RE: [compost_tea] Herbicide Over Spray Damage

From: Carl Brodeur <cbrodeur1_at_comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:22:41 -0400

I'm not sure Sally. I guess if it isn't good enough for me why would it be
ok for wildlife, Hmm. I really don't know the level of impact. Small amounts
may have a bigger impact on small species of wildlife, but how on earth can
you protect them? Do you think you could hand pick all of that? Them what?

 

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From: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sally Norton
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 10:46 PM
To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Herbicide Over Spray Damage

 

Hi Carl,
Thanks for taking the time to offer this excellent suggestion.
I have looked at the site, found names, and emailed 3 local arborists. One
of them teaches classes at our botanical gardens in Richmond. I took his
pruning class in March of 2009. I will let you know if any one is able to
offer help and referrals.
Do you think that we should remove the berries (mulberries, blueberries,
strawberries, currents, figs etc) so that the birds will not consume them
either? I worry about the wildlife. I never want my fruits to deliver
poison. I am not sure how much compost tea I can apply as we will be
traveling for several weeks in May...

I took a quick tour of your website - nice.

Sally
Richmond VA

On 5/1/2011 9:08 AM, Carl Brodeur wrote:

  

Sally,

 

I have been a consulting arborist for over 20 years. My experience is that
lawyers know very little about this and rely on consulting experts. I have
handled several cases with pesticide damage. It will require a great deal of
research on the consultants part to educate the attorney. The consultant
would be the one to gain all the info concerning the laws of the state and
the data on the pesticides. I live in Ma. and we have strict regulations on
spraying. Every application done in the field has to have the date, time,
and weather conditions for the application. We have to record the EPA reg. #
of the products used. The applicator has to sign and write his pesticide
license # on the form. The total amount of product used and the way it was
applied i.e. hand pump sprayer, hydraulically applied, Back-pack sprayer
etc. That is where you start.

 

I would go to the web site for the American Society of Consulting Arborist
http://www.asca-consultants.org/ and find an arborist in your area and give
him a call. Arborists work with all these products so they are familiar with
them and the laws governing their use. I have taken courses with ASCA and
they have attorneys come in and train expert witnesses. Some of these
lawyers are arborists. If you can find one of them to have a discussion that
would be a huge benefit but they are few, hard to find and will cost a lot
of $$.

As this subject is not really pertinent to the discussion of Actively
Aerated Compost Tea you can contact me directly if you want to further the
discussion.

I completely agree with the advice that has been given to help mitigate the
herbicide damage. Lots of water and lots of Tea. On a personal note I would
not eat any of the crop at all.

 

Regards,

Carl

 

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From: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 1:22 AM
To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Herbicide Over Spray Damage

 

  

My best guess would be to talk to lawyers in your area and see if there is
someone with that experience. You really should be able to talk to a
regulatory agency about this as well, maybe they even know a lawyer. I would
assume the department of ag in your state would at least have some info.

 

On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Sally Norton wrote:






Does anyone know how to find an experienced lawyer in the area of pesticide
drift damage?

Sally

On 4/28/2011 12:58 PM, Robert wrote:

 

The only thing you can do is apply compost,tea, and any thing else that
would help your plants recover faster assuming they arent dead. But don't
just treat the symptoms. You need to address the real problem here. What is
being done to compensate you for this chemical trespass? If the guilty party
is not cooperative I would involve the authorities or get an experienced
lawyer. This is not cool! Sorry for your damage!

 

 

On Apr 28, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Sally Norton wrote:






Last week I discovered a widespread plant "illness" in my 100% Organic
yard-garden diagnosed by the Extension Horticulturist as pesticide over
spray. I confirmed that the adjacent downwind property was treated last week
with a liquid "Speed Zone" brand by Gordon's. The MSDS can be seen at this
address:
http://www.pbigordon.com/pdfs/SpeedZone-MSDS.pdf.
In addition to the plants low to the ground (tomatoes, lettuce, herbs,
collards, roses, etc, trees, vines, and tall bushes that are 5 -15 feet off
the ground show definite damage. You can almost envision the currents of air
carrying the 2,4,D and other compounds of the Speed Zone across my property.
I was so hoping that my kiwi vine would finally bloom and fruit this year
which will be its 5th year in my yard. Will these chemicals impact the
blooming and fruiting of a kiwi or the pomegranate bush which is showing a
lot of damage in all the growing tips? The dwarf weeping mulberry already
set its fruits, but the leaves look terrible.
I take great pride in the health of my plants and the attractiveness of the
plantings, so I am having a very hard time with so much plant material
looking stressed and damaged.
Suggestions??

 

 

 

 

 





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