Ray - I'd love to hear more about your experience
with potatoes as that comes in. I'm not sure why someone would steer you
away from fish products, you should ask them what the problem is. It is
certainly listed on recipes from Soil Foodweb. Are you testing your
teas? The highest fungal numbers I have gotten in a tea came from
pretreating 16 ounces of a woody compost with 2 ounces of fish hydrolysate
for three days at 80*F. It was covered with fungi by the time I added it
and the analysis showed it was in the 3um category of beneficial sized
fungi.
I'd be interested to hear why someone doesn't want
fish products in a tea, the only situation I'm aware of is that fish
emulsion is a bacterial food as opposed to fish hydrolysate which is a fungal
food.
Dave
David A. Loring, Project Leader Southeast Asia Project Dietrick
Institute for Applied Insect Ecology dloring3@cox.net ph (760)
489-9438
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Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:08
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Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Re; Why
activate the compost?
Thx David, To be clear I have been using
the AK Humus product in our EPM 500 and Modified Growing Solutions 500
and our 35g homebuilt. After I remove the Humus/vermi mix I reintroduce
it to the plastic containers I keep the base products in and add fresh
vermi as well. I have tried different things including low sodium soy
that grows something, what I have no idea. On the potato
comments on this site I have to add that I have heard some negative as well
as positive results from different customers of mine that have used
other peoples tea. The negative reactions have come from customers of a
vendor that uses the most popular tea machine mfgr. I have heard that he
might be having problems with his vermi. I have talked with
Jason Kimm so anyone that wants basic info I can relay what he told me.
Also Reggie Destrie has given me some excellent recomendations
on potatoes that one of my organic customers is trying. The conflict
that I am working on is that I have been told by the mfr not to add fish
products or anything else to my brews. I have been working with Lance
Funk here in Idaho who has EPM brewers and hooked him up with the Fort
Hall Reservation potato fields so I may have more potato info later this
season for those interested. --- David Loring <dloring3@cox.net>
wrote: > Ray - I have found that fish hydrolysate grows fungi > on
almonst anything . . . anything that is that > still has enough
undecomposed material for fungi to > grow on. If what you have is
really humus that > means, by definition, it has already been worked
on > by fungi and bacteria and may not support much more >
growth. You might try mixing a little woody > material 1:4 to
provide foods for the fungi in your > humus to grow on. >
> David A. Loring, Project Leader > Southeast Asia
Project > Dietrick Institute for Applied Insect Ecology >
dloring3@cox.net ph (760) 489-9438 > ----- Original
Message ----- > From: ray gore > To:
compost_tea@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003
11:43 AM > Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Re; Why activate
the > compost? > > >
Jeff, > Since I bought the AK Humus
I have tried all > kinds > of different things to grow
fungi levels and > reinoculate it after use. Any
suggestions? Most > recently I have been adding vermicompost
with it > then > again after use. Thx, Ray MVC
Idaho > --- Jeff Lowenfels <jeff@gardener.com>
wrote: > > Judi, you could activate will all sorts
of > stuff. My > > research, however, shows that
the medical and > other > > communities that grow
soil fungi use Oatmeal > > products in the lab along with
agar because > oatmeal > > selects for soil fungi.
For what it is worth, > corn > > meal was number
two. > > > > In addition, while it
looks like you are only > > growing one type of fungi
because it looks > uniform, > > these fungi look a
like and you are most > probably > > growing lots
of kinds. > > > >
Cheers, > > > > Jeff >
> >
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