[compost_tea] Re: Compost vs Liquid Compost Extract application

From: mikethewormguy <mikethewormguy_at_aol.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:01:49 -0000



Stephen,

I am assuming that I am not the first person looking to do this type of com=
parison, for an farming application.

I am looking to see who has trialed a compost application vs LCE applicatio=
n in a side by side comparison on an acreage scale.

Assuming that I find some folks, on this list, that have done such a trial =
then we can get into more detail.

Mike Flynn
Green Quest LLC
BioSpecific LLC










--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Steyn" <ssteyn_at_...> wrote:
>
> Tim;
>
> Another option would be to band place the compost in the row if it is a
> vineyard or row crop.
>
> As far as the experiment goes, I would assume that the compost would easi=
ly
> outperform the LCE since it contains more nutrients and the compost will
> increase the organic matter content of the soil. If no additional nutriti=
on
> is supplied, and the plot has been cropped prior to this with a cash crop
> rather than a legume or green manure crop...
>
> Maybe you need to give more information before you can expect a meaningfu=
l
> input from us.
>
> SS
>
>
>
> From: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Tim Wilson
> Sent: 30 January 2011 18:39
> To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [compost_tea] Re: Compost vs Liquid Compost Extract application
>
>
>
>
>
> Interesting that the farmer should choose such a slight amount. Perhaps h=
e
> is new to using compost. What is he growing?
>
> Tim
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>=
 ,
> "mikethewormguy" <mikethewormguy_at_> wrote:
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > To give you some background.....the 4 ton compost application figure is
> the application amount required by the land owner to be applied by the
> farmer using their land. So we did not choose the 4 ton compost rate.
> >
> > My goal is to provide an alternative, via LCE, to the 4 ton/acre compos=
t
> application.
> >
> > Later in the year we will be doing some further trials using microbiall=
y
> enriched wood charcoal (i.e. biochar) in combination with LCE as an
> alternative to compost application. For now we are starting with LCE.
> >
> > There is no right or wrong approach, only the one that works.....
> >
> >
> > Mike Flynn
> > Green Quest LLC
> > BioSpecific LLC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com> , "mikethewormguy" <mikethewormguy=
_at_>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We are in the process of setting up an agricultural trial comparing
> the application of compost vs liquid compost extract. The trial will take
> place this spring in California. The size of the trial will be on an acer=
age
> scale.
> > > >
> > > > My hypothesis is : " Liquid Compost Extract application will be equ=
al
> to or better than a Compost application based upon plant response "
> > > >
> > > > At this time, we are looking at applying 4 tons of a commercially
> available dairy manure based compost per acre vs 50 gallons of liquid
> compost extract, per acre (LCE). The LCE will be made from a variety of
> compost and vermicompost types. Both these applications will be done 45 d=
ays
> prior to seeding.
> > > >
> > > > I am purposely using the different compost types for LCE because I
> can. One of the strengths of making liquid compost extracts is that you c=
an
> make small amounts of specialty compost(s) and vermicompost specifically =
for
> making LCE.
> > > >
> > > > In regard to data collection, we are going to let the plants/crop
> tells us which application they like best. As far as I know, plants alway=
s
> tell the truth, as well as, this is what the farmer is interested in.
> > > >
> > > > In addition, we are looking at the total cost of the compost
> application vs the total cost of LCE application.
> > > >
> > > > Keep in mind that the LCE feedstock preparation and the extraction
> process is being done onsite, at the farmer's location vs trucking in
> compost from another location.
> > > >
> > > > We are not necessarily trying to reduce the farmer's costs but prov=
ide
> them more value. Value is defined by the farmer but produced by us.
> > > >
> > > > I would be interested in hearing from the list concerning other's
> experience with comparing compost vs liquid compost extract applications.
> > > >
> > > > I look forward to your collective input and feedback.......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Flynn
> > > > Green Quest LLC
> > > > BioSpecific LLC
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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