[compost_tea] Re: Best Environmental Technologies?
Absolutely, that is no secret. That is why we have papers written by people=
like Marianne Clarholm, Michael Bonkowski, Bryan Griffiths, Vigdis Torsvik=
and microscopes.
Tim
Dhp (density hath posterity)
--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "mikethewormguy" <mikethewormguy_at_...> w=
rote:
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> Tim, I have a sense that there is some folks out there that would say the=
same of Activated Compost Tea or Liquid Compost Extract liquids.
>
> Mike Flynn
> Green Quest LLC
> BioSpecific LLC
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Tim Wilson" <thegoodjob_at_> wrote:
> >
> > Well the testimonials and data on their webpage does not say much. Most=
of these formulations are a joke in my opinion anyway.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "mikethewormguy" <mikethewormguy_at_> =
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Are we now determining the quality of a soil amendment (i.e. TM21) ba=
sed on educated guessing ?
> > >
> > > Do we want others to apply the seeming 'guessing' standard to ACT or =
LCE ?
> > >
> > > For the product formulators on this list, my sense is that none of us=
would want our product judged based upon even 'educated' guessing and opin=
ion.
> > >
> > > As Elaine would say.... " Where's the data " " Show me the data "
> > >
> > > Pardon if I sound a little sensitive, but being a cook with a lab coa=
t who makes stuff, the is alot of great stuff that can be formulated into a=
'thin black liquid".
> > >
> > > Mike Flynn
> > > Green Quest LLC
> > > BioSpecific LLC
> > >
> > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Tim Wilson" <thegoodjob_at_> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was going to say; sounds like molasses before anyone mentioned th=
is. Why pay for watered down molasses?
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "jwoenne" <jrrwoenne_at_> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Julie,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the feedback.
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree entirely. I also suspect it some kind of mix of molasses/=
humic acid/fulvic acid/liquid kelp.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried it a few years ago without any visible benefit. I suspect=
it gives visible benefit with soils that have been hammered by poor farmin=
g practices, i.e., compacted soils with struggling microbiology. But if you=
r soils are pretty good to start, then there is little benefit.
> > > > >
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "firth_julie" <yilgarn_at_> wrot=
e:
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi James,
> > > > > > I live in Geraldton, Western Australia and went to a tm21 best =
seminar a year or so ago and I asked Martin Straper (the presenter and ex c=
siro scientist) what was in it and he said " no micro-organisms, just food =
to stimulate them." The product is a black thin liquid, my guess is it poss=
ibly a mix of fulvic acid, molasses, kelp etc...
> > > > > > The actual ingredients are their trade secrets I suppose, other=
wise who would buy it when we can make our own..and they have to pay for th=
eir product, research, marketing etc.. somehow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whether it is produces any better results than a liquid bact/an=
d or fungal food mix to your soil is something you would have to trial.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind regards
> > > > > > Julie Firth
> > > > > > Drylands Permaculture Research Farm
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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