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RE: [nafex] urine info and harvest report
If I'm
not mistaken, you usually see the brown/yellow spots in the lawn during the
summer time from dog urine. Most dog food has a high amount of protein in
it, and when broken down inside the body, produces the high level of N.
During the summer time when the dogs become a bit dehydrated, the concentration
of the N in the urine increases significantly, leading to the "burnouts" in the
lawn. The remedy for this is to make sure the dog is given enough water,
and soak the area of the brown spots in the lawn with water.
Kind
of a busy harvest time right now. I'm picking my Ginger Gold apples,
harvesting my Heritage rasperries, and sampling some of my white "seedless"
grapes. Need to hurry and get the fall crops in the ground if I'm expected
to harvest anything later. I wish that stores like Wal-Mart, etc... would
still provide the seeds for these crops during this time of year. I
constantly forget to buy extra in the Spring and I wind up not having anything
to plant for the fall.
Brian
Sheridan, IN (north of Indy)
Well, I've loaned out my "Humanure Handbook"
which deals with this whole
subject. But I believe that fresh urine
is pretty well balanced with N, K
and P, and also contains most trace
elements. There are changes as it ages,
but I don't know what they
are, except that the N escapes as a gas as urine
ages. The ammonia
smell is part of that.
I've been using it for about 13 years now and
learning as I go. I dilute it
50% most of the time for soil that is
reasonably moist. If soil quite wet,
I use it 75% or even 100% in
spring before rapid growth. I've noticed the
brown spots where dogs
urinate - but haven't studied up on dog urine - I
expect each creature has
differences in its urine. But in all the years
I've used human urine
(and I learned to do this from my grandfather 60 years
ago, who had a
beautiful garden), I've rarely had problems. The problems
have been
with seedlings that were only in second leaf - where I used 50%
urine and
burned them.
I did have a problem with cherry tomatoes
this year. Tried just one
little fertilization with urine at 50% when
they were about 1 ft. high, and
they put on too much to leaf. They're
about 8 ft. high and producing well,
but I would rather keep the plants
smaller.
I've used urine exclusively - the only
fertilizer - on my citrus for the
past 3 years and the plants show no
chlorosis, have deep green foliage, and
have set and ripened delicious
fruits. This year I upped the urine dosage
to every 3 weeks during
summer, and have more flowers and fruit than ever.
Now,
I'm not saying that urine would do as well for any plant. But we
have
used it in the orchard on mayhaw, chestnut, brambles and some other
plants
with good results, and no deaths.
Hector Black
zone 6, middle TN
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Olenio
<tolenio@sentex.net>
To: <nafex@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sunday, August 12, 2001 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nafex] urine
>
Hi,
>
> This thread has come up before.
>
> There is
so little urea in urine that you would need gallons and gallons
> and
gallons, before it would do any good.
>
> My guess is that the
acidity/salt would kill the plant before any
> fertilzer value was
achieved.
>
> Have you ever seen the results of dog marking his
territory with
> urine, using a plant? Always seen to do vast
amounts of harm.
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
>
--
> Thomas Olenio
> Ontario, Hardiness Zone 6a
>
> On
Sun, 12 Aug 2001 ddavidson@mwci.net wrote:
>
> > Hi,
wondering,what is the fertilizing value of urine? How much is
>
> too much, etc.? Dennis
> >
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