Re: [compost_tea] Re: Compost vs Liquid Compost Extract application
I think LCE vs AACT would be a better trial.
Matt
On Jan 31, 2011, at 9:07 PM, JB wrote:
> Sorry, but I don't see this as being a compost vs LCE test as much
> as a LCE vs nothing test. I sure hope the LCE wins.
>
> As Tim said, 4 tons of compost spread over a acre is like 1/32 of a
> inch of compost. Basically useless as far as expecting any
> noticeable plant response from it.
>
> If you're trying to compare compost to LCE? You need to use the same
> inputs (compost) to test different methods & get any credible results.
>
> It would be like me testing AACT machines against LCE machines with
> LCE machine using cheap dead commercial compost & the AACT machine
> using homemade black gold compost, high quality worm castings &
> creek water. The AACT machine would show better results. Would this
> prove that the AACT machine is better? Swap inputs & the LCE machine
> would look better.
>
> Thanks for forewarning me about Cow Wow. I'm pretty good at not
> laughing at salesman. But going to a trade show & having some
> salesman claim that a quart of his extract is equal to 5 yards (135
> cubic feet) of compost would have put me in tears.
>
> Good luck with the farm.
>
> John Bridges
> Bridges Native Plants
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "mikethewormguy"
> <mikethewormguy_at_...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We are in the process of setting up an agricultural trial
> comparing the application of compost vs liquid compost extract. The
> trial will take place this spring in California. The size of the
> trial will be on an acerage scale.
> >
> > My hypothesis is : " Liquid Compost Extract application will be
> equal to or better than a Compost application based upon plant
> response "
> >
> > At this time, we are looking at applying 4 tons of a commercially
> available dairy manure based compost per acre vs 50 gallons of
> liquid compost extract, per acre (LCE). The LCE will be made from a
> variety of compost and vermicompost types. Both these applications
> will be done 45 days prior to seeding.
> >
> > I am purposely using the different compost types for LCE because I
> can. One of the strengths of making liquid compost extracts is that
> you can make small amounts of specialty compost(s) and vermicompost
> specifically for making LCE.
> >
> > In regard to data collection, we are going to let the plants/crop
> tells us which application they like best. As far as I know, plants
> always tell the truth, as well as, this is what the farmer is
> interested in.
> >
> > In addition, we are looking at the total cost of the compost
> application vs the total cost of LCE application.
> >
> > Keep in mind that the LCE feedstock preparation and the extraction
> process is being done onsite, at the farmer's location vs trucking
> in compost from another location.
> >
> > We are not necessarily trying to reduce the farmer's costs but
> provide them more value. Value is defined by the farmer but produced
> by us.
> >
> > I would be interested in hearing from the list concerning other's
> experience with comparing compost vs liquid compost extract
> applications.
> >
> > I look forward to your collective input and feedback.......
> >
> >
> > Mike Flynn
> > Green Quest LLC
> > BioSpecific LLC
> >
>
>
>
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