For a good article on manure tea, see:
In 'Bama they used to drink it:
Is 'manure tea' when made from properly composted
manure a problem? Methinks not....
Is 'manure tea' made from heated, dried manure a
problem? Again, methinks not...
Would manure tea, made from fresh manure and
applied to raw salad crops, be a problem? Yes indeedy....
Would compost tea, made with inadequately composted
manure, in an inadequately aerated brewer with nutrients added, and applied to
salad ingredients, be a problem? Might well be.....
So do we need QA/QC protocols for making compost
tea for application to raw consumption crops? Yes, that seems
reasonable....avoidance of inadequately composted manure would be
sensible....
Do we need to kill all the birds so they never
crap on our crops?
That would be a fecophobic 'Silent Spring' scenario
too monstrous to contemplate....
Does anyone know why the dawn chorus birdie likes
to start under my window at 4:30 AM this time of year??
;-)
Frank---likes birds, but wishes his own little wild
alarm clock feathered friend would start sleeping later again...
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:23
AM
Subject: RE: [compost_tea] Re: Soak in a
Bucket CT NO NO NO
Mike and Kirk - Your treatment of "Manure in a bucket tea"
does not consider the potential danger to the entire Aerobic
compost TEA development.
Scenario - church pot luck serves a great salad. x
members subcome to E-coli. E-Coli takes a kids life and another kids
liver. Gardener is suspect cause. E-coli is taced to
"Compost TEA" that was used to water the lettuce. Is the press
going to clearly explain the exact nature of the compost tea and that it is
one kind or another and if they did, would the publice carry the message to
the market place and select AIR BREWED COMPOST TEA treated produce to buy
? ( ABCT)
Not likely. 10 years of Elaines work is down the tube. My
brewers would never get sold. Good Bye friends of this list. We are
history
After your messages I realize the most important thing we must do is
fight like hell to eliminate all use of and association of compost tea from
anarobic liquid products Inspite of mixed results for eons it is a
hazard that needs to go away. Aeration is not
expensive. What is called TEA is on the shelf at reputable
nurseries. Sealed in bottles. The high profit product of a
giant municiple composting company. Is there any test data to
prove it has value, is alive and is safe? Further we need to
improve assurance that what is being brewed by all of us and our
customers and farmers are truely aerobic.
If we allow the easy acceptance of hazargous or ineffective products to
be on the market or brewed at home and called by a common name - CT - we risk
the entire program. The better health. The conservation of soil
and the land. The rivers and lakes. The ecology. The
improved farms. The strawberrys, bananas,the oaks and palm trees.
When compost tea includes a broad range of liquids some of which
can be hazardous then the USDA has no choice but to say treat it
like raw manure. .
And you guys? I guess they would be hiring at Montasanto.
From your resume you could leave out any mention of your work with
ABCT. Bob
PS I hope I have worded this in a way to start some useful
thought. Kirk and Mike, you have devoted much to this
list. I respect you. I was reading your messages calmly but
thought after.---- Having a common look alike name and really very
similar looking liquid, one of which can be hazardous is a problem that could
take a big bite from every ass in this program. Government
agencies are obligated to eliminate this risk. A broad ban on
CT will reduce our already micro
freeboard Wonderful as ABCT is, watching Elaine and others in
this program, I know this is program is still on a hill, pushing
hard, up. Jeff and Wayne have moved Anchorage to the point
that it is locally on a level, well accepted CT is being
used and paid for at true value. It makes the CT business
possible. I think there is a lesson there. Get it right,
then In word, PREVAIL Bob
Mike Bosko <mjbosko@jmtsystems.com>
wrote:
Mike
recalls "Rodale's Organic Gardening Magazine...always speaking of
the 'soak in
the bucket' (anaerobic) method." Are you surprised? He
thinks this is
bad. I don't.
Hey
Kirk, chill.
I
don?t recall saying anything about it being ?bad?. It is
anaerobic, is it not? Never
said that was bad tho ? just that it is what is often preached in the
magazine. I believe I said
something to the matter of suggesting someone write an article regarding
AACT; The actively aerated alternative. Adding food to the compost tea,
aerating it to help grow even more anaerobic microbes ? In my opinion it
does seem to be the better alternative ?you get more good stuff, from the
same bucket.
I read the magazine, and still practice
the bucket method, but was excited to hear about growing even more ?good
stuff? in the tea using the AACT methods. I truly think that the readers of OG
would be very interested in learning about AACT as an alternative to the
?bucket tea? that I had mentioned.
Did you happen to read further into my
message? I question
everything. I try to make a
stand for the common guy out here, not wanting to spend a bunch of cash on
making teas, wanting it to researched to make it more simple and then, in
turn, to get it in use more often.
That goes for Compost-anything.
-Mike
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