[compost_tea] Re: Best Environmental Technologies?
Well the testimonials and data on their webpage does not say much. Most of =
these formulations are a joke in my opinion anyway.
Tim
--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "mikethewormguy" <mikethewormguy_at_...> w=
rote:
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> Are we now determining the quality of a soil amendment (i.e. TM21) based =
on educated guessing ?
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> Do we want others to apply the seeming 'guessing' standard to ACT or LCE =
?
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> For the product formulators on this list, my sense is that none of us wou=
ld want our product judged based upon even 'educated' guessing and opinion.
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> As Elaine would say.... " Where's the data " " Show me the data "
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> Pardon if I sound a little sensitive, but being a cook with a lab coat wh=
o makes stuff, the is alot of great stuff that can be formulated into a 'th=
in black liquid".
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> Mike Flynn
> Green Quest LLC
> BioSpecific LLC
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Tim Wilson" <thegoodjob_at_> wrote:
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> > I was going to say; sounds like molasses before anyone mentioned this. =
Why pay for watered down molasses?
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> > Tim
> >
> > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "jwoenne" <jrrwoenne_at_> wrote:
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> > > Julie,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the feedback.
> > >
> > > I agree entirely. I also suspect it some kind of mix of molasses/humi=
c acid/fulvic acid/liquid kelp.
> > >
> > > I tried it a few years ago without any visible benefit. I suspect it =
gives visible benefit with soils that have been hammered by poor farming pr=
actices, i.e., compacted soils with struggling microbiology. But if your so=
ils are pretty good to start, then there is little benefit.
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "firth_julie" <yilgarn_at_> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi James,
> > > > I live in Geraldton, Western Australia and went to a tm21 best semi=
nar a year or so ago and I asked Martin Straper (the presenter and ex csiro=
scientist) what was in it and he said " no micro-organisms, just food to s=
timulate them." The product is a black thin liquid, my guess is it possibly=
a mix of fulvic acid, molasses, kelp etc...
> > > > The actual ingredients are their trade secrets I suppose, otherwise=
who would buy it when we can make our own..and they have to pay for their =
product, research, marketing etc.. somehow.
> > > >
> > > > Whether it is produces any better results than a liquid bact/and or=
fungal food mix to your soil is something you would have to trial.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards
> > > > Julie Firth
> > > > Drylands Permaculture Research Farm
> > > >
> > >
> >
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