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Re: [compost_tea] Re: no-till farming



Hi Bob

Will you be able to post that article on the list?  It will be interesting to see.

I have been using both folia sprays and soil drenches.  My take on it was that the foliar sprays gave more immediate benefits; supposely some trees will show a response in as little as two hours, but that the soil drench give slower but more long term results.  (Of course this depends on what you are applying.)  I believe also that it is recommended not to appply a foliar spray when plants are stressed.

Jason

Robert Norsen wrote:
Hi Dennis - what you need is a BobOLator  GRIN!  Sorry Jeff, We ARE writting about ACT.  I read that article again today at the office.  It said up to 20 x more efficient and it was in a paper called  ACRES.  I will try to send you the  exact source tomorrow from my office. 

I can imagine how your farm is driving you microbes with all that going on.  Can ACT fix all that?  Maybe improve on it a little at a time until ( we hope ) it gets much better.  Bob.      

dkemnitz2000 <dkemnitz2000@yhoo.com> wrote:
Hello, Bob of "I read it so many times I can't remember it now",
Dennis



--- In compost_tea@yahoogroups.com, Robert Norsen <bnbrew@y...> wrote:
> Somewhere on the web I read of  research that reported foliar
fertilizer was 8 to 12 times more efficient that soil - root
fertilizers.



what is foliar fertilizer? ACT with additives? Or is it ACT diluted
ten-fold? I'm guessing it depends.Dennis





> If you use Dr E's example of  5% of the normal fertiizers are
required when compost and ACT are used then multiply that by  say 6
time the efficiency just math says foliar would need 1% of the
fertilizers normally suggested by Monsanto etc.. 

> Please don't plant a 1000 acres based on tha SWAG.  But you might
do well to carry on the research yourself, trying to approach thot as
a goal but proving it on small test areas of your larger fields.  
Then  your report to us - OK ?  Bob
>

Here's the first report: I have approx. 10 Acres of milo which has
too many pigweeds and velvet weeds, and approx 3 A alfalfa with too
much foxtail and wild lettuce, and approx 1A of melons and squash
with too many cucumber beetles, squash bugs, pigweeds and  mexican
sandburrs, and around 10 A the milk cow and 2 Year old bull calf are
grazing indigenous plants/weeds (wild oats, wild lettuce and pigweeds)
with some weeds they aren't eating. And I insist on using no
pesticides, herbicides and NPK fertilizers and have been discing
mostly and plowing a little. I'm thinking of using the V-blade on the
hard land the cattle are grazing so I won't mess up the micro and
macro arthropods,worms and centipedes and oxygen concentration cause
I want to plant alfalfa and brome this fall.  ACT must be a natural
at this farm, with some "extras" added to set soil foodweb in action.
Dennis






> dkemnitz2000 <dkemnitz2000@y...> wrote:
> --- How about adding  micros(nutrients) with foliar ACT if
necessary
> and macros by injection? I'm  thinking the first year the ACT will
> have to be foliar fed many times. Then I'll need an injector which
> doesn't upset soil foodweb.   Dennis
>
>
>
>
> In compost_tea@yahoogroups.com, "J Peter Young" <peter@b...> wrote:
> > ACT alone contain very, very little nutrients. If you add enough
to
> make a
> > difference - then it's fertilizer.
> > 
> > Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Norsen [mailto:bnbrew@y...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:05 AM
> > To: compost_tea@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [compost_tea] no-till farming
> <><><<<><clipped by Dennis<><><><><><><><>



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