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Re: Seeking a reference-my last ditch effort



A reply about The National Organization of Raw Materials which did not make
it past the non-human sanet gatekeepers...

The URL listed is not correct, and I could not find a web page for the
organization.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu [mailto:owner-sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu] 
Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 1:41 PM
To: sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu
From: Mary Firestone <mfirestone@jsi.com>

>
Newsgroups: apc.bitl.sanet
Subject: Re: Seeking a reference-my last ditch effort
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 13:32:42 -0400
Organization: Institute for Global Communications
To: loscott@envsci.rutgers.EDU

The National Organization of Raw Materials has a website
http://www.normeconomics.com and lists as a contact person their president:
Randy Cook
680 E 5 Point Highway
Charlotte, MI 48813
Phone: 517-543-0111
E-Mail: rccook@compuserve.com

loscott@envsci.rutgers.EDU wrote:
> 
> Dear Sanet folk,
> 
> My research, and all of my thinking about sustainability, involves flows
> of material and energy. Unfortunately, much more economic data is
> available than the more commodity-specific information in units of tons
> or bushels or atoms of carbon. One reference recommended to me simply
> cannot be found.  I have been looking high and low, both alone and with
> the help of several expert librarians for any leads on the following
> publication:
> 
> The Nature of Wealth: Discovering the Physics Within an Economic System
> 
> by Fred Lundgren and Jerome Friemel
> National Organization of Raw Materials, Kansas City, Missouri: 1994.
> 
> I can't find the publication, its authors, or this organization.
> Assuming it exists, I bet some one of you out there can provide a lead.
> I would sure appreciate that, along with any other tips on how to get
> (where to look for) information on material flows more generally.
> 
> Somewhat in line with the ongoing discussions, I believe the
> dissociation of mass balance from monetary economics makes practically
> all our discussions essentially skew lines in space.  In particular the
> word "efficient."  The concept of "efficiency" within economics is at
> best unrelated to, and at worst, diametrically opposed to, the
> understanding that the physical scientist and the general public attach
> to the word.
> 
> Thanks for any help with my reference-locating problem!
> 
> Writing from NJ, where I planted a green manure crop (cowpea and
> buckwheat) on June 11 and nary a drop of rain has fallen from that day
> to this.
> The amazing thing to me is that those darned cowpeas are actually
> growing!  I can't explain it.  Everything else is brown and crunchy.
> 
> Loren M.
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