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Re: Brashears on Hanson
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Subject: Re: Brashears on Hanson
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From: dlj@inforamp.net (David Lloyd-Jones)
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Date: 6 Dec 1996 02:09:13 GMT
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Article: 16999 of alt.sustainable.agriculture
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On Fri, 06 Dec 96 00:24:24 GMT, charliew@hal-pc.org (charliew) wrote:
>You have to realize that
Charlie,
Get yourself under control. Is there a scintilla of evidence that I
don't "realise" all the stuff you retail out here?
> there is a fundamental problem here regarding
>where to draw the line.
I wouldn't call that a line. My line, your guess, their fifth beer.
> Nature will support a certain population of
>"natural" animal species.
An uncertain population. "Species" has no meaning, or means what you
waht it to mean.
> These species will urinate and poop where they
>see fit. This excrement will have the same effect as what you are
>complaining about.
Depends on the density. One ungulate to four acres, no problem. Feed
lots in Omaha, and New Orleans is uninhabitable -- until they get the
law changed.
> In fact, I have already read a posting (some months
>ago) about too many wild ducks congregating at a particular location, and
>fouling (no pun intended) the water supply of that location. If such a
>natural activity occurs, and has occurred for eons, why can't the
>environmentalists get it through their heads that *nothing* should be done
>about it? Or are you telling me that the ultimate aim of the
>environmentalists is to *control* what happens in nature, rather than let
>nature take its own course? If the answer to this question is "yes", the
>enviros are more self deluded than even I imagined.
Charlie, I've gotta say, you have trespassed on one of my pet
bigotries: anybody who ever says "no pun intended" is an asshole. I'm
sorry, the only ay you can redeem yourself is by reading, maybe, Trout
Fishing in America, either the book or the poems. Maybe Sylvia Path's
suicide book. Whatever. Getchaself some soul, dammit... :-)
>Have a nice day.
Always do. It's the night before the note is due at the bank that is
hard.
Cheers,
-dlj.
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