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Subject: Re: Michael Moore Responds to All This Crap
Ruby Sinreich wrote:
> > todd pissed yeah I'm pissed I think your attitude towards Moore sucks
> > rocks morman
>
> What exactly do think my "attitude" toward Moore is? Weeks ago I said I
> would rather drop this whole thing.
I can see why; I thought your first couple of posts were ridiculously
petulant. Even when you said you would rather drop it, you were pouting:
>> We all know that any publicity is good publicity, so I had planned to
minimize this discussion on our show yesterday but failed. I may send
him a tape of yesterday's show in which we spent 20 - 30 minutes venting and
bitching about him. As if he cares. Whatever. I wish I could just
drop it...<<
And I just *loved* this bit of "attitude" (which you re-posted to
alt.tv.tv-nation two weeks *after* Moore's talk):
>> And he's a lazy whining bastard. When I asked him to help us out (since
he had already wasted many many hours of our time) he sarts in: "Well,
I've been up since 5, and I'm sooo tired, and I'm overweight, ..."
Mind-numbingly pathetic. Poor guy, I wonder how much $dough$ he made
that night. :(
By the way, if you liked his speech, you should buy his book, since
about 80% of his talk was almost verbatim.
So don't look forward to hearing him on Northern Hemisphere Live [my
talk show] anytime soon.
I'm still glad he's out there doing what he does, but I can't consider
myself a fan anymore, since I now that just a talented asshole, but on
our side.<<
"Lazy whining bastard"? And you ask "what exactly" do I think your attitude
towards Moore is?! Jumpin' Jehosaphat!
Oh, yeah, this was nice, too:
>>I think he's a brilliant man and I would love to have an
in-depth conversation/interview with him, but I can't do that if I have
to kiss his ass to get him to listen to me. When he's ready, he can
call us.<<
Was all that shit posted before or after the "vicious e-mail from his
account"? Before, right?
Nothing you've posted since, Ruby, has led me to believe that the situation
you got so upset about (I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when you
confronted Moore at the signing table, bet that was pleasant) was anything
other than normal everyday miscommunication, exacerbated by the
disorganization (and perhaps outright moronic rudeness) of the CUAB folks.
Hardly deserving of what you spewed at/about Moore, although I'm sure you
felt good in your self-righteousness.
Look, a.m.c-h folks, I'm sorry if this is bringing anyone down, but I really
think that this has been one of the saddest little chapters I've ever read
around here. Whether I show it all the time or not, I fucking *love* this
group, but this bullshit just really stunned me.
This all didn't really get inflamed
> until I received a vicious e-mail from his account a week ago. I
> responded to him personally. I didn't forward it to the list until I
> saw that the same thing was going on here, and I thought people would be
> interested to see it.
Do you still believe that he sent that email? Then I guess I'm still confused
about which messages were his and which weren't, but my understanding is that
the e-mail in question was clearly not from the real Moore.
todd insert wiseass pomo comment about realness here morman
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