 is open to French or foreign entrant, composer, sound >artist or performer. >The Competition is organised in three Sections corresponding to three age >groups, endowed with three sets of specific awards. >Entrants choose to compete in one of the three Sections of the Competition >and according to the conditions of the Section. > >Section I ­ Residence : is open to entrants between 18 minimum and 24 years >old maximum or to students regardless of age. There is no category in this >Section. >The goal of this Section is to encourage young laureates to travel in the >interest of their further training in order to discover and confront new >horizons, techniques and musical ideas in different cultural contexts. > > >Section II - Trivium (A et B) : in this Section, entrants must be 25 years >old and over. The Section comprises 6 categories. Works enter in one of >them. The goal of this Section is to encourage and promote laureates and to >take part in the development of their career. > >Trivium A : Works of electroacoustic music or sonic art for concert >presentation > 1st category : abstract music or sonic art > 2nd category : programme music or sonic art > 3rd category : works with live elements and performers > >Trivium B : Interdisciplinary works of electroacoustic music or sonic art >4th category : works for dance or theater >5th category : works for installation or environment >6th category : works for multimedia > > >Section III ­ Magisterium : is open to entrants having at least 20 years of >professional experience in the fields of electroacoustic music and sonic >art. There is no category in this Section. >The goal of this Section is the promotion of established entrants and the >diffusion of works that might become milestones in the history of the >evolution of electroacoustic music and sonic art. > > >Extracts of awards in cash, in promotion, publishing, diffusion and >invitation are available in the enclosed leaflet or completely on Internet. > >To compete : works have to be accompanied to registration forms A and B, >duly filled out and signed by the entrant. Registration forms have to be >downloaded on our web site and then printed on your own printer. In case you >could not access our web site, upon your request, we will send you documents >(rules and registration forms) of the Section in which you want to make your >entry > >The international open work project 2000 : "Utopian fanfares for the next >Millennium" is the other side of the mountain of the musical project upon >the millennium that is now beginning. The duration of the work must be >between 5 to 7 minutes. The work will be programmed in world premiere during >the 30th Festival International des Musiques et Créations Electroniques de >Bourges "Synthèse 2000". Conditions of participation in this Project are >available in the enclosed leaflet. > >The 30th Festival International des Musiques et Créations Electroniques de >Bourges, " Synthèse 2000 " : will be held from Friday 9 to Sunday 18 June >2000. As never, it will represent a large international professional >platform open to trends and styles of today. >We hope to meet you during this event and will keep you informed of its >programme through internet. > >Best wishes for the year 2000, > >Sincerely, > > > >Françoise Barrière, >Directrice de l¹IMEB > > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:54:39 -0000 Reply-To: fmr@mail.telepac.pt Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Fernando Manuel Rodrigues Subject: Help requested MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Guys: I remember to read about someone that tested (and published the results on the Net) several compress file formats, including MP3, WMF and the Yamaha own VQF? Does someone know where can i find information about it? Also - where to look for the specs of the new MPEG-4? Fernando Manuel Rodrigues ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:26:07 -0600 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Jeremy Subject: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is there any way to descompress mp3s into .wav files, without screwing around with re-recording the soundcard's output? I.e. is there any software that does this? Also, is there any software out there in which you can specify math equations (3sinx/2cosx, stuff like that) and it will play the resulting wave? ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:55:05 -0700 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Mike Metlay Subject: Re: samplers in emusic In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Apologies for getting to this so late. I've been off EMUSIC-L for a month and am just now getting caught up. Eric Harnden wrote, a long time ago: >having for some time seen synthesizers as my native instrument, i have >mostly been a bit of a purist. the actual waveform synthesis has always >been at least as important to me as control or subsequent processing, and >so i have always been most attracted to devices and processes which have >some unique or useful character in that area. hence, i own a prophecy and a >k5000, among other things, and lust mightily after a waldorf. along the >same lines, i have always looked somewhat askance at samplers as >instruments. of course, this has been conditioned by their generally poor >implementation and usage, but in the main i have not seen them as good for >much beyond larry fast's assertion that they provide for capture of >difficult or interesting timbres, for use in further synthesis. in that >mode, i have used them, with varying degrees of success. about the simpler >playback engines, such as most of those by korg or kurweil, let me remain >silent. in some implementations that provide truly unique processing, such >as the morpheus' formant filters or computer-based granular synthesis, i >have at least found some pleasure. I think that this is somewhat similar to my feelings, except that I have avoided samplers because they are designed for cliche rather than originality and the effort required to make one do something really cool has been too great. I know good sampler music and bad sampler music, and realize that to do good sampler music requires more time and effort than I have right now, so I've stayed away. I do own a sampler that has managed to stay in my studio longer than any other in the past 16 years, though: a SampleCell II card inside my Mac. It sits there safe inside the case, waiting for me to use it or not, it doesn't care. I own several devices that could be classed as "sample players", including a K5000. In almost all of these cases, though, the sampled material are used to fill out other textures, or can be so badly broken as to be unrecognizable. In this, I have my own spin on Larry Fast's take of using them for more interesting synthesis material. >recently, however, i have found myself looking about for means to >incorporate one into my system, either by extending usage of my computer, >or by simply purchasing one. as i examine this apparent change of heart in >the light of my prior attitude, i discover not so much an *use* of samplers >that i find particularly meritorious, as an *approach* to them - a sense of >their role in this artist's toolkit. > >in most conventional arts, repetition on some level is often considered a >critical compositional element. in dance, repetition of a movement is >taught, on the intermediate level at least, as a means of emphasising its >statement and of generally structuring the time it inhabits. in painting, >classically-trained students are informed of the principles of visual >harmony, which include the notion of echoing forms, lines, and spaces. in >music, of course, repetition is generally a key component on many levels- >note, phrase, and movement. it occurs to me that, when handled well, such >repetition can have the same effect as a painter's form-echo - it is not >necessarily overt, but somehow instances of a pattern, even if modulated, >meet in the mind to form a greater pattern. great instances of this, of >course, are fugal and symphonic, and i would not assert the work of any >electronic musician i have yet heard as reaching that degree of >sophistication. > >nonetheless, some musicians do seem to me to use their samplers a bit less >as loop and swoop machines, and a bit more as paintbrushes. one that comes >to mind is candice pacheco, late of d'cuckoo, now a solo artist and >producer (she is credited as the "queen of tweak" on an album whose i title >i do not now recall). or the techno ensemble fluke, and certainly some >moments of front 242 or fsol at their best, can demonstrate the sampler as >more than just the source of a locked groove or instrument stab. and even >in some ways mitchell froom is of this mind. "Duchess of Tweek" is the term I'm familiar with, not "Queen", but I digress. (Tweek is a product for cleaning electrical contacts.) I would also point you back to the days when samplers cost a lot of money and were the tools of people who had to work hard with them to achieve results. There was very little laziness then because the work-saving tools didn't exist yet. The Art Of Noise is a good example. ZOOLOOK by Jean-Michel Jarre, even today, is looked at and headscratched over by his fans, who say, "Where did THAT come from?" The users of the Fairlight and Synclavier in their early years are notable as well. Some of it has become cliched in retrospect due to overuse, but that hopefully doesn't ruin the amazing work of Buffy Sainte-Marie, Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, Todd Rundgren, and others. Such artists are harder to find in this day of sample loop libraries, but there you go. >such is how sampling appears to me when i consider it in my own music. i >want a tone-hose. something i can use to inject a little pre-mixed color at >will. i have rhythm generators aplenty. lord knows i have synthesizers. >beyond drums, sampled acoustic instruments have little interest for me. >what i want is to take that sound i just created by thonking a half-second >tone of the sound of a scsi drive dying, then metasynthing it until its >eyeballs popped, and *use it*. although, come to think of it, in essence >that may not be so very far from what larry fast said in the first place. > >but something sticks. your thoughts? I have a number of them. First off, in this day and age it's no longer necessary to use a hardware sampler to do this stuff, and in fact can be disadvantageous to do so for what you want to do. The modern hardware is (with one exception, see below) designed to loop and multisample quickly for DJs and remixers, the sort of musicians whose work I don't see you wanting to emulate (pardon the pun). Software is a bit more flexible, costs less, and can be neatly put out of the way when not needed. If you're using th0nk and Metasynth, I assume you have a Mac with some half-decent CPU capability. A number of sampler programs exist for the Mac, ranging from simple to fairly obtrusive, and one may suit your needs. I recommend strongly that you first try Stella9000 from Koblo. Unity DS-1 from BitHeadz is a bit more intrusive into an audio system on a Mac, but is very powerful and runs transparently as part of a session as opposed to being wired in like Stella. Some of the audio sequencers now have samplers/sample players as virtual instruments, too: Cubase and Logic at least. If you prefer hardware, consider an old SampleCell II card, NuBus or PCI as you need. They're very neat to work with and aren't in your way when you don't want one. Standalone hardware that just "lets you use it" is a tougher conundrum, because simplification can lead to difficulty... an oversimplified UI is no help. This, I think, is the root of your problem, and everything I've said up to now has been dancing around it and hoping to point you in a direction that might free you of the worry. I have owned, um, lemme see, at least five samplers over the past 16 years, and used many more. Because I largely think as you do, and grow frustrated when the processes most sampler-users see as needful merely get in my way. I will soon have another in my studio, the new A5000 from Yamaha, and while I think I will have fun with it in the short term, I anticipate no major paradigm shifts (other than perhaps to start thinking of Yamaha as a sampler company on par with Akai and E-mu, which is what they want). Perhaps the one exception to the rule will be the new Roland VariPhrase, which purports to have a great number of tone-walloping tools right on board. But it will cost over $3000 and it's not certain how easy it will be to use. Very simple tabletop samplers now abound: the next! DJS-24, the new Korg Electribe sampler, etc ad nauseam. I suppose that if your sample is tweaked sufficiently on the Mac first, these will do as well as any, and they're certainly not a huge drain on your wallet. But will they do the job? Could you describe your ideal practice for us, Eric? You did fine in talking about how to manipulate the sounds, but when you got to "use it" you lost us. What would you like to do in order to "use" your sound? Just press a button? Play a keyboard? Create a repetitive pattern quickly and intuitively? What? mike -- I've got my first real piece of Ensoniq kit, if you count the Fizmo as real. It's actually too quirky even for me. It seems to be ideally suited for alien porno soundtracks or something like that. (e. hallgrimsson) ========================================================================== Mike Metlay * ATOMIC CITY * P.O. Box 17083 * Boulder, CO * 80308-0083 * USA + atomic@tesser.com * 800-924-ATOM * http://www.atomiccity.com + ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:55:08 -0000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000212092607.007c2600@lawrence.ixks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Winamp does the mp3 -> wav conversion. Just select the proper output plug-in, i.e. "wave out" in the preferences. Re math equations, Goldwave does (did?) just that. -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, Home: mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| Work, preferred: mouat@markdata.pt |___| http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/8804 -----Original Message----- From: Electronic Music Discussion List [mailto:EMUSIC-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU]On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 3:26 PM To: EMUSIC-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? Is there any way to descompress mp3s into .wav files, without screwing around with re-recording the soundcard's output? I.e. is there any software that does this? Also, is there any software out there in which you can specify math equations (3sinx/2cosx, stuff like that) and it will play the resulting wave? ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:32:36 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Brian Good Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Also, is there any software out there in which you can specify math >equations (3sinx/2cosx, stuff like that) and it will play the resulting >wave? Mathematica will do that. But it costs as much as a pretty good synth. Brian Good W: bgood@sundagger.lerc.nasa.gov H: bgood@earthlink.net F: bgood@alum.mit.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:05:52 -0000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But indeed it is worth it... Ever wondered how Riemann's Zeta function sounds? -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, Home: mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| Work, preferred: mouat@markdata.pt |___| http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/8804 -----Original Message----- From: Electronic Music Discussion List [mailto:EMUSIC-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU]On Behalf Of Brian Good Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 12:33 AM To: EMUSIC-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? >Also, is there any software out there in which you can specify math >equations (3sinx/2cosx, stuff like that) and it will play the resulting >wave? Mathematica will do that. But it costs as much as a pretty good synth. Brian Good W: bgood@sundagger.lerc.nasa.gov H: bgood@earthlink.net F: bgood@alum.mit.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 07:33:37 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Ric Carter Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulo Mouat" Hmm, there's an old DOS freeware package that does that, I don't recall the name right now... a C-like language, you program your equations and the language builds .WAV files that realize the math. Let's see, what is that... WavePool? I think that's it. > But indeed it is worth it... Ever wondered how Riemann's Zeta function > sounds? > > >Also, is there any software out there in which you can specify math > >equations (3sinx/2cosx, stuff like that) and it will play the resulting > >wave? > > Mathematica will do that. But it costs as much as a pretty good synth. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 07:44:02 -0800 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Ric Carter Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, it's WAVEPOOL, indexed on WinSite: http://www.winsite.com/games/sounds/page23.html available in little tiny 60k zip file: http://www.winsite.com/info/pc/win3/sounds/wavepool.zip/index.html described as: 60K 04/15/92 WAVEPOOL programming language for creating sound files Enjoy. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:59:10 -0500 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: tapehiss <102465.41@COMPUSERVE.COM> Organization: tapehiss Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.netstudio.com.au/cyberhome/wavegen.htm It's 16 bit and not real fancy, but it'll do what you're looking for I think. Hope this helps Scott Paulo Mouat wrote: > > > But indeed it is worth it... Ever wondered how Riemann's Zeta function > sounds? > > -- > __|__ > ___\_/___ > ___ Paulo Mouat, Home: mouat@mail.telepac.pt > |___| Work, preferred: mouat@markdata.pt > |___| http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/8804 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Electronic Music Discussion List > [mailto:EMUSIC-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU]On Behalf Of Brian Good > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 12:33 AM > To: EMUSIC-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? > > >Also, is there any software out there in which you can specify math > >equations (3sinx/2cosx, stuff like that) and it will play the resulting > >wave? > > Mathematica will do that. But it costs as much as a pretty good synth. > > Brian Good > W: bgood@sundagger.lerc.nasa.gov > H: bgood@earthlink.net > F: bgood@alum.mit.edu -- ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Visit the the home of Hebephrenic, The Hot Buttered Elves, & Sunshine http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tape_hiss ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:05:07 +1000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: David Rodger Subject: Re: samplers in emusic In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mike Metlay wrote (in reply to Harnden): >I would >also point you back to the days when samplers cost a lot of money and were >the tools of people who had to work hard with them to achieve results. >There was very little laziness then because the work-saving tools didn't >exist yet. The Art Of Noise is a good example. ZOOLOOK by Jean-Michel >Jarre, even today, is looked at and headscratched over by his fans, who >say, "Where did THAT come from?" Funnily enough, that's the only JMJ record I like! >The users of the Fairlight and Synclavier in their early years are notable >as well. Some of it has become cliched in retrospect due to overuse, but >that hopefully doesn't ruin the amazing work of Buffy Sainte-Marie, Kate >Bush, Peter Gabriel, Todd Rundgren, and others. Buffy Sainte_Marie? Clearly I missed something. The last time I saw her was when she strummed a guitar on Sesame Street! No electronics in sight! If you've any recommendations, Mike... Regards, David David Rodger: auricle@alphalink.com.au Audio Engineer, RLSS Trainer, Writing & Research http://www.alphalink.com.au/~auricle http://www.alphalink.com.au/~adzohu ======================================================================== Keep e-mail simple: just say NO to styled text, HTML, ms-tnef, .vcf, .url ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:21:39 -0600 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Jeremy Subject: math equations? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000212092607.007c2600@lawrence.ixks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks, everyone, for the responses. At 09:26 AM 2/12/00 -0600, you wrote: >Is there any way to descompress mp3s into .wav files, without screwing >around with re-recording the soundcard's output? I.e. is there any software >that does this? > >Also, is there any software out there in which you can specify math >equations (3sinx/2cosx, stuff like that) and it will play the resulting >wave? > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:22:55 GMT0BST Reply-To: M.J.Rootes@shu.ac.uk Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Martin Rootes Organization: Sheffield Hallam University Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000212092607.007c2600@lawrence.ixks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:26:07 -0600 Send reply to: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Jeremy Subject: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? To: EMUSIC-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > Is there any way to descompress mp3s into .wav files, without screwing > around with re-recording the soundcard's output? I.e. is there any software > that does this? > > Also, is there any software out there in which you can specify math > equations (3sinx/2cosx, stuff like that) and it will play the resulting > wave? There's a rather neat little software synth called Syd - the oscilator units allow you to specify an equation. see: http://www.jbum.com/syd The program doesn't produce sounds in realtime though, it creates a sound file in memory (I think), which you can then play back or save. Martin Rootes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Rootes - Senior Systems Programmer/Analyst, Sheffield Hallam University Email : M.Rootes@shu.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:49:26 -0000 Reply-To: fmr@mail.telepac.pt Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Fernando Manuel Rodrigues Subject: FW: Help requested MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry for double posting this, but since nobody replied, I wonder if it went through... -----Original Message----- From: Fernando Manuel Rodrigues [mailto:fmr@mail.telepac.pt] Sent: sábado, 12 de Fevereiro de 2000 12:55 To: EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Help requested Dear Guys: I remember to read about someone that tested (and published the results on the Net) several compress file formats, including MP3, WMF and the Yamaha own VQF. Does someone know where can I find these results? Also, does someone know where can i find information about it? Also - where to look for the specs of the new MPEG-4? Regards Fernando Manuel Rodrigues ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:10:41 +0000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Michael Koderisch Subject: Re: FW: Help requested Comments: To: fmr@mail.telepac.pt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Have a look here: http://drogo.cselt.it/mpeg/standards/mpeg-4/mpeg-4.htm And here's an interesting forum about it: http://www.ccir.ed.ac.uk/mpeg4/ Michael Fernando Manuel Rodrigues wrote: > Sorry for double posting this, but since nobody replied, I wonder if it went > through... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fernando Manuel Rodrigues [mailto:fmr@mail.telepac.pt] > Sent: sábado, 12 de Fevereiro de 2000 12:55 > To: EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU > Subject: Help requested > > Dear Guys: > > I remember to read about someone that tested (and published the results on > the Net) several compress file formats, including MP3, WMF and the Yamaha > own VQF. Does someone know where can I find these results? > > Also, does someone know where can i find information about it? Also - where > to look for the specs of the new MPEG-4? > > Regards > > Fernando Manuel Rodrigues ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:20:16 +0000 Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Michael Koderisch Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? Comments: To: M.J.Rootes@shu.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The CD-writing software "Feurio" allows you to decompress .mp3 into .wav or even burn them directly to CD. The software is shareware. You just have to click "try" sometimes, that's all. Or you can buy it, if you are annoyed by that... Anyway, here it is: http://www.feurio.com/English/index.shtml I heard about a little program, that does just the conversion. I'll have a look for it again. So long and thanks for all the fish... Michael Martin Rootes wrote: > Date sent: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:26:07 -0600 > Send reply to: Electronic Music Discussion List > From: Jeremy > Subject: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? > To: EMUSIC-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > > > Is there any way to descompress mp3s into .wav files, without screwing > > around with re-recording the soundcard's output? I.e. is there any software > > that does this? > > > > Also, is there any software out there in which you can specify math > > equations (3sinx/2cosx, stuff like that) and it will play the resulting > > wave? > There's a rather neat little software synth called Syd - the oscilator units allow > you to specify an equation. > > see: http://www.jbum.com/syd > > The program doesn't produce sounds in realtime though, it creates a sound file > in memory (I think), which you can then play back or save. > > Martin Rootes. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Martin Rootes - Senior Systems Programmer/Analyst, Sheffield Hallam University > Email : M.Rootes@shu.ac.uk > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:24:11 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Robert Boyer Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/12/00 8:12:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, jmartin@IXKS.COM writes: << Is there any way to descompress mp3s into .wav files, without screwing around with re-recording the soundcard's output? I.e. is there any software that does this? >> Try MPEG Suite from Electronic Cosmo... I just finished doing that same thing as a matter of fact... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:27:51 EST Reply-To: Electronic Music Discussion List Sender: Electronic Music Discussion List From: Robert Boyer Subject: Re: mp3 -> wav? also.. math equations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/12/00 5:16:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, bgood@EARTHLINK.NET writes: << Mathematica will do that. But it costs as much as a pretty good synth. >> I use Mathematica all the time (for "math" that is...) and i had no idea it would play back actual sounds by entering mathematical expressions... please tell me how to do this...