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From rkimsey@fenrir.ces.ncsu.edu Sat Oct  4 12:07:07 1997
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:17:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ray Kimsey 
To: sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu
Subject: Major change in SANET-MG


The Sanet-MG mail list has been moved from an almanac maintained
list to a majordomo maintained list to add some new features
including a digest format. Sending mail to the list is the same
as always. See message footer for other instructions or to receive
more help on majordomo commands: email majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu
with the one word comand "help".

-- 
Ray Kimsey 
Ray_Kimsey@ncsu.edu         "Selfishness has never been admired..."
Phone: 919.515.8449                                     C.S. Lewis
Fax:   919.515.3777
Raleigh, NC  USA             http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/rkimsey

To Unsubscribe:  Email majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu with "unsubscribe sanet-mg".
To Subscribe to Digest: Email majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu
with "subscribe sanet-mg-digest".

From san@nal.usda.gov Fri Oct  3 23:43:38 1997
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 14:52:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Andy Clark, SAN    Coordinator" 
To: sanet-ad@ces.ncsu.edu
Subject: About Majordomo (LONG, but important)

SANetters:

As you have seen from a previous message, sanet-mg has been moved from an 
ALMANAC system to a MAJORDOMO system.  While this move is *invisible* to 
the daily operations of sanet, it does change the way that you, the 
subscriber, will send commands such as the UNSUBSCRIBE command.  

THIS IS IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT SANET-MG.  YOU MAY WANT TO PRINT IT 
AND/OR SAVE IT.  You will need it in the future.  This information 
replaces what you received when you first subscribed to sanet.

In addition to my few comments below, I am also forwarding the help file 
from Majordomo.  

I retrieved this help message from majordomo, by sending mail to 
Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu with a line saying

	help

in the message body.

WE ALL KNOW by now that there is one e-mail address which sends mail to 
all subscribers, and this has not changed:  sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu

There is another address for all other interactions with the big computer 
that runs sanet.  That big computer is now at majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu


So, TO UNSUBSCRIBE from sanet-mg, you now must send a message to:

     majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu

In the BODY of the message, type ONLY:

     unsubscribe sanet-mg


You may wish to subscribe to our digest list (sanet-mg-digest).
The digest list stores all posts to sanet-mg and distributes them
once per day. 

If you are already subscribed to sanet, you will need to 
unsubscribe and resubscribe to the digest.  This can be done in one 
message:

Send a message to:
     majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu

In the BODY of the message type:
     unsubscribe sanet-mg
     subscribe sanet-mg-digest


PLEASE read, print, save the help message below.
If you have any question, feel free to contact me directly.

Andy Clark, Ph.D.
SAN Coordinator
c/o AFSIC, Room 304
National Agricultural Library
10301 Baltimore Ave.
Beltsville, MD  20705-2351
PH:  301-504-6425
FAX: 301-504-6409
san@nal.usda.gov
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/san/


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:37:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu
To: san@nal.usda.gov
Subject: Majordomo results

--

>>>> help

This help message is being sent to you from the Majordomo mailing list
management system at Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu.

This is version 1.94.3 of Majordomo.

If you're familiar with mail servers, an advanced user's summary of
Majordomo's commands appears at the end of this message.

Majordomo is an automated system which allows users to subscribe
and unsubscribe to mailing lists, and to retrieve files from list
archives.

You can interact with the Majordomo software by sending it commands
in the body of mail messages addressed to "Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu".
Please do not put your commands on the subject line; Majordomo does
not process commands in the subject line.

You may put multiple Majordomo commands in the same mail message.
Put each command on a line by itself.

If you use a "signature block" at the end of your mail, Majordomo may
mistakenly believe each line of your message is a command; you will
then receive spurious error messages.  To keep this from happening,
either put a line starting with a hyphen ("-") before your signature,
or put a line with just the word

	end

on it in the same place.  This will stop the Majordomo software from
processing your signature as bad commands.

Here are some of the things you can do using Majordomo:

I.	FINDING OUT WHICH LISTS ARE ON THIS SYSTEM

To get a list of publicly-available mailing lists on this system, put the
following line in the body of your mail message to Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu:

	lists

Each line will contain the name of a mailing list and a brief description
of the list.

To get more information about a particular list, use the "info" command,
supplying the name of the list.  For example, if the name of the list 
about which you wish information is "demo-list", you would put the line

	info demo-list

in the body of the mail message.

II.	SUBSCRIBING TO A LIST

Once you've determined that you wish to subscribe to one or more lists on
this system, you can send commands to Majordomo to have it add you to the
list, so you can begin receiving mailings.

To receive list mail at the address from which you're sending your mail,
simply say "subscribe" followed by the list's name:

	subscribe demo-list

If for some reason you wish to have the mailings go to a different address
(a friend's address, a specific other system on which you have an account,
or an address which is more correct than the one that automatically appears 
in the "From:" header on the mail you send), you would add that address to
the command.  For instance, if you're sending a request from your work
account, but wish to receive "demo-list" mail at your personal account
(for which we will use "jqpublic@my-isp.com" as an example), you'd put
the line

	subscribe demo-list jqpublic@my-isp.com

in the mail message body.

Based on configuration decisions made by the list owners, you may be added 
to the mailing list automatically.  You may also receive notification
that an authorization key is required for subscription.  Another message
will be sent to the address to be subscribed (which may or may not be the
same as yours) containing the key, and directing the user to send a
command found in that message back to Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu.  (This can be
a bit of extra hassle, but it helps keep you from being swamped in extra
email by someone who forged requests from your address.)  You may also
get a message that your subscription is being forwarded to the list owner
for approval; some lists have waiting lists, or policies about who may
subscribe.  If your request is forwarded for approval, the list owner
should contact you soon after your request.

Upon subscribing, you should receive an introductory message, containing
list policies and features.  Save this message for future reference; it
will also contain exact directions for unsubscribing.  If you lose the
intro mail and would like another copy of the policies, send this message
to Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu:

	intro demo-list

(substituting, of course, the real name of your list for "demo-list").

III.	UNSUBSCRIBING FROM MAILING LISTS

Your original intro message contains the exact command which should be
used to remove your address from the list.  However, in most cases, you
may simply send the command "unsubscribe" followed by the list name:

	unsubscribe demo-list

(This command may fail if your provider has changed the way your
address is shown in your mail.)

To remove an address other than the one from which you're sending
the request, give that address in the command:

	unsubscribe demo-list jqpublic@my-isp.com

In either of these cases, you can tell Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu to remove
the address in question from all lists on this server by using "*"
in place of the list name:

	unsubscribe *
	unsubscribe * jqpublic@my-isp.com

IV.	FINDING THE LISTS TO WHICH AN ADDRESS IS SUBSCRIBED

To find the lists to which your address is subscribed, send this command
in the body of a mail message to Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu:

	which

You can look for other addresses, or parts of an address, by specifying
the text for which Majordomo should search.  For instance, to find which
users at my-isp.com are subscribed to which lists, you might send the
command

	which my-isp.com

Note that many list owners completely or fully disable the "which"
command, considering it a privacy violation.

V.	FINDING OUT WHO'S SUBSCRIBED TO A LIST

To get a list of the addresses on a particular list, you may use the
"who" command, followed by the name of the list:

	who demo-list

Note that many list owners allow only a list's subscribers to use the
"who" command, or disable it completely, believing it to be a privacy
violation.

VI.	RETRIEVING FILES FROM A LIST'S ARCHIVES

Many list owners keep archives of files associated with a list.  These
may include:
- back issues of the list
- help files, user profiles, and other documents associated with the list
- daily, monthly, or yearly archives for the list

To find out if a list has any files associated with it, use the "index"
command:

	index demo-list

If you see files in which you're interested, you may retrieve them by
using the "get" command and specifying the list name and archive filename.
For instance, to retrieve the files called "profile.form" (presumably a
form to fill out with your profile) and "demo-list.9611" (presumably the
messages posted to the list in November 1996), you would put the lines

	get demo-list profile.form
	get demo-list demo-list.9611

in your mail to Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu.

VII.	GETTING MORE HELP

To contact a human site manager, send mail to Majordomo-Owner@ces.ncsu.edu.
To contact the owner of a specific list, send mail to that list's
approval address, which is formed by adding "-approval" to the user-name
portion of the list's address.  For instance, to contact the list owner
for demo-list@ces.ncsu.edu, you would send mail to demo-list-approval@ces.ncsu.edu.

To get another copy of this help message, send mail to Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu
with a line saying

	help

in the message body.

VIII.	COMMAND SUMMARY FOR ADVANCED USERS

In the description below items contained in []'s are optional. When
providing the item, do not include the []'s around it.  Items in angle
brackets, such as 
, are meta-symbols that should be replaced by appropriate text without the angle brackets. It understands the following commands: subscribe [
] Subscribe yourself (or
if specified) to the named . unsubscribe [
] Unsubscribe yourself (or
if specified) from the named . "unsubscribe *" will remove you (or
) from all lists. This _may not_ work if you have subscribed using multiple addresses. get Get a file related to . index Return an index of files you can "get" for . which [
] Find out which lists you (or
if specified) are on. who Find out who is on the named . info Retrieve the general introductory information for the named . intro Retrieve the introductory message sent to new users. Non-subscribers may not be able to retrieve this. lists Show the lists served by this Majordomo server. help Retrieve this message. end Stop processing commands (useful if your mailer adds a signature). Commands should be sent in the body of an email message to "Majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu". Multiple commands can be processed provided each occurs on a separate line. Commands in the "Subject:" line are NOT processed. If you have any questions or problems, please contact "Majordomo-Owner@ces.ncsu.edu". From san@nal.usda.gov Wed Oct 8 00:29:03 1997 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:04:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andy Clark, SAN Coordinator" To: sanet-mg Cc: Sustainable Agriculture Network Subject: More Majordomo Information Sanet: A couple of clarifications about sanet's move from almanac to majordomo: 1) You don't need to do anything if you want to keep receiving sanet-mg messages as you always have. 2) You can only post a message to sanet-mg IF YOU ARE SUBSCRIBED. 3) IF you want the digest of sanet, you will need to unsubscribe from the regular sanet, and subscribe to the digest. The digest collects ALL messages in a 24-hour period and sends them ALL in one message. The one message has a list of all the subject lines, followed by all of the messages -- again, all in that one (VERY LONG) message. You would receive only one e-mail from sanet each day. Here's what the beginning of a digest looks like: ___________________________________________________________________________ sanet-mg-digest Monday, October 6 1997 Volume 01 : Number 006 In this issue: Re: comments on UDSA/NOP cost and benefits to organic farmers and handlers Volunteers Re: comments on UDSA/NOP N.E. Regional CSA Conference organic labelling Re: comments on UDSA/NOP cost and benefits to organic farmers and handlers Re: comments on UDSA/NOP cost and benefits to organic farmers and handlers LIVING SNOW FENCE SYMPOSIUM September-October 1997 CSAS Newsletter ________________________________________________________________________ Then, each of the 9 messages in the Oct. 6 digest would follow. Please contact me directly if you have questions. Andy Clark, Ph.D. SAN Coordinator c/o AFSIC, Room 304 National Agricultural Library 10301 Baltimore Ave. Beltsville, MD 20705-2351 PH: 301-504-6425 FAX: 301-504-6409 san@nal.usda.gov http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/san/ To Unsubscribe: Email majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu with "unsubscribe sanet-mg". To Subscribe to Digest: Email majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu with the command "subscribe sanet-mg-digest". =============================================================================
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