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Re: [nafex] Beating the dead horse (ATTENTION NAFEX BOARD)



Dear Greg & the rest of the board:
    I just want to repeat that I don't WANT to leave the NAFEX list, but I
am fed up with not being able to do anything about my Yahoogroups
membership.  The spam is getting worse all the time, to the extent that I
get stuff that isn't even in English now.  It may be too late to do much,
but if I can't fix the membership, the only thing left seems to be to leave
Yahoo.  I don't WANT to cause a fuss, which is why I tried to find a new
home for the list that would be agreeable to everyone.  I think I found a
good place, but if the list won't go there, what is left ?
-Lon Rombough

on 4/22/02 4:13 PM, Greg Miller at gsmiller@cet.com wrote:

> This Yahoogroups issue is obviously not going to die.  Even though it is
> difficult to 
> discern from a smattering of responses, there obviously is divided opinion on
> what to 
> do.  I think the issues have been clearly spelled out, so I will put it to the
> NAFEX 
> Board of Directors to resolve the issue, since their input has always been the
> final 
> word in my mind.  (MOVE?  POLL? etc)
> 
> This is not the first time someone has been outraged about characterstics of
> the list 
> that had very little to do with the actual content.  Several years ago one of
> the major 
> contributors quit over the issue of making this list open to non-members of
> NAFEX.  
> It was a loss to see him go, but everyone has to choose for themselves the
> terms 
> under which they participate.  Lon has indeed been a major contributor, and
> his 
> departure in whatever form would be a loss.  I hope in the strongest way that
> he 
> continues with the list in whatever form it takes.
> 
> Although there was a time when I was willing (and did over the course of the
> first few 
> years) forward thousands of messages individually to list members, but the
> technology has progressed to the point where my participation is pretty minor.
> Miekal And and Tom Olenio have both offered suggestions in the past that when
> implemented, improved the operation of the list.  Most of what I offer
> currently is 
> benign oversight, like not screening each message, not bouncing subscribers,
> etc., 
> even though the listowner has those options.  That also includes not moving
> the list 
> around willy-nilly.  As corny as it might sound, the main thing I bring as an
> administrator is keeping things free and open, but I am sure there are others
> that 
> could continue that standard while improving service.
> 
> I don't have any illusions about the success of the list being conditional
> upon my 
> involvement, and from the initial description it sounds like moving to another
> site 
> might offer some advantages.  I don't sense any axes to grind in moving to the
> university list mentioned in prior posts, and although I don't belong to any
> of the 
> other lists mentioned, it sounds like the administration has been good.
> Provided a 
> list can be maintained that is stable, has no cost, and answers to the NAFEX
> board, 
> it might very well be worth trying.
> 
> I'm not taking my ball and going home; I'm not tossing in the ball and
> stomping 
> away.  I'll continue to stay regardless of who runs things.  But I *am*
> leaving it up to 
> the umpire (NAFEX board) to declare the field of play.
> 
> Hopefully that will resolve the issue.  (For the next two weeks at least!)
> 
> Greg Miller
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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